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PostPosted: Sat 16 Dec, 2017 9:53 pm 
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PF #Warning you've now breached SH's Guardian linked proportionality.


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I can't help myself -

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Brexit thinktank in dispute over use of ‘institute’ in title
Companies House says Institute for Free Trade hadn’t asked permission (Guardian)


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PostPosted: Sat 16 Dec, 2017 9:59 pm 
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Barbara Castle kept popping up wanting more money spent on the main state pension. Cameron took that one on. I'm only glad it took till 2015 to go down that route, or else we'd be heading for Southern European public finances.

Yes, I know most pensioners aren't rich.



It is the other goodies (NI in particular) that is the problem.


Did Castle suggest reforming that? I thought it was just increasing the standard pension, a la Cameron.


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PostPosted: Sat 16 Dec, 2017 10:21 pm 
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@Tubby wasn't a dig to be clear,the SMI changes were originally predicated on naturally reduced pensioner numbers on assumed better incomes, the trend in reverse,has turned out to be the case "benefits",is only one part,my schtick is sensible investment which benefits play a crucial part subject to circumstances.I still muse whether a change in terminology,way of paying,through different budgets to account for costs,however the recent musings about abolishing AA in effect discretionalising accepted extra costs suggests the tide is against me.


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The Indy now reporting the 10 point remain lead

Brexit: Britons now back Remain over Leave by 10 points, exclusive poll shows
Exclusive: The newly published survey gives Remainers their biggest lead since the 2016 referendum

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 14406.html


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PostPosted: Sat 16 Dec, 2017 10:32 pm 
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My previous post is rather cryptic,it made sense in my head,on transfer seemed to be the problem.I think the answer has ten letters and ends in a "y".


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PostPosted: Sat 16 Dec, 2017 10:33 pm 
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Too cleverly written rather than "badly",of course.


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Thread from hateful little man - but worth a read, he is really bricking it over the mess he's played a major part in making

Pete North - PBFY‏
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1. So, leavers, here's what's going to happen. The penny will drop with Brexiter MPs that the transition is continuity membership for two or more years with no voting rights. They'll stamp their feet and demand concessions but eventually realise they have no choice in the matter

https://twitter.com/PeteNorth303/status ... 2404369408


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Thread from hateful little man - but worth a read, he is really bricking it over the mess he's played a major part in making

Pete North - PBFY‏
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1. So, leavers, here's what's going to happen. The penny will drop with Brexiter MPs that the transition is continuity membership for two or more years with no voting rights. They'll stamp their feet and demand concessions but eventually realise they have no choice in the matter

https://twitter.com/PeteNorth303/status ... 2404369408

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Replying to @PeteNorth303

.@PeteNorth303 is so funny - he's a fervent leaver who writes well researched & thought through tweets on pitfalls/possibilities/limits/consequences of Brexit and he - inadvertently - keeps making a MASSIVE ARGUMENT TO REMAIN. Timeandtimeagain. Hahahahahaha


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The family that doesn't feel pain

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-42322225


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Call off Brexit bullies or face defeat, Tory peers tell Theresa May
Conservatives in House of Lords warn prime minister party rebellion ‘will spread’ if the whips keep using strong-arm tactics

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Hindle, didn't read as a dig! I'd agree too with spending more on what you say there.


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Everything The Sun didn’t tell you when shaming a mum for buying Christmas presents
The tabloid has run a story criticising a mother on benefits for spending money on her children.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/w ... s-presents


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Call off Brexit bullies or face defeat, Tory peers tell Theresa May
Conservatives in House of Lords warn prime minister party rebellion ‘will spread’ if the whips keep using strong-arm tactics

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... heresa-may

I just saw this


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Outnumbered, defeated … where next for the diehard Brexiters?
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Anti-Ostrich #FBPE‏
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My mother-in-law voted for #Brexit after watching this bogus 'NHS' campaign.
...She also thought Jeremy Corbyn was Theresa May's husband.
Is this the 'will of the people'?

The video is sick making if you can stand to watch it. I knew Vote Leave were bad, but not this bad. No wonder the vote went to out if this is what bots were pushing daily on FB & twitter.

https://twitter.com/anti_ostrich/status ... 8302080000


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I can completely understand people getting confused
We're bombarded with so much crap


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It's stollen.

https://twitter.com/DadJokeMan/status/9 ... 2742176769

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Goodnight, everyone
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https://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2017 ... ation.html


The politicisation of immigration


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(Can't find earlier)

09 July 1970
Mr. Skinner asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how much he intends to spend on advertising through Press and television the provisions of the National Insurance Bill; how many people over 80 years of age will be receiving no benefit from the Bill because they are already in receipt of supplementary benefits; and how many will benefit from the provisions of the Bill.
Sir K. Joseph The detailed arrangements and the cost of the necessary advertising are now being worked out. We believe there are about 100,000 potential beneficiaries among the over-eighties. About half are drawing supplementary pensions. Where the supplementary pension is less than the new pension the 101W new pensioner will gain the difference. In general, those who do not come within the scope of the supplementary benefit scheme will benefit"

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/peop ... s-skinner/


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You do have to love the Chutzpan of the members of the Campaign Group

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07 December 1970

"Mr. Skinner asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will call a halt to negotiations for entry into the Common Market, in view of the evidence contained in the Report of the National Institute of Economic and Social Research, a copy of which has been sent to him."


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ChutzpaH,indeed.


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Only a few braving the weather for weekly Tai Chi session in the garden.


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https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... 25s-advice


Centrepoint’s latest helpline offers instant advice to abuse victims and young people who can longer stay in the family home



http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b017n1v9


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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42382002


Defence budget: New equipment at risk over MoD savings 'doubts'

Plans to buy new military equipment - including warships and jets - could be under threat, as MPs expressed "serious doubts" over whether the Ministry of Defence can afford them.

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/c ... /43102.htm


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PF has made various art installations with the empties,unfortunately Constance is now trapped in one of them,curiosity may kill the cat.


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Good morfternoon.

Edited to add -

Constance is unscathed.


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https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... oters-hope


There is hope: Brexit has few zealots and many floating voters
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So, Tom Watson on R5 not ruling out second referendum on terms agreed.
Didn't hear all of it, but that's what I took from the part I did hear.


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HindleA wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/dec/17/brexit-few-zealots-many-floating-voters-hope


There is hope: Brexit has few zealots and many floating voters
William Keegan


An interesting reading of things.


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Well, that last post was a real conversation killer. Not that I've got anything worthwhile, scintillating - or even vaguely amusing - to contribute.


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I'm sure somebody must have something?


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It's stollen.

https://twitter.com/DadJokeMan/status/9 ... 2742176769

Just because, sometime you need a laugh..... :lol:


Bit fancy and CONTINENTAL though.

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From Putney or thereabouts.
One hit wonder then straight back down to earth.

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And this is what its really been all about

"SHACKLES COME OFF British workers set for post-Brexit overtime boom as ministers plot to scrap EU limits
Industries which spend billions on agency staff could save money and families can earn more by working longer hours"

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5156079/b ... eu-limits/

(Sorry about the link)
Wilfully ignoring the fact that you can voluntarily work overtime now if you like, but the working time directive prevents employers forcing you to work longer against your wishes.


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.@vincecable: the problem with my 5 years experience of working with Theresa May was she wasn't very interested in economic matters which makes it hard to place what she wants on [hard/soft Brexit]. She was obsessed with immigration as an issue.

https://twitter.com/LibDemPress/status/ ... 6356826112


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37 Spanish nurses quit hospital amid Brexit fears, claims MP
UNCERTAINTY surrounding Brexit has seen 37 nurses quit their jobs at York Hospital, according to a York MP.

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I'm like a bus really, wait for ages then 3 come along all at once.


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A&E is extremely busy. Patients will be seen in order of clinical priority; those who come to A&E can expect waits of up to 12 hours. Remember there are alternatives - http://ow.ly/8Acp307gxYY #IsA&E4Me

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Good morfternoon.

Edited to add -

Constance is unscathed.
Good-evening, everyone


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.@vincecable: the problem with my 5 years experience of working with Theresa May was she wasn't very interested in economic matters which makes it hard to place what she wants on [hard/soft Brexit]. She was obsessed with immigration as an issue.

https://twitter.com/LibDemPress/status/ ... 6356826112

You wouldn't think so, looking at her record of complete failure at the Home Office.

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And this is what its really been all about

"SHACKLES COME OFF British workers set for post-Brexit overtime boom as ministers plot to scrap EU limits
Industries which spend billions on agency staff could save money and families can earn more by working longer hours"

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5156079/b ... eu-limits/

(Sorry about the link)
Wilfully ignoring the fact that you can voluntarily work overtime now if you like, but the working time directive prevents employers forcing you to work longer against your wishes.


"Overtime boom" - genuinely Goebbelsian.


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.@vincecable: the problem with my 5 years experience of working with Theresa May was she wasn't very interested in economic matters which makes it hard to place what she wants on [hard/soft Brexit]. She was obsessed with immigration as an issue.

https://twitter.com/LibDemPress/status/ ... 6356826112
You wouldn't think so, looking at her record of complete failure at the Home Office.
It was May implementing mandatory minimum income, housing and private health care insurance requirements (not a comprehensive list) for all UK citizens married to non-UK citizen spouses. A record of earning almost £19K for at least an entire year (more if children were involved) within the UK (not including any income from a non-UK citizen spouse) if that UK citizen wanted to live in the UK with a non-UK spouse. If memory serves, a lump sum of at least £80k in the UK citizen's name for a year was good. Housing, private medical coverage - everything changed. The documentation and cost for a UK citizen, regardless of how long they'd been married to their spouse, became overwhelming by design.

May did this to UK citizens in 2012.


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I haven't seen much evidence May and the Tory government in place since May 2010 care much for most people or the UK.

turn the page everyone


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