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Creasy or Pidcock on socialising with Tories?

(I hope we can all unite in loathing Shed Seven. Move on from dire indie music ffs. Grow up.)


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Interesting, if scary, from Frances Coppola.
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""So the question has to be put: has the Empress Treeza given Dacre the knighthood he has craved for so many years? She’s given him the unique privilege among editors of one-on-one meetings, even hosting a dinner for him at 10 Downing Street. Yes, favouring the Mail’s editor sends the worst possible signal and legitimises some appallingly bad behaviour. But that hasn’t stopped some deeply unsavoury individuals getting gongs.

My Occam’s Razor says Dacre is getting a gong this time. Pass the sick bucket.""


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Grim, imo.

One thng life has taught me is to leave my teenage music tastes behind. Creasy's clngng on to hers make her look juvenile.


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Grim, imo.

One thng life has taught me is to leave my teenage music tastes behind. Creasy's clngng on to hers make her look juvenile.

Good god, you're a miserable arse.


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Grim, imo.

One thng life has taught me is to leave my teenage music tastes behind. Creasy's clngng on to hers make her look juvenile.

Good god, you're a miserable arse.


I *love* music. I have radio 3 or my own music on all the time. A joy of life.

But 90s indie??? Fun for kids back then who knew no better. Just sad to be listening to this stuff once grown. So much more joyous music out there.


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SH has spoken. 90s indie music shall be struck from the annals. 'Tis beneath us to listen to it.


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SH has spoken. 90s indie music shall be struck from the annals. 'Tis beneath us to listen to it.



It is for the best.


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I don't think much of Shed Seven - but to consign all my musical memories to the bin on the back of a dislike of certain bits of them is very extreme and, well, very SpinningHugo. I mean, I don't like Mahler, either, but where does that lead me?

For the record, I spent part of yesterday evening listening to Crowded House - mindless drone that I am.


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SH has spoken. 90s indie music shall be struck from the annals. 'Tis beneath us to listen to it.



It is for the best.

I understand your pain, yes mistakes were made & some attrocities committed.
It needs to be remembered & understood for what it was, to try and prevent it happening again.


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They formed a garage band in the Pacific Northwest of the USA and are touring with great success


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Creasy or Pidcock on socialising with Tories?

(I hope we can all unite in loathing Shed Seven. Move on from dire indie music ffs. Grow up.)


I'm more bothered about SC still being mates with Dugher tbh.


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We celebrated the 60 years of the European Union in March this year.
From a continent ravaged by war and famine to a unique Union with strong common values, this is the story of the EU. #EU60

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Grim, imo.

One thng life has taught me is to leave my teenage music tastes behind. Creasy's clngng on to hers make her look juvenile.


I was a punk once :)


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I was into Flower Power, bells, ribbons, music an all. :lol:
Good times...but long, long ago.


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I was into Flower Power, bells, ribbons, music an all. :lol:
Good times...but long, long ago.

Not all that long ago
1967 - Summer of Love


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"...I realised that people cannot be relied upon to make rational choices. We would have fixed global warming by now if we were rational. Instead, there’s a stubborn refusal to let go of the idea that environmental degradation is a “debate” in which there are “two sides”. Debating is a great way of exploring an issue when there is real room for doubt and nuance. But when a conclusion can be reached simply by assembling a mountain of known facts, debating is just a means of pitting the rational against the irrational."
This is good. Other statements made I'm uncertain about


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Keep on lurking ;)


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I was into Flower Power, bells, ribbons, music an all. :lol:
Good times...but long, long ago.

Not all that long ago
1967 - Summer of Love

Literally, A lifetime ago :)


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Good interview with Laura Pidcock in today's Graun, if anybody has missed it.


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I don't think much of Shed Seven - but to consign all my musical memories to the bin on the back of a dislike of certain bits of them is very extreme and, well, very SpinningHugo. I mean, I don't like Mahler, either, but where does that lead me?

For the record, I spent part of yesterday evening listening to Crowded House - mindless drone that I am.



Crowded House. Or Mahler.

TBF to Andy Burnham, a useless politician in many ways, he was good on outgrowing The Smith's

https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/ ... me.128279/


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
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Grim, imo.

One thng life has taught me is to leave my teenage music tastes behind. Creasy's clngng on to hers make her look juvenile.


I was a punk once :)


The right tense.


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Like most people I grew out of it in a few years, it was still an important event though.


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I was a teenager until the back end of 1979. There's a lot I listened to in those years I wouldn't bother with now but still listen to Steely Dan, Graham Parker, Patti Smith, early Ramones, Wire, Magazine, PiL, Siouxsie, Gang of Four, Warren Zevon etc etc.

I even saw Muddy Waters when I was a teenager - hopefully no-one will suggest that listening to him now makes me a wrong 'un. And don't even think about sneering at Duke, Charlie Parker, Mingus etc...

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Again, I think we can build a consensus around Charlie Parker not being Shed Seven.


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Talking golden oldies
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Unpublished report by Stephen Shaw found persistent staff shortages at prison with highest suicide rate in Britain (Guardian)


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Anyone who has ever had editor's comments on a piece of work they've submitted will like this...it's from documents submitted to court for the book by Milo which was cancelled. You can kinda see why...

https://twitter.com/sarahmei/status/946347142012051456

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Speaking of sheds - where's HindleA? And when's tinyclanger2 due to rejoin us?




At the time of writing having cardboard boxes thrown at me.I may or may not have headbutted one or two.


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I don't think much of Shed Seven - but to consign all my musical memories to the bin on the back of a dislike of certain bits of them is very extreme and, well, very SpinningHugo. I mean, I don't like Mahler, either, but where does that lead me?

For the record, I spent part of yesterday evening listening to Crowded House - mindless drone that I am.


Love Crowded House. Even got violins in this one:)
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Cultural snobs are the the most juvenile of all.Hopefully with maturity they may develop.


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Thank you! I really enjoyed that.


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Anyone who has ever had editor's comments on a piece of work they've submitted will like this...it's from documents submitted to court for the book by Milo which was cancelled. You can kinda see why...

https://twitter.com/sarahmei/status/946347142012051456
I'm much encouraged after having read the editor's comments.


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Dr John Cooper Clarke is on R4 right now reading his poetry


He wrote a good one about Hugo...will let you guess which one


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https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/ ... s#comments


Government to tell rogue landlords: 'shape up or ship out'

From the barstewards who won't even agree to a fit for habitation requirement whether private or otherwise.

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