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Morning

Elkie Brooks thanks you for the clarification - I guess Pearl won't be sing(e)ing anymore :) :)


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Why building more homes will not solve Britain’s housing crisis
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Why are we so obsessed with the minority of Labour voters who backed Leave not the majority of Tory ones who did?

https://twitter.com/stephenkb/status/957009751027544065

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Good morning

I think it depends what constituency you are talking about.....there are a lot of Labour constituencies who voted Leave and the damage was often done by non-voters (possibly a lot ex-Labour who made up that drift away from 2001) who came out to vote Leave

What would happen if Labour came out strongly Remain now? Who knows but I don't think the answer is quite so straightforward as the question implies

For Labour to change direction to strong Remain, as I have always said, there has to be a good catalyst and narrative that can be used to explain to people......if not they could end up doing more damage than good

That may well become apparent during the negotiations as the Tories' position will cause them big issuse - and we can see the start of that now

Why make Labour the story now? No election, Tories starting to revolt again and no current EU negotiations going on.....and this is probably as good as it gets for them unless people are saying that the negotiations are going to go well or the economy is going to start booming and austerity is reversed?


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https://twitter.com/stephenkb/status/957009751027544065


Because it fits into certain narratives, of course.


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My mate Merrick swears like a trooper and shouts randomly at passing traffic in between cuts.
I occasionally do the same though mostly mutter curses inaudible to others


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Usually a late night thing for me.


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Thanks - tempting, but I'm half way through my 49th cup of tea.


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Abi Wilkinson is back on Twitter, and the world seems a slightly less bad place again.


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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/27/building-homes-britain-housing-crisis?CMP=share_btn_tw

Why building more homes will not solve Britain’s housing crisis
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"...an economy such as ours – excessively dependent on consumer spending, property speculation and high levels of debt – is vulnerable to shocks. And rising land values dampen productivity: money gets channelled towards speculative property investment, starving the real economy of the investment it needs to improve productivity and boost people’s wages.

Pensions have become markedly less secure in the past 30 years. If [house] prices were to fall, the government must play a more active role in providing households and investors with assets such as ultra-safe government bonds that can be used to generate a steady source of income.

...the government must use its firepower to increase property taxes and force a shift to a different sort of economic model. It should drive investment in capital and social infrastructure in order to generate an alternative source of growth: productive, skilled, better-paid employment."
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I knew the comments might be challenging before I started reading them. I didn't expect the number of personal attacks, lies and defensiveness. I don't think people even read the article.


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Afternoon.

Certainly, building more houses isn't going to do much to solve our housing crisis if we continue to insist on building the wrong type of houses:

https://amp.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ssion=true
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The UK has a long-standing problem of viewing houses as investment vehicles. As long as we have a Tory government which views housing as an asset rather than a fundamental human right we will have a housing crisis of one form or another. And these are attitudes that are hard-baked into a large percentage of the electorate. Addressing the imbalance, without creating a lot of unhappy "losers", will take a long-term cross party effort. Something we are unlikely to see, as reducing house prices isn't a popular manifesto policy. Or we could get a house price crash under the Tories allowing Labour in to try a different approach. Something that will get more likely if we see more interest rate rises. But an uncontrolled crash rather than a controlled tapering will hurt a lot of people, not all of whom will either deserve or be able to afford it - an unavoidable consequence of the long term financialisation of housing.

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All of this blog's posts on housing are worth reading.

https://medium.com/@ian.mulheirn/fixing ... d6405963e0

Many here won't like it, but the takeaway is that the increase in cost is caused by low interest rates, not unit shortage. (There is unit shortage in London, but hardly anywhere else.)

Both main parties are utterly hopeless on housing, Labour inexplicably so.


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Petitifor is an MMT enthusiast. Not very sensible.


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Pursuance of homes fit for habitation is certainly a puzzle.


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SpinningHugo wrote:
All of this blog's posts on housing are worth reading.

https://medium.com/@ian.mulheirn/fixing ... d6405963e0

Many here won't like it, but the takeaway is that the increase in cost is caused by low interest rates, not unit shortage. (There is unit shortage in London, but hardly anywhere else.)

Both main parties are utterly hopeless on housing, Labour inexplicably so.


"Former think tanker and HM Treasury economist".

Yeah, sounds promising.......


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SpinningHugo wrote:
All of this blog's posts on housing are worth reading.

https://medium.com/@ian.mulheirn/fixing ... d6405963e0

Many here won't like it, but the takeaway is that the increase in cost is caused by low interest rates, not unit shortage. (There is unit shortage in London, but hardly anywhere else.)

Both main parties are utterly hopeless on housing, Labour inexplicably so.


why start off the post by saying something that is complete nonsense? I imagine 'many on here' are perfectly aware that house price increases are not independent of the interest rate that is paid......it is a fairly simple conclusion to make

There are many factors that influence house price rises and are different in different areas

If you believe in supply and demand thought then building more of the right properties in the right place would reduce prices though.....

As always in your posts someone or something is defined as being 'hopeless'.......


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Austerity thwarts growth, keeping interest rates down which in turn props up house prices and stock market assets.

A straightforward transfer of wealth from the poorest to the richest.

Furthermore, low interest rates are putting pressure on works pension schemes, alongside auto-enrolment, causing employers to squeeze wages to pay for the deficit.

None of these things are accidental or just the natural workings of markets. They are political decisions, and they are partially driven by an ideology that views houses as assets rather than a form of shelter. Because a council house for life provides a perfectly adequate roof over someone's head, thus the only reason to encourage a tenant to buy it is to turn a roof into an asset. And so the distribution of housing is slowly and inexorably skewed to meet the needs of investors over the needs of those who require shelter.

Although I don't necessarily agree with everything in this article, it makes the point that low interest rates, or at least the policy choices that lead to them, are deliberate choices and suggest a fear of voters reaction to a drop in house prices in part drives this, which is a reasonable assumption:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/int ... 93986.html

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It was intimated that much was going to be made of Theresa May's "triumph" and influence over USA trade policy in the wake of the Bombardier decision (not that it had anything to do with her or even, it would appear, with Donald Trump). Haven't seen anything of that nature - maybe tomorrow?


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"why start off the post by saying something that is complete nonsense?"


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Petitifor is an MMT enthusiast. Not very sensible.



I had my own quibbles/disagreements on the article, which you yourself had ALSO very obviously not read !

Your short 'comment' above is a a typical Dismissive Trolling Event


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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jan/27/jeremy-corbyn-pressure-change-of-direction-on-brexit


A story along these lines seems to be recycled by the Observer on a weekly basis these days. Let's see if this one has any more substance than most of the others.


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