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Universal Credit: different earning patterns and your payments


Updated with payment wait reduced to five weeks instead of six,"replicating the World of work".My "week"finished Monday morning,payslip Tuesday,into bank Friday.


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Ha,I find it impossible to learn tables, not sure why,
but remember some useful bits like 6 X 7
& work out the rest as I go
ie 8 X 4 is 2 X 4, doubled
9 X n is 10 X n - 1 etc.
Admittedly I was bottom of class in mental arithmetic tests at 12 (speed), though never a disadvantage later.


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Darts is a good way to do mental arithmetic.


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They are removing the possibility of also working in what was our situation,in many ways they are creating the system(a false portrayal version)they are supposedly fixing.


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"Blinded by the word "benefit",increasingly of the belief need to substantially increase extra costs allowances if they are going to remove accounting for particular circumstances otherwise.


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So you have a legal right to consider work as part of an assessment for social care and income disregarded as far as charging goes but the DWP says no.Of course a possible remedy would have been to work enough to make up the difference at vast more cost in substitute care "integration"


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Does my napper in Governments get away with the "fairness" thing applied to totally different situations,potentially the people supposedly being hard done to,comparatively.


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9 X n is 10 X n - 1


9 x n is 10 x n - n

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https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/universal-credit-different-earning-patterns-and-your-paymentlds#history


Universal Credit: different earning patterns and your payments


Updated with payment wait reduced to five weeks instead of six,"replicating the World of work".My "week"finished Monday morning,payslip Tuesday,into bank Friday.

Something wrong with your link.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... r-payments

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9 X n is 10 X n - 1


9 x n is 10 x n - n

Oops, that explains a lot!
(In my defence, I was walking & typing on mobile at the same time) :cry:


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Gone a bit quiet again? This place genuinely died on its posterior last night.


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Gone a bit quiet again? This place genuinely died on its posterior last night.

I left the computer in a hurry last night.
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Gone a bit quiet again? This place genuinely died on its posterior last night.


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Gone a bit quiet again? This place genuinely died on its posterior last night.


I thought maybe I'd killed it with my awful anagrams :lol:

TBF there wasn't much going on, even on Twitter. I guess everyone is either on half term or waiting for the garbology.


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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 66616.html

brexit-news-jeanclaude-juncker-accuses-boris-johnson-of-talking-total-nonsense


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While everyone is talking Johnson & Brexit..

Labour announces that they plan on legistating that people in rented accommodation must be able to have pets if they want to.
Stopping landlords banning pets.
Give me strength.

(yes pets are important, esp for those who live alone, but this is really not the hot issue/topic of the day.)


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https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/963744015307898880

Great thread! (Unless you are a Boris fan)


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AngryAsWell wrote:
While everyone is talking Johnson & Brexit..

Labour announces that they plan on legistating that people in rented accommodation must be able to have pets if they want to.
Stopping landlords banning pets.
Give me strength.

(yes pets are important, esp for those who live alone, but this is really not the hot issue/topic of the day.)

:lol:

I feel you are maybe slightly unfair, though I take your point.
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Today we've launched our plan for animal welfare. We would ban wild animals in circuses, consult landlords on giving tenants the right to keep a pet, strengthen the Hunting Act and expand affordable vet care for people on low incomes. Take a look


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AngryAsWell wrote:
While everyone is talking Johnson & Brexit..

Labour announces that they plan on legistating that people in rented accommodation must be able to have pets if they want to.
Stopping landlords banning pets.
Give me strength.

(yes pets are important, esp for those who live alone, but this is really not the hot issue/topic of the day.)

:lol:

I feel you are maybe slightly unfair, though I take your point.
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Today we've launched our plan for animal welfare. We would ban wild animals in circuses, consult landlords on giving tenants the right to keep a pet, strengthen the Hunting Act and expand affordable vet care for people on low incomes. Take a look


Yes I've seen it.
Knowing that today would be all about Johnson & Brexit, is not the day for this.


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Good morning

There is more to life in the UK than Brexit and life goes on.

I don't think Labour intend animal welfare to be a huge announcement but they should not be derailed from doing so because some bumbling idiot decides to use today to make a vacuous speech
You could make this argument on any day at the moment as there seems to be a relay in vacuous speeches by the Government

Keir Starmer has given a strong response to the Johnson speech and so it is not as though they are ignoring it

When there is something concrete about Brexit then perhaps we can then make a day of discussing nothing else, but as you said - today is not the day for it!


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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:
While everyone is talking Johnson & Brexit..

Labour announces that they plan on legistating that people in rented accommodation must be able to have pets if they want to.
Stopping landlords banning pets.
Give me strength.

(yes pets are important, esp for those who live alone, but this is really not the hot issue/topic of the day.)

:lol:

I feel you are maybe slightly unfair, though I take your point.
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Consulting with landlords isn't really going to get very far, I suspect. I think there are good reasons sometimes for banning pets from short term furnished private rentals. The key would be in Labour's general housing policy to get more long term stable leases, like council houses, where tenants take responsibility for carpets and furnishings rather than the landlord, in which case keeping pets is much less of an issue.

It would be nice if pets could be more often accommodated in care homes as well, but I'm not sure it's something you can legislate for in terms of rights, more something to be encouraged through change in cultural attitudes and ensuring there are as few barriers as possible.

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Good piece by Abi Wilkinson on the Labour animal welfare proposals - and I must respectfully disagree with AAW about the importance of this topic.

To put it brutally, more people care about these issues than the - still pretty impenetrable to many - mechanics of Brexit.

These proposals are both right in principle and good politics.


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Chuka Umunna, the Labour MP and leading Open Britain supporter, has dubbed the foreign secretary’s speech an “astonishing exercise in hypocrisy”. (Politics Live, Guardian)


He's easily astonished, then.


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He is easily a lot of things.......


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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/963744015307898880

Great thread! (Unless you are a Boris fan)

But it doesn't mention carrots?
https://twitter.com/StevePeers/status/9 ... 7897268224

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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Good piece by Abi Wilkinson on the Labour animal welfare proposals - and I must respectfully disagree with AAW about the importance of this topic.

To put it brutally, more people care about these issues than the - still pretty impenetrable to many - mechanics of Brexit.

These proposals are both right in principle and good politics.

I agree, there's a lot of anti-hunting stuff on my twitter.
My interest is in the environment and nature rather than animal welfare but those things go together for many.

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I'm completely at a loss for words having read Johnson's today


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Kindest description of said speech I have seen is "load of waffle".


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He said the UK government would be irresponsible if it committed to having regulatory alignment in emerging sectors such as artificial intelligence or robotics or bioscience, where he said the UK “may want to do things differently”.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... leaving-eu

"Differently" in what sense, exactly? More recklessly and irresponsibly? Or more restrictive and ethically constrained?

These details are important.....

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Dover will face permanent traffic jams stretching 20 miles out from the port from March 2019 unless Theresa May agrees to the EU’s proposals for a Brexit transition period, the organisation representing the shipping industry and ports has said.

David Dingle, the chairman of Maritime UK, said lorry drivers could be stuck on the main approach roads to Dover for up to two days if there was no deal for a transition. (Politics Live, Guardian)



How many more times do they need to point this out before the "Brexiters" will listen?

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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Kindest description of said speech I have seen is "load of waffle".


Unhelpful waffle, at that.

The EU are already wary of the UK trying to undercut EU countries with reduced workers rights and environmental protections and have indicated they will mitigate attempts to do so through the kind of trade deal they are willing to agree. I suspect they'll be very interested in the new "freedoms" Boris wishes to exploit and will downgrade the amount of access to EU markets they are willing to grant us accordingly.

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Dover will face permanent traffic jams stretching 20 miles out from the port from March 2019 unless Theresa May agrees to the EU’s proposals for a Brexit transition period, the organisation representing the shipping industry and ports has said.

David Dingle, the chairman of Maritime UK, said lorry drivers could be stuck on the main approach roads to Dover for up to two days if there was no deal for a transition. (Politics Live, Guardian)



How many more times do they need to point this out before the "Brexiters" will listen?

(Despairing rhetorical question)


You are TALKING BRITAIN DOWN, and are probably being paid to do so by the SHADOWY SOROS CABAL!!


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When's the next "Brexit" speech, and who's delivering it?


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Boris digs himself in deeper as his usual tricks fall flat
John Crace (Guardian)


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When's the next "Brexit" speech, and who's delivering it?


May is supposed to be doing one I think? At some point. When she gets round to it.


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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:
While everyone is talking Johnson & Brexit..

Labour announces that they plan on legistating that people in rented accommodation must be able to have pets if they want to.
Stopping landlords banning pets.
Give me strength.

(yes pets are important, esp for those who live alone, but this is really not the hot issue/topic of the day.)

:lol:

I feel you are maybe slightly unfair, though I take your point.
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Today we've launched our plan for animal welfare. We would ban wild animals in circuses, consult landlords on giving tenants the right to keep a pet, strengthen the Hunting Act and expand affordable vet care for people on low incomes. Take a look


Yes I've seen it.
Knowing that today would be all about Johnson & Brexit, is not the day for this.

For clarity AAW I was laughing with you here - it may not have come over that way.


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When's the next "Brexit" speech, and who's delivering it?


May is supposed to be doing one I think? At some point. When she gets round to it.

And Fox and Davis :roll:


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In the first speech, being held on Wednesday, the Foreign Secretary will call for national unity over withdrawal. Then, on Saturday, May will detail the ‘security partnership’ that the UK wants to maintain with the EU. Davis, the Brexit Secretary, and Dr Fox, International Trade Secretary, will also set out their agendas. Cabinet Office Minister David Lidington, who backed Remain in the 2016 referendum, will also deliver a speech. The PM will then round off the process in an address setting out how she sees the overall relationship between the UK and Brussels post-withdrawal.

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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
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When's the next "Brexit" speech, and who's delivering it?


May is supposed to be doing one I think? At some point. When she gets round to it.

And Fox and Davis :roll:



But certainly not Jeremy Corbyn.


The real fight starts

well, in a bit I suppose.

What a disaster UK politics is.


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