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UKIP // Confidence motion in Leader Henry Bolton, result:

Confidence (Bolton should stay): 500 (36.6%)

No Confidence (Bolton should go): 867 (63.4%)

I suppose that really is it for him then?

One of "Super Thursday's" byelections saw UKIP finish behind the LibDems in Tendring (ie greater Clacton) Stick a fork in this party, its done.

You know, I had hoped Dan Snow wasn't a moron:

Dan Snow
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@thehistoryguy

This is insane. If this is true how can Corbyn go on as leader let alone become PM? " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
2:18 PM - Feb 17, 2018

refitman wrote:You know, I had hoped Dan Snow wasn't a moron:

Dan Snow
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@thehistoryguy

This is insane. If this is true how can Corbyn go on as leader let alone become PM? " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
2:18 PM - Feb 17, 2018

I'm not surprised at all, is anyone?

http://observer.com/2018/02/new-report- ... -in-1980s/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It is like Trump and the pornstars. Who is shocked? It is baked into his numbers.

The videos of the NPF are hilarious

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Takes me back 30+ years.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43097113" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Earthquake felt across much of England and Wales

Well that explains it. This was pretty much me:

Louise Craig......

"I get a lot of fat wood pigeons jumping up and down on my chimney and I first of all thought the noise was them but they must have put on a heck a lot of weight to make the house shake," she told the BBC.

Except I thought the bang was a seagull or a cat landing on the flat roof and the lurch as the house moved and settled again just a figment of my imagination.

Did anyone else get the full bang and lurch experience?

Still, there appears to be no actual evidence that Andy Kerr was abusive towards Katrina Murray as originally claimed. Funny, that.

SpinningHugo wrote:

refitman wrote:You know, I had hoped Dan Snow wasn't a moron:

Dan Snow
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@thehistoryguy

This is insane. If this is true how can Corbyn go on as leader let alone become PM? " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
2:18 PM - Feb 17, 2018

I'm not surprised at all, is anyone?

http://observer.com/2018/02/new-report- ... -in-1980s/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It is like Trump and the pornstars. Who is shocked? It is baked into his numbers.

Dan Snow is a professional historian. You would think he wouldn't take the word of a R-W historian at face value, especially the day after the Czech's have debunked the story. A member of the Privy Council wouldn't be checked?

Oh, and the Trump story? Seems to have some legs, considering his lawyer at the time paid her a load of money.

refitman wrote: Dan Snow is a professional historian. You would think he wouldn't take the word of a R-W historian at face value, especially the day after the Czech's have debunked the story. A member of the Privy Council wouldn't be checked?

Oh, and the Trump story? Seems to have some legs, considering his lawyer at the time paid her a load of money.

Have you a link to the debunking? I've not been paying attention to this story and didn't know the files were fake.

SpinningHugo wrote:

refitman wrote: Dan Snow is a professional historian. You would think he wouldn't take the word of a R-W historian at face value, especially the day after the Czech's have debunked the story. A member of the Privy Council wouldn't be checked?

Oh, and the Trump story? Seems to have some legs, considering his lawyer at the time paid her a load of money.

Have you a link to the debunking? I've not been paying attention to this story and didn't know the files were fake.

We did cover it yesterday, but if you really need the help:

https://www.politico.eu/article/jeremy- ... ch-agency/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Sun’s account was further disputed in Czech press on Friday. New agency ČTK quoted Svetlana Ptáčníková, who heads the Czech Security Forces Archive, which keeps documents from the now defunct Czechoslovak communist secret service (known as the StB). She said although Corbyn did meet an StB officer — referred to as Jan Dymic in the archives — the Labour leader considered him a diplomat.

One thing to remember, if people can tell you're a spy, you're a pretty shitty spy.

refitman wrote:

SpinningHugo wrote:

refitman wrote: Dan Snow is a professional historian. You would think he wouldn't take the word of a R-W historian at face value, especially the day after the Czech's have debunked the story. A member of the Privy Council wouldn't be checked?

Oh, and the Trump story? Seems to have some legs, considering his lawyer at the time paid her a load of money.

Have you a link to the debunking? I've not been paying attention to this story and didn't know the files were fake.

We did cover it yesterday, but if you really need the help:

https://www.politico.eu/article/jeremy- ... ch-agency/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Sun’s account was further disputed in Czech press on Friday. New agency ČTK quoted Svetlana Ptáčníková, who heads the Czech Security Forces Archive, which keeps documents from the now defunct Czechoslovak communist secret service (known as the StB). She said although Corbyn did meet an StB officer — referred to as Jan Dymic in the archives — the Labour leader considered him a diplomat.

One thing to remember, if people can tell you're a spy, you're a pretty shitty spy.

Sorry, how is that a debunking?

SpinningHugo wrote:
Sorry, how is that a debunking?

Maybe I should have quoted the whole article:

“Mr. Corbyn was neither registered [by the StB] as a collaborator, nor does this [his alleged collaboration] stem from archive documents,” Ptacnikova said.

The Czech archive keepers have found signs that the StB tried to prevent Corbyn from discovering the real identity of the Czechoslovak official he was meeting, Ptacnikova said.

The Sun story is that Corbyn knowingly passed on info to a Czech spy.

seems that Hugo's source has a little difficulty relating to Planet Earth

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refitman wrote:

SpinningHugo wrote:
Sorry, how is that a debunking?

Maybe I should have quoted the whole article:

“Mr. Corbyn was neither registered [by the StB] as a collaborator, nor does this [his alleged collaboration] stem from archive documents,” Ptacnikova said.

The Czech archive keepers have found signs that the StB tried to prevent Corbyn from discovering the real identity of the Czechoslovak official he was meeting, Ptacnikova said.

The Sun story is that Corbyn knowingly passed on info to a Czech spy.

I don't think that is right. Re-read the observer link I gave. It is quite consistent with the politics.eu piece. Corbyn is accused of being either a stooge or the StB or, more plausibly, a naive idiot. Given that on every single issue for four decades he sides against what he perceives as "western Imperialism" that he is such a fool is hardly news. Like Trump and the pornstars. Nobody cares.

Given the IRA, Press Tv, Hamas, Stop the War etc, that he met with a Czech spy, whom he naively may have thought a 'diplomat', is small beer. His Campaign group credentials are longstanding. You either care about this stuff (I do) or you don't (most other people).

All evidence,and unlike you I go by evidence suggests you largely make it up as you go along.

I don't think that is right. Re-read the observer link I gave. It is quite consistent with the politics.eu piece. Corbyn is accused of being either a stooge or the StB or, more plausibly, a naive idiot. Given that on every single issue for four decades he sides against what he perceives as "western Imperialism" that he is such a fool is hardly news. Like Trump and the pornstars. Nobody cares.

Given the IRA, Press Tv, Hamas, Stop the War etc, that he met with a Czech spy, whom he naively may have thought a 'diplomat', is small beer. His Campaign group credentials are longstanding. You either care about this stuff (I do) or you don't (most other people).

well another to add to your list of shit posts - in fact it may be one of the most laughable

How many politicians do you think have met people who turned out to be spies? Almost everyone I think....Brenda herself had a spy working in her household for years

This is a none story from a fantasist that has been used by right-wing rags (and trolls) to restart their attempts to smear him

Undoubtably the thickest lawyer I have ever come across

For but one thing,members of the Campaign group have/had different views,some widely.

Have you read the Observer story? In the second paragraph:

However, a disturbing new report in The Sun reveals that Corbyn was much more than just a left-wing activist in the 1980s—he was spying on his own country for the Warsaw Pact

Never mind that Corbyn was just a back bencher (how the fuck did he know what Maggie had for breakfast), did you read the part of the politico story where the Czechs say that

“Mr. Corbyn was neither registered [by the StB] as a collaborator, nor does this [his alleged collaboration] stem from archive documents,” Ptacnikova said.

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Talk about feeding prejudices.

Oh, and observer.com is owned by Jared Kushner. Make of that what you will.

SH has started on the whisky early,even PF is only on her third bottle of gin of the day.

I am tropical fish sitting for my next door neighbours when they go to Dubai,my extraordinary community endeavours embarrass me sometimes.I did ensure an at your(or more correctly their)own risk,caveat.

Three of them,I have christened them Mary Mungo and Midge

Three at the moment...

"Bang and lurch experience"

Yes but not for some time.

HindleA wrote:"Bang and lurch experience"

Yes but not for some time.

HindleA wrote:"Bang and lurch experience"

Yes but not for some time.

And there was me thinking it was just a bit of swanky stereo equipment!

refitman wrote:
Oh, and observer.com is owned by Jared Kushner. Make of that what you will.

Really???

HindleA wrote:SH has started on the whisky early,even PF is only on her third bottle of gin of the day.

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AnatolyKasparov wrote:

refitman wrote:
Oh, and observer.com is owned by Jared Kushner. Make of that what you will.

Really???

apparently so....and also this 'allegation' was apparently made in the 80s and even Thatcher laughed it away

AnatolyKasparov wrote:

refitman wrote:
Oh, and observer.com is owned by Jared Kushner. Make of that what you will.

Really???

Yup.

The Observer is now owned by Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump's husband and Republican nominee Donald Trump's son in law.

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/observer" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ah right, its pretty hard to be sure about anything these days

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Ah right, its pretty hard to be sure about anything these days

Dan Snow retweeted this accusation via Niall Ferguson....piss poor from a supposed historian!

He is getting a bit of a battering now....some making a connection between his eagerness to criticise Corbyn with the fact his b-i-l is one of the richest men in Europe and doesn't seem that keen on tax

DFH defending the homophobia of the Mail and attacking Centerparcs and TSC.

Night night.

Night PF.

Ukip Appeared On A Quarter Of All Question Time Shows Since May 2010, Huff Post UK Reveals
The Greens only got a look in 7% of the time

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/q ... 87d35ae186" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hey Hugo - why not fight for your new party to get more air time ? Would be something to spend your time on.

https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Care homes for mental health patients are facing closure amid a row over social care funding.

Some staff face losing their jobs while residents are having to be re-homed.Dozens of people with serious mental health conditions face being re-homed by the council in a row over fees with a private company.

I don't get the point of stuff like this

https://chalkhilldigital.info/straight- ... -politics/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Time he woke up and realised who is now in charge.

If they have something to say other than pointless whining that they aren't "in charge" any more, then you never know people might actually listen??

BBC News and their new leader...

"UKIP has to continue because we are the only opposition"



I think I'm right in saying that the number of MPs they have is quite low....

On this NPF furore, mate of mine says the vote has to be held at least 7 days after. It has been badly handled but looks like some rule ending went on and so it is quite right it was stopped....it was handled badly though

When will Labour start acting like adults over these things instead of children

PorFavor wrote:Night night.

Goodnight, PorFavor

John McDonnell MP‏Verified account
@johnmcdonnellMP

Telegraph lies. These are ridiculous and false allegations. I have never met any Czechoslovak or Soviet agent, nor visited the Soviet or Russian embassy and have only visited Guildford once in my life, which was last year for a Labour Party public meeting. Ludicrous Tory lies.

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Not sure what this is about as I've not seen the torygraph yet, but combined with attack on Corbyn & Brendan Cox (who it seems may have stuff to answer) I can't help wondering....... Is Maybot thinking of another snap election ???? There is no need to bring this stuff (whatever it may be) out now, why are they now saving it for GE time ?

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AngryAsWell wrote:John McDonnell MP‏Verified account
@johnmcdonnellMP

Telegraph lies. These are ridiculous and false allegations. I have never met any Czechoslovak or Soviet agent, nor visited the Soviet or Russian embassy and have only visited Guildford once in my life, which was last year for a Labour Party public meeting. Ludicrous Tory lies.

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Not sure what this is about as I've not seen the torygraph yet, but combined with attack on Corbyn & Brendan Cox (who it seems may have stuff to answer) I can't help wondering....... Is Maybot thinking of another snap election ???? There is no need to bring this stuff (whatever it may be) out now, why are they now saving it for GE time ?

Edit to delete several stray "ings" that had no place in where they had jumped into

Front page of the Kipper: " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Goodnight, everyone
hold on, please
love,
cJA

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... in-society" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
One Day Without Us events aim ‘to stand against hatred, xenophobia and intolerance’

Nice but not sure once a year is going to make the point clear enough.

Huh. The Czech's ran a Tory MP for over a decade in the 60s and 70s. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 96370.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... since-2010" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



More than a million benefits sanctions imposed on disabled people since 2010

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... rugs-gangs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Exclusive: shock figures reveal state of UK’s brutal prisons
Observer analysis of inspection reports shows two in five jails are unsafe and inadequate conditions prevail in two thirds

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... l-division" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


The Observer view on Britain’s shameful social division

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/co ... et-podcast" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


The Alternatives: how a Liverpool suburb upended its housing market