Saturday 24th & Sunday 25th February 2018

55DegreesNorth · Post by **55DegreesNorth** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 5:36 pm

Afternoon, folks.
Here’s a cinematic treat for anyone in my area in March.
https://www.tynesidecinema.co.uk/film-a ... -227700249
Month long film festival with the theme, “Meanwhile, what about Socialism?”

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 5:38 pm

[youtube]0lhdeC-yYMI[/youtube]

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 5:54 pm

I do like Stop the War's take on the massacres of children taking place in Syria. Such a powerful reaction to Assad's butchery

http://www.stopwar.org.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I am sure their founder and former Chair will agree.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 5:56 pm

I hope you paid your bus fare,have they let you off yet.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 6:02 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... -education" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Creative industries fear tuition fees will kill supply of talent
Costs put off students who fear being indebted, but there is a wider loss is to the economy

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 6:04 pm

SpinningHugo wrote:I do like Stop the War's take on the massacres of children taking place in Syria. Such a powerful reaction to Assad's butchery

http://www.stopwar.org.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I am sure their founder and former Chair will agree.

do you just look for things so you can post the same thing time and time again

We know Stop the War and their positioning....you either accept it or don't and nothing much has changed since your last attempt to bring this up

Post by **refitman** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 6:58 pm

Well, that didn't go to plan.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 7:01 pm

refitman wrote:Well, that didn't go to plan.

I made the mistake of winding up my Scottish mates

Getting it double-barrelled from all sides

I didn't think there were so many different Braveheart gifs - and the Scottish do have a way with swearing - so creative

Post by **refitman** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 7:17 pm

howsillyofme1 wrote:
refitman wrote:Well, that didn't go to plan.

I made the mistake of winding up my Scottish mates

Getting it double-barrelled from all sides

I didn't think there were so many different Braveheart gifs - and the Scottish do have a way with swearing - so creative

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 7:56 pm

https://www.economist.com/news/britain/ ... tages-even" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Norwegian lessons for Brexit Britain
Theresa May’s government is firmly against the Norway model. Yet it offers many advantages, even for Brexiteers

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:11 pm

howsillyofme1 wrote:
HindleA wrote:FFS he's one bloke being an obnoxious wazzock.Like anywhere you'll get them.They don't disappear if you ban them,the last thing to do is ban yourself.Don't give a toss what others think of you let them worry what you think of them.Life's far too short.IMHO.
I am quite happy to tell him what I think but refuse to ignore his rubbish

It is being criticised for not ignoring him that grates with me to be honest

Understood. But also understand that for other people it could be the seeing the same arguments with him day after day that grates.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:15 pm

David Davis once said ‘if a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy’. Well Mr Davis, I wish to change my mind
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bre ... 25486.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:18 pm

There are some cracking comments BTL on the above as you can imagine. There's one about remoaners with lots of upper case outrage, to which someone has replied:

Not a fan of punctuation then Paul?

Which cheered me somewhat.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:20 pm

A fair amount isn't,multi dimensional self-fullfillment."domination" or not,depends on perspective,reaction or not to,even this is adding to.Anyway,did you find your coat?

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:21 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote:
HindleA wrote:FFS he's one bloke being an obnoxious wazzock.Like anywhere you'll get them.They don't disappear if you ban them,the last thing to do is ban yourself.Don't give a toss what others think of you let them worry what you think of them.Life's far too short.IMHO.
I am quite happy to tell him what I think but refuse to ignore his rubbish

It is being criticised for not ignoring him that grates with me to be honest
Understood. But also understand that for other people it could be the seeing the same arguments with him day after day that grates.

If he continues to be allowed to post on here then he needs to be responded to.....ignoring him doesn't work so should we just let him post without challenge?

I am sorry that it can seem to be the same discussion

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:22 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:David Davis once said ‘if a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy’. Well Mr Davis, I wish to change my mind
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bre ... 25486.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Did you vote Leave?

Sorry I didn't see it was the title of the article

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:23 pm

Tarquin not overly happy with third hand adapted 36 year old thermals.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:25 pm

He certainly wasn't grateful.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:29 pm

He looked happy enough in them yesterday.
Bloody ingrate.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:45 pm

[youtube]Q4aRRgvWT5w[/youtube]

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:46 pm

There isn't a song entitled "Third Hand Tarquin" so that's all I could come up with.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:59 pm

UN security council votes unanimously for month-long Syria ceasefire (Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... -ceasefire

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 9:22 pm

Not sure what "works" means,my view is that as a proven liar and hypocrite to what end in treating seriously beyond circularity no end,expending of energy,diversion otherwise more usefully deployed,draining and putting off is his thing why play his game,have fun with it,subject to mood IMHO.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 9:26 pm

"I got the thermal blues"

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 9:52 pm

The "SH" character.I'm actually a letterbox on the Isle of Wight in real life.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 9:59 pm

Maintaining a consistent level of incoherency isn't as think as you easy.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 10:30 pm

Emily Thornberry‏Verified account
@EmilyThornberry

The UNSC resolution on Syria is hugely welcome. If it holds, we must use the next month not just to stop the bombing and provide humanitarian aid, but to start genuine talks with all parties on a political solution and a lasting peace.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 11:35 pm

Goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 11:38 pm

Bradley's apology tweet...

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My son observed that there's been a few retweets by him since to ensure that it slips down his timeline...

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 25 Feb, 2018 12:40 am

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ail-sunday" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Justin Welby warns of divisive Brexit and crushing austerity
Archbishop of Canterbury calls for new narrative based on solidarity and resilience

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 25 Feb, 2018 12:40 am

Austerity is “crushing the weak” and Brexit has divided the country, the archbishop of Canterbury has warned. In a dramatic assessment of the state of the country, Justin Welby said there is a danger of a “schism” in society that the most vulnerable are falling into.

The Anglican leader issued a plea for Britons to be “generous” in adapting to newcomers to the country and called for people to show “care for each other”.

Quite agree.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 25 Feb, 2018 1:22 am

"Made vulnerable"

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 25 Feb, 2018 1:50 am

Without doubt purposeful changes on the pretence of fairness to those in totally different situations/circumstances (and of course always potential)with more to come and mooted, has created needless vulnerabilty to those in the same boat as we were.The salient feature being epic false economy before you get to the misrepresentation in bilious tones and human cost.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 25 Feb, 2018 1:59 am

Sometimes an IMHO is redundant.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 25 Feb, 2018 2:06 am

I don't like the "weak/vulnerable" stuff,Societal barriers aren't natural.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 25 Feb, 2018 2:07 am

But that's me.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 25 Feb, 2018 2:32 am

Eg.the equivalent of being hit by a truck every day and still going on,isn't weakness,I humbly suggest.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 25 Feb, 2018 2:46 am

Well using other terms than 'weak' or 'vulnerable' I nevertheless agree with the basic sentiment that Brexit is divisive and that Britain is stuck in a post-Thatcher I'm alright jack hell.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 25 Feb, 2018 6:53 am

A bit old but outlines the view and intention given influence on policy and oversight re.contributory benefits and" opportunity with UC"

https://www.centreforsocialjustice.org. ... y-benefits" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Sun 25 Feb, 2018 8:50 am

Good old JC showing his true colours

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

£350m a week you say?

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sun 25 Feb, 2018 8:53 am

SpinningHugo wrote:Good old JC showing his true colours

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

£350m a week you say?

why not wait for the speech until basing it upon media reports of what may be in the speech and how it is contextualised

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 25 Feb, 2018 9:04 am

howsillyofme1 wrote:
If he continues to be allowed to post on here then he needs to be responded to.....ignoring him doesn't work so should we just let him post without challenge?

I am sorry that it can seem to be the same discussion

How would we know?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 25 Feb, 2018 9:08 am

So she's a comedian now.

Theresa May: The UK's 'best days lie ahead of us'
https://news.sky.com/story/live-corbyn- ... s-11266891" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sun 25 Feb, 2018 9:15 am

tinyclanger2 wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote:
If he continues to be allowed to post on here then he needs to be responded to.....ignoring him doesn't work so should we just let him post without challenge?

I am sorry that it can seem to be the same discussion
How would we know?

I have tried it enough times and he is still here isn't he?

Anyway, I am not doing it....his shit should be challenged

I will say it again:

if he is just hear to disrupt and troll he should be banned (like rusty etc)
If he is considered to be a member of the board then I will respond and challenge him

What is wrong with that? If he posts the same nonsense each day then I will challenge him on it each day. It is not my problem if he refuses to have a proper discussion

I disagree with Willow and Tubby on a number of occasions but it doesn't mean we can't have really good debate (occasionally tetchy) which adds value in my view

I think he is a troll but I am in the minority - that is democracy for you!

Also, I am not going to change my approach and I apologise if it annoys you

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 25 Feb, 2018 9:17 am

Farage:

2016

The Ukip leader speaks to the Mirror’s Associate Editor Kevin Maguire and warns that a '52-48 result would be unfinished business'
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/n ... um-7985017" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

2016
Leave 51.89
Remain 48.11

2018

“The biggest single danger to the huge victories that were achieved back in 2016 is complacency,” he said, echoing remarks made by Mr Trump earlier in the day when the President said Congress needs more Republicans to push forward his agenda.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 26221.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Perhaps just harking back to this on every occasion could have some effect.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 25 Feb, 2018 9:23 am

howsillyofme1 wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote:
If he continues to be allowed to post on here then he needs to be responded to.....ignoring him doesn't work so should we just let him post without challenge?

I am sorry that it can seem to be the same discussion
How would we know?

I have tried it enough times and he is still here isn't he?

Anyway, I am not doing it....his shit should be challenged

I will say it again:

if he is just hear to disrupt and troll he should be banned (like rusty etc)
If he is considered to be a member of the board then I will respond and challenge him

What is wrong with that? If he posts the same nonsense each day then I will challenge him on it each day. It is not my problem if he refuses to have a proper discussion

I disagree with Willow and Tubby on a number of occasions but it doesn't mean we can't have really good debate (occasionally tetchy) which adds value in my view

I think he is a troll but I am in the minority - that is democracy for you!

Also, I am not going to change my approach and I apologise if it annoys you

I think a more accurate summary of the view is that it's hard to definitively and collectively draw a line on who is and who isn't a troll. But you can personally decide someone is a troll and then ignore them.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sun 25 Feb, 2018 9:26 am

According to Wikipedia

Benjamin David Bradley (born 11 December 1989) is a British Conservative Party politician, self admitted liar; and eugenics enthusiast. He has been the Member of Parliament (MP) for Mansfield since the 2017 general election.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sun 25 Feb, 2018 9:27 am

That is up to you....I haven't asked you to stop ignoring him so please show me the courtesy of not asking me to stop engaging with him

I do not block, I do not ignore on this board

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Sun 25 Feb, 2018 9:28 am

Is Ken suspension over?

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/po ... urn-labour" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This and the Grain piece both make the mistake of saying his membership has been suspended. It isn't. It is his ability to stand for posts in the party.

I don't see why Corbyn would want to spend political capital on Ken Hitler Livingstone

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 25 Feb, 2018 9:29 am

SpinningHugo wrote:Good old JC showing his true colours

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

£350m a week you say?

Given that is what the Leave campaign have been saying, isn't it the case that if we do leave and there isn't such funds forthcoming he can react in mock outrage and say "What - you mean that this Brexit dividend isn't true?"