Saturday 24th & Sunday 25th February 2018

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 5:18 am

Morning

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/he ... on-support" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Baroness Campbell of Surbiton: Support for young disabled people has ground to a mighty halt and is now regressing

https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/m ... und-table/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/t ... otability/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tory peer attacks McVey over ‘litany of inaccuracies’ on Motability

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 5:30 am

https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/k ... customers/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Knee-jerk responses to plastic straw campaigns ‘risk isolating disabled customers’

(Didn't see this before my comment)

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 6:21 am

Morning

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 6:24 am

TM's Brexit Strategy:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eakthrough" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
[youtube]uY4cVhXxW64[/youtube]

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 6:27 am

Tusk told reporters on Friday: “I am glad the UK government seems to be moving towards a more detailed position.

“However, if the media reports are correct, I am afraid the UK position today is based on pure illusion. It looks like the cake [and eat it] philosophy is still alive.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 6:37 am

Tucker's world

http://www.thenational.scot/business/16 ... _meltdown/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

a third of Scottish Tory MPs have now pledged allegiance to a hard Brexit led by Jacob Rees-Mogg, an outcome endorsed by no single constituency in Scotland.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 6:37 am

Brexit: our once and future omnishambles

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 7:24 am

edit: eggs bacon beans & a fried slice
(had been googling something & seem to have submitted it too ftn instead)

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 7:30 am

All clearly right
https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What is amazing is that it s now seen as a significant step for Labour to commit to remaining in the customs union (or if [verbose hardcore party liners with no judgement] prefer, entering into a customs union materially identical to the current one upon leaving it.)

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 7:35 am

SpinningHugo wrote:All clearly right
https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What is amazing is that it s now seen as a significant step for Labour to commit to remaining in the customs union (or is morons prefer, entering into a customs union materially identical to the current one upon leaving it.)

That is twice you have referred to me as a 'moron' because of my position

Firstly 'moron' is a relic of the 80s but is not a word I would ever use to describe someone because of its erstwhile links to a real mental conditions

Secondly, the concept you refer to as 'moronic' is perfectly reasonable and explicable - you can find this distinction being discussed a lot recently

Thirdly, an amendment saying 'the EU Custom's Union' will not pass the HoC whereas one with 'a custom's union with the EU' could do

I would report you (again) for saying this but I have done so before and nothing ever happens - I will now just call you out on it

For the actual distinction between 'a' and 'the' - there are plenty English textbooks or you could bother to read previous posts

Apologies to others who find this tedious but I am not letting this person get away with this

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 7:41 am

My manners,

Good morning

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:03 am

Is SH an actual person,though robotic responses reminds me of a sort of rejected DWPbot who didn't quite make the grade.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:11 am

He finds an angle or tries to (knowingly and with intent)that annoys/upsets people ,sometimes in general others specific and gnaws away at it.

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:12 am

HindleA wrote:Is SH an actual person,though robotic responses reminds me of a sort of rejected DWPbot who didn't quite make the grade.

I always think the inability to construct a coherent sentence is the clearest sign of a Bot.

(When someone is blocked you can hit display post. I'm bored stuck on a bus but should have learned to resist the temptation. )

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:14 am

Other Hugos are available:

https://hugo.qz.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:15 am

Day6 thankfully the fish have survived thus far,the responsibility is overbearing but only a couple of days to go.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:15 am

SpinningHugo wrote:
HindleA wrote:Is SH an actual person,though robotic responses reminds me of a sort of rejected DWPbot who didn't quite make the grade.

I always think the inability to construct a coherent sentence is the clearest sign of a Bot.

(When someone is blocked you can hit display post. I'm bored stuck on a bus but should have learned to resist the temptation. )

I also think the inability to independently construct a coherent argument without just posting a link to some limited hack/appallingly bad author as being the gospel as being quite instructive as well

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:17 am

Some sort of attempt at a double act.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:20 am

SpinningHugo wrote:All clearly right
https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What is amazing is that it s now seen as a significant step for Labour to commit to remaining in the customs union (or if morons prefer, entering into a customs union materially identical to the current one upon leaving it.)

This post is deliberately provocative, please desist.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:21 am

OK guys let's leave that

Morning.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:26 am

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:OK guys let's leave that

Morning.

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:28 am

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
SpinningHugo wrote:All clearly right
https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What is amazing is that it s now seen as a significant step for Labour to commit to remaining in the customs union (or if morons prefer, entering into a customs union materially identical to the current one upon leaving it.)
This post is deliberately provocative, please desist.

Apologies. I've edited to remove the offensive word.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:38 am

SH is being a knobhead.Hopefully that sentence is coherent enough,even for him.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:40 am

It must be really shocking for Dominic Grieve to know that he is a [verbose hardcore party liners with no judgement sic] Labour supporter as he was asked, and responded to, the same question yesterday with a similar distinction

Of course Hugo is more capable that both him and Keir Starmer who have no credibility or respect within legal circles

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:41 am

HindleA wrote:SH is being a knobhead.Hopefully that sentence is coherent enough,even for him.

I understood that....and concur

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 8:44 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43179696" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Plan International charity reveals child sex abuse cases

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 9:08 am

Here we go

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 25241.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Prior to this clip there was a discussion of 'a' vs 'the'......

Dominic Grieve is a clever bloke and I assume knows more than me on the legal detail, so I am relatively content that he is on the same page as me

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 9:09 am

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals ... 45905ADBBA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Which Types of Family are at Risk of Food Poverty in the UK? A Relative Deprivation Approach

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 9:37 am

Good morfternoon.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 10:25 am

Was it something I said?

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 10:46 am

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That's not democracy, that's a coup. And the only way out for the libertarian elite is to see it through and crash out without a deal. Any compromise will mean they will be diminished for decades to come. They only have one chance.

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 11:02 am

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland ... -1.3403228" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 11:07 am

Oh.
FFS.
Again.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 11:07 am

And as Constance is already very much aware, the sixth pet details my leaflet throughout a past twist.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 11:10 am

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There is an argument that when you engage with trolling it stops being trolling and becomes discussion.

Eric_WLothian · Post by **Eric_WLothian** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 11:21 am

tinyclanger2 wrote:Tucker's world

http://www.thenational.scot/business/16 ... _meltdown/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
a third of Scottish Tory MPs have now pledged allegiance to a hard Brexit led by Jacob Rees-Mogg, an outcome endorsed by no single constituency in Scotland.

The National: "a third of Scottish Tory MPs..."
The Scotsman: "Four Scottish Tory MPs... one of whom campaigned for Brexit"

Both apparently true

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 11:24 am

Having spent more than a tenner in my overgenorisity at cafe with parents I went into a panic attack briefly but recovered.An improvement in some ways last time I fainted.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 11:28 am

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/msn/brex ... ar-BBJt1oC" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Brexit: Theresa May accused of 'running scared' of Commons vote on UK staying in EU customs union

So much media coverage of empty, waffly speeches from ministers, we're missing what's happening - and what's not happening - in Parliament.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 11:29 am

Yeah but he attempts (failing)discombobulation/control by the on/off blocking thing.

Eric_WLothian · Post by **Eric_WLothian** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 11:31 am

Nigel Farage has vowed to return to frontline politics if the British public are given a second EU referendum.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 26221.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Guess who's lined up for QT this week!

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 11:31 am

Willow904 wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/msn/brex ... ar-BBJt1oC

Brexit: Theresa May accused of 'running scared' of Commons vote on UK staying in EU customs union
So much media coverage of empty, waffly speeches from ministers, we're missing what's happening - and what's not happening - in Parliament.

Yes - the waffly speeches and even the Chequers meeting are just sideshows put on to distract (with some success, it has to be admitted), really.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 11:33 am

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Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 11:41 am

PorFavor wrote:Was it something I said?

Maybe you would get more response with either

A good morfternoon

or

Top of the morfternoon to you

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 11:46 am

http://www.parliament.uk/business/commi ... =hootsuite" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Public Accounts Committee will examine the Adult Social Care Workforce on Wednesday 28 February 2018.

"There are currently 1.34 million jobs in adult care, shared between local authorities and the private sector. During 2016–17, the vacancy rate across the sector was 6.6%, with annual turnover in the workforce at 27.8%. Meanwhile, ‘informal care’ from family and friends is said to be worth about £100 billion to the UK economy."

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 11:46 am

I am sorry for responding to being called a moron on two separate days but I have been told to report posts if they were a problem but it doesn't stop

I have said before that trolling should not be tolerated. So if he is a troll then ban him.

If not then I will reply to his nonsense, I tried ignoring as well and that doesn't work either

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 11:52 am

Willow904 wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/msn/brex ... ar-BBJt1oC

Brexit: Theresa May accused of 'running scared' of Commons vote on UK staying in EU customs union
So much media coverage of empty, waffly speeches from ministers, we're missing what's happening - and what's not happening - in Parliament.

This is the type of reporting that annoys me

She is not worried about this vote.

She is worried about the one on 'a customs union'

There are two amendments

See the Grieve interview and it will say why

Labour will not vote for 'the EU Customs Union' at the moment, if ever

This is one of the reasons the debate is so poor on Brexit - the political commentators do not seem to want to understand the nuances. The lawyers in the HoC do which is why we get these seemingly pedantic discussions

Personally I do not see what is so difficult to understand

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 12:09 pm

We have from time to time asked in anyone else would like to join the doughty band of administrators.

Remember the three you have all have full time jobs and other responsibilities

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 12:16 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:We have from time to time asked in anyone else would lie to join the doughty band of administrators.

Remember the three you have all have full time jobs and other responsibilities

Get your drift!

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 12:18 pm

Speaking of drifts - I'm a bit put out by the forecasted snowfall for my neck of the woods.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 12:22 pm

I know we don't do polls, but

New YouGov/Times poll has LAB lead at 2%
CON 40% =
LAB 42%+1

Doesn't look like check the Czech cheque at Chequers has gone that well for Mrs May