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Re: Monday 26th February 2018

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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:George Osborne backs Jeremy Corbyn!
good gawd
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:George Osborne backs Jeremy Corbyn!
Like the rope backs the hanged man, I presume.

Never trust him, whatever he does or says.
Agreed
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Turn the page, people!
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You just have ;)
"IS TONTY BLAIR BEHIND THIS???!!!!111???!!!"
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:You just have ;)
excellent
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help yourselves to the chocolate
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Dominic Grieve on BBC News right now pouring cold water on the idea being able to negotiate our own trade deals could ever be worth losing the benefit of a Customs Union with the EU and basically backing Labour's position over the government's .
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Monday 26 February 2018 / 10:56 AM Brexit / Jeremy Corbyn / Press Releases
Jeremy Corbyn FULL speech on Britain after Brexit

https://labour.org.uk/press/jeremy-corb ... in-brexit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Just finished reading Corbyn's speech
I've not looked at any other press yet
the EU negotiating team want to know what the UK wants
They'll find coherent, reasonable cooperation from Labour
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David Allen Green‏
@davidallengreen

The government confirms it will not join the customs union proposed by Corbyn and instead UK will be in another form of customs union which will not be the Customs Union or any existing customs union but a new customs union, with the very same effect as the Customs Union.

Clear?
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Clear as mud :-)
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There's lots to enjoy on this report about Toby Young's appointment and then resignation from the Office for Students.

https://publicappointmentscommissioner. ... Final-.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I particularly like the bit in s.24 about trawling for anything on social media...
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Union's a bit too, you know, lefty, really.
Maybe something more like a Gentleman's Customs Club?
(Or saw some mention of a Customs Unicorn, earlier)
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 26056.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Theresa May will hand out the £1bn in her “cash for votes” deal with the Democratic Unionist Party without MPs’ prior approval, The Independent can reveal, putting the Government at risk of legal action.
The Commons will only vote after slices of the funds have been allocated to Northern Ireland , and will be denied a single vote on the overall £1bn – despite the Government conceding last year that Parliament’s “authorisation” is needed.
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tinybgoat wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 26056.html
Theresa May will hand out the £1bn in her “cash for votes” deal with the Democratic Unionist Party without MPs’ prior approval, The Independent can reveal, putting the Government at risk of legal action.
The Commons will only vote after slices of the funds have been allocated to Northern Ireland , and will be denied a single vote on the overall £1bn – despite the Government conceding last year that Parliament’s “authorisation” is needed.
No problem TBG, she's going to get KPMG to audit the petty cash, they are shit-hot :-)
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Off to read Crace !

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -brexit-eu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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frog222 wrote:Off to read Crace !

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -brexit-eu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I think he genuinely struggles with Labour as his target because he just ends up sounding like a serious Telegraph journalist commenting on the same event ;-)
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
frog222 wrote:Off to read Crace !

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -brexit-eu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I think he genuinely struggles with Labour as his target because he just ends up sounding like a serious Telegraph journalist commenting on the same event ;-)
I'm simple-minded, he quite often makes me laugh , reminding us of fings ...

"" What goes around, comes around. Less than a year ago, the three Labour Coventry MPs had come to the city’s university to hear Gordon Brown campaign on their behalf during the general election. Not once in the course of that hour-long event was Jeremy Corbyn mentioned. The name was considered just too toxic. Now those same three Labour MPs were back at the same university to give the Labour leader their undivided attention and support as he made his bid to become the next prime minister.""

Obviously untrue ?
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
frog222 wrote:Off to read Crace !

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -brexit-eu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I think he genuinely struggles with Labour as his target because he just ends up sounding like a serious Telegraph journalist commenting on the same event ;-)
Yeah...
I love Crace, he's a brilliant satirist
For the bite to work, it's got to contain truth
The digs are thin
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Corbyn's speech today stood right next to Labour's Manifesto without either of them falling down
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -and-smart" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

the-guardian-view-on-labours-custom-union-plan-realistic-and-smart

Somehow even more surprising than Osborne :twisted:
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -and-smart

the-guardian-view-on-labours-custom-union-plan-realistic-and-smart

Somehow even more surprising than Osborne :twisted:
Well, Osborne's a rather nasty but not-stupid creep who has seen that the Tories are missing the boat . But unfortunately ,for HIM, he'll remain Austerity Osborne.

IF Labour have a brain in their head ...

This bit is not quite accurate, as Hammond and others do not follow the BoJo /Fox/Gove fantasies --

" The Tories have also bought the fiction that global deals with China or the US could replace trade flows with Europe. This fallacy is built on the idea that the UK could undercut and deregulate its way to growth. Labour recognises this is not possible nor desirable. Instead, it is refreshingly realistic and hard-nosed."

But in so far as TMay goes along with the hard Brexiters , the self-styled tough negotiators, she ends up in their camp.
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -and-smart

the-guardian-view-on-labours-custom-union-plan-realistic-and-smart

Somehow even more surprising than Osborne :twisted:
I liked this piece from the Guardian
It continues publishing all sorts, some of it I laugh at
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Tories seek legal advice on vote after Jeremy Corbyn backs customs union

Pro-Brexit MPs risk losing future vote on trade with EU after speech by Labour leader (Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... xit-speech
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PorFavor wrote:
Tories seek legal advice on vote after Jeremy Corbyn backs customs union

Pro-Brexit MPs risk losing future vote on trade with EU after speech by Labour leader (Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... xit-speech
What's going on for Rees-Mogg quoted in the article? I can't figure him out.
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Night night.
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
frog222 wrote:Off to read Crace !

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -brexit-eu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I think he genuinely struggles with Labour as his target because he just ends up sounding like a serious Telegraph journalist commenting on the same event ;-)[mi/quote]
. After a bit about Labour backing a jobs-first Brexit – has any party every backed an unemployment-first Brexit? – Corbyn got to his big sell.
I can't always work out when he's being serious.
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citizenJA wrote:
PorFavor wrote:
Tories seek legal advice on vote after Jeremy Corbyn backs customs union

Pro-Brexit MPs risk losing future vote on trade with EU after speech by Labour leader (Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... xit-speech
What's going on for Rees-Mogg quoted in the article? I can't figure him out.
I think he's just ignoring what Corbyn said about having some say in the Customs Union and not just being an observer. Rees-Mogg is fighting yesterday's battles (again).
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PorFavor wrote:Night night.
Goodnight, PorFavor
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Thank you, PfY, I thought the same.
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Goodnight, everyone
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