Friday 2nd March 2018

Post by **refitman** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 7:10 am

Morning all.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 7:17 am

Morning.

Defrosting head in microwave.

The last mile wasn't so bad it was the first exposed to the elements two where I nearly took off;did consider flapping my arms in attempt to fly home but I haven't got my pilots' licence.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 7:18 am

All these years and I never knew my head was detachable.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 7:37 am

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... -nao-warns" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Continue to penalise care/self care/otherwise hospital based treatments and charge the "burdensome" ever more that'll help.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 7:46 am

May have overdone my head,I couldn't see how long I put it in for,in my defence.Should have set then detached,of course.Lesson for the future.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 7:50 am

Experimenting with other parts as to detachability

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 8:38 am

Morning All

Some great posts late last night if folk haven't been back to look

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 8:45 am

Laura Kuenssberg
@bbclaurak

the crucial bit - Grayling says she will 'set out the things we can't have' - end of cake and eat it ?

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 8:47 am

HindleA wrote:Experimenting with other parts as to detachability

[youtube]CQwgOHyv4TE[/youtube]

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 8:49 am

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Laura Kuenssberg
@bbclaurak

the crucial bit - Grayling says she will 'set out the things we can't have' - end of cake and eat it ?

When he says she, doesn't he mean they?

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 8:56 am

Much as Laura Kuenssberg annoys me, I often find her writing quite impressive.

Not this time

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43250039" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What a load of drivel.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 9:21 am

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... and-labour" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Can Theresa May set out a viable Brexit vision? If not Labour is ready
Keir Starmer

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 9:30 am

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... her-travel" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 9:45 am

Morning all.

No snow overnight and no sign of thawing either. Very breezy but I might venture out to go swimming this afternoon.

Interesting bit of re-positioning here.

Exclusive: School autonomy group wants to become the voice for academies

https://www.tes.com/news/school-news/br ... -academies" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

An organisation that campaigns for school autonomy is seeking to transform itself into a trade association to lobby on behalf of the academy sector.

There are currently 2,700 academy trusts, ranging in size from one school to more than 60, but there are concerns that the DfE often consults only a limited number of favoured organisations.

Now Fasna – the Freedom and Autonomy for Schools National Association, which traces its origins back to 1992 – wants to become an organisation that can speak on behalf of the whole sector.

How about "We lost the argument over school autonomy since so many MATs tell their schools what to do, so now we'd like to be the head of the MAT group instead."

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 10:12 am

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Laura Kuenssberg
@bbclaurak

the crucial bit - Grayling says she will 'set out the things we can't have' - end of cake and eat it ?

Looks like more of the same to me.

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PM’s Big Brexit speech in London at 130pm... she will set “five tests” of the Brexit deal
1. Respect the referendum
2. An agreement that endures
3. Protect jobs and security
4. Consistent with open outward-looking European democracy
5. Strengthen the union

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gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 10:18 am

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Morning All

Some great posts late last night if folk haven't been back to look

I watched more than 5 minutes of QT myself, unusually, there did seem to be a surprising number of remainers in the audience, who cheered Ken Clarke - and then roundly booed him when he said fracking was the way to revive the local economy.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 10:24 am

Good-morning, everyone

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 10:27 am

gilsey wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Laura Kuenssberg
@bbclaurak

the crucial bit - Grayling says she will 'set out the things we can't have' - end of cake and eat it ?
Looks like more of the same to me.
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PM’s Big Brexit speech in London at 130pm... she will set “five tests” of the Brexit deal
1. Respect the referendum
2. An agreement that endures
3. Protect jobs and security
4. Consistent with open outward-looking European democracy
5. Strengthen the union
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I note there are two versions of Test 4 in circulation. The other says "consistent with the kind of country we want to be".

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 10:32 am

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
gilsey wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Laura Kuenssberg
@bbclaurak

the crucial bit - Grayling says she will 'set out the things we can't have' - end of cake and eat it ?
Looks like more of the same to me.
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PM’s Big Brexit speech in London at 130pm... she will set “five tests” of the Brexit deal
1. Respect the referendum
2. An agreement that endures
3. Protect jobs and security
4. Consistent with open outward-looking European democracy
5. Strengthen the union
" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I note there are two versions of Test 4 in circulation. The other says "consistent with the kind of country we want to be".

Apparently test 4 actually includes both bits.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 10:35 am

Good morfternoon.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 10:37 am

A former Perm Sec at the treasury writes...

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In run up to Maastricht, UK was 100% focused on treaty text. Now it favours speech over substance, leaving it to EU to make all the running.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 10:54 am

Learners let down by Learndirect, say MPs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/education-43241486?

The government has been criticised for its role in giving millions of pounds of taxpayers' money to a UK training provider accused of failing to deliver.

The House of Commons Public Accounts Committee says Learndirect Ltd has failed to tackle its poor performance, letting thousands of learners down.

The committee says the situation raises concerns about government outsourcing services to private companies.

The government said it "continued to monitor" Learndirect's performance.

The PAC report says that, in the wake of the collapse of construction giant Carillion , questions are "rightly being asked about how government manages companies who deliver our public services".

Government shrugs shoulders and continues to do the same in the name of "public sector reform"

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 10:56 am

PaulfromYorkshire wrote: Apparently test 4 actually includes both bits.

Islam has tweeted the paragraphs, if you click the link.

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 11:25 am

Someone here cares about Orient, I think?

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Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 11:49 am

Morning.

It was pretty chaotic in North East Somerset yesterday as #StormEmma hit earlier than forecast, though we weren't as badly hit as southern Somerset.

Everyone's snowed in today with all buses cancelled and schools shut.

With people struggling just to get about, the Tory obsession with Europe has never seemed so self-indulgent and irrelevant to most people's lives.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 12:39 pm

All yesterday's by-elections went ahead, some comedy turnouts but no real surprises.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 12:58 pm

Talking of comedy turns, it's nearly time for the great speech!

Remember this was meant to be the culmination of the 'Road to Brexit' series of speeches by May (in Munich), Boris, Fox, Lidington then May again.

I find I can't recall anything of interest from that series, not even a mugwump popinjay comment from Johnson.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 1:24 pm

Six minutes to go. The suspense is killing me (that's if the cold doesn't get me first).

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 1:35 pm

PorFavor wrote:Six minutes to go. The suspense is killing me (that's if the cold doesn't get me first).

It seems 'Our Future Partnership' is located in Kazakhstan, according to May's map.

GetYou · Post by **GetYou** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 1:47 pm

On point 2, it would have helped to create an enduring negotiation if you'd actually bothered for the past year or so. Moron.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 1:54 pm

We'll always have Florence . . .

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 1:56 pm

She's doing the old "this is the first time I've seen this speech" routine. Terrible delivery - not to mention the content.

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 2:05 pm

Weather report.

It hasn't snowed much here since yesterday morning but the wind is still arctic, mr gilsey cleared the drive and saw one of the local farmers who said the roads were ok, so we've been to the co-op for bread and milk. They'd had a Warburtons delivery which was almost sold out but no own brand at all, milk running low and not much veg. Depends where the deliveries are coming from, I suppose.

It's only 4 miles away but there's only about a quarter of the depth of snow we have here and nowhere near as windy.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 2:07 pm

She says she wants the “broadest and deepest possible partnership.

We already have the broadest and deepest possible partnership as a member of the EU. Anything we end up with is going to be less broad and not as deep as we have now. So much talk about the things the UK government want to stay the same, so little detail about what they want to change.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 2:07 pm

gilsey wrote:Weather report.

It hasn't snowed much here since yesterday morning but the wind is still arctic, mr gilsey cleared the drive and saw one of the local farmers who said the roads were ok, so we've been to the co-op for bread and milk. They'd had a Warburtons delivery which was almost sold out but no own brand at all, milk running low and not much veg. Depends where the deliveries are coming from, I suppose.

It's only 4 miles away but there's only about a quarter of the depth of snow we have here and nowhere near as windy.

One of the local farmers was buried in the snow in your drive? Blimey - that's bad.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 2:09 pm

Dear God - she's just fluffed one of the most important bits (Ireland\border).

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 2:17 pm

I occasionally think that Charles de Gaulle had a point . . .

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 2:21 pm

Wonder How long does she thinks this would all take.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 2:22 pm

As one door closes another one opens. Apparently.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 2:25 pm

The message is clear (?).

GetYou · Post by **GetYou** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 2:25 pm

tinybgoat wrote:Wonder How long does she thinks this would all take.

It's OK, she's taking a faith-based approach to this.

GetYou · Post by **GetYou** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 2:26 pm

"Let's get on with it" GTF you amateur

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 2:27 pm

PorFavor wrote:As one door closes another one opens. Apparently.

Yes but it's taken them 18 months even to notice where the handle is...

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 2:29 pm

Did i mishear it, or did Robert Peston just introduce himself as "Robert Peston, BBC"?

GetYou · Post by **GetYou** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 2:32 pm

So, in answer to Faizal's question, no solution to the Irish border question. And no, you haven't set out ways in which you can do just that, you just keep promising you might do in the future.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 2:32 pm

2:20pm - "Nothing happening weather wise and road looks clear - I'll go swimming and take the car"

2:30pm "Oh look....snowing again"

Sorry everyone...

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 2:35 pm

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RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 2:35 pm

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She's clear you know. About being clear.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 2:36 pm

"The pump don't work 'cause the vandals took the..

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 02 Mar, 2018 2:37 pm