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Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 7:12 am
by refitman
Morning all.

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 7:28 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... -in-return" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


NHS staff set to win 6.5% pay rise but must forfeit day's holiday in return

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 7:32 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... cups-waste" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tories lambasted for rejecting 'latte levy' on takeaway coffee cups

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 8:27 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
Good thread on why Liam Fox is a *****

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***** choose your own insult :twisted:

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 8:29 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
Miserable night for the Tories in by-elections :twisted:

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 8:32 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
If I've got it right we have

2 x Lab gain from Tory
2 x Ind gain from Tory
1 x Lib gain from Tory
1 x Ind gain from Lab
2 x Lab hold

but wait for the proper round up later ;-)

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 8:34 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
Yes that's right. Tories were defending 5 seats last night and lost them ALL

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 9:50 am
by tinybgoat
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Good thread on why Liam Fox is a *****

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***** choose your own insult :twisted:
is 'a real Liam Fox' insulting enough?

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 10:00 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
tinybgoat wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Good thread on why Liam Fox is a *****

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***** choose your own insult :twisted:
is 'a real Liam Fox' insulting enough?
Fair point!

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 10:10 am
by gilsey
HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... -in-return


NHS staff set to win 6.5% pay rise but must forfeit day's holiday in return
Whose idea was that I wonder, losing a day's holiday. It's as if they just have to go the extra mile for meanness.
I wouldn't say 6.5% over 3 years is generous in the first place.

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 10:24 am
by gilsey
Brexit is a cover up by UK Government for failures to tackle other issues, warns business chief
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 45306.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Government must focus on fixing the basics, including improving roads, railways and airports, boosting housing supply and simplifying the immigration system, he will tell the BCC annual conference.
Those who suggest that the solution to poor procurement and questionable outsourcing decisions by government is the wholesale nationalisation of entire swathes of the economy must also be challenged.
"Facing down the superficially seductive argument for nationalisation won't be easy - but it's vital to the future success of communities and prosperity all across the UK."
I'd say, if the business community want that infrastructure, they need Labour in govt, and a bit of nationalisation at the margin will be a small price to pay.

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 11:06 am
by HindleA
https://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2018 ... n-red.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Tangled up in red

Mainlymacro

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 11:07 am
by HindleA
[youtube]YwSZvHqf9qM[/youtube]

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 11:08 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
HindleA wrote:https://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2018 ... n-red.html


Tangled up in red

Mainlymacro
Eternal pudding

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 11:31 am
by AnatolyKasparov
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:If I've got it right we have

2 x Lab gain from Tory
2 x Ind gain from Tory
1 x Lib gain from Tory
1 x Ind gain from Lab
2 x Lab hold

but wait for the proper round up later ;-)
Confirmed, and several of the Tory losses were unexpected.

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 11:34 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:If I've got it right we have

2 x Lab gain from Tory
2 x Ind gain from Tory
1 x Lib gain from Tory
1 x Ind gain from Lab
2 x Lab hold

but wait for the proper round up later ;-)
Confirmed, and several of the Tory losses were unexpected.
I'm so hoping this continues through to May!

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 11:34 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
I meant the month, but could be read the other way too ;-)

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 12:22 pm
by HindleA
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Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 12:26 pm
by HindleA
Pre-gin shrivelled PF there in happier times.

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 12:27 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
This year's elections will be bad for the Tories, but the way things are going 2019 could be utter carnage.

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 12:34 pm
by HindleA
If you avoided work for the first six hours how can it be described as a day off.The "reversal' thing is confusing ie.morning when evening,dinner when midnight etc.

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 12:50 pm
by HindleA
"Buddy" currently in the lead over "pal" with "bro(ther) some way back in third

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 12:54 pm
by HindleA
https://www.smartsurvey.co.uk/s/CSAsurvey/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


The Big Social Care Survey

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 12:57 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/ ... say-labour" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Tories have cost households £1,000 in energy bills, say Labour
Labour says extra costs could have been avoided if Conservative government had intervened earlier to stop suppliers raising prices

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 1:15 pm
by HindleA
Have to wear a hi-vis,though no pretend brick laying thus far.

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 1:20 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
#WriteAPoemAboutBBCQT

is quite good ;-)

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 1:42 pm
by citizenJA
Good-afternoon, everyone

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 1:48 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... ok-out-for" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Paralympics 2018: 10 potential highlights at the Winter Games

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 1:53 pm
by citizenJA
Kim Jong Un and Donald Trump meeting
They'll become friends and tour together

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 1:55 pm
by citizenJA
That's fine with me
Keep them both out of trouble
I'll even buy their book

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 2:28 pm
by HindleA
[youtube]d-diB65scQU[/youtube]

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 4:29 pm
by HindleA
Bleeding PF attention seeking again typical.

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 4:57 pm
by refitman
This is depressing, but illuminating.

http://www.coppolacomment.com/2018/03/t ... onics.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 5:03 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
https://skwawkbox.org/2018/03/09/no-10- ... -attended/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

no-10-refuses-to-say-how-long-rough-sleeping-task-force-met-or-how-many-attended

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 5:29 pm
by HindleA
They've been pretty successful in recreating what was to all intents and purposes pretty much eliminated,to be fair.

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 5:36 pm
by HindleA
https://labour.org.uk/press/jeremy-corb ... onference/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Corbyn speech to Scottish Conference

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 6:19 pm
by frog222
https://www.alternet.org/sites/default/ ... zpp0-w.png" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Image

https://www.alternet.org/world/america- ... -pipelines" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Vast reserves of energy , geostrategy, oil and gas pipelines, Nafeez Ahmed on form !

EDIT : plus a section on the history of nuclear strategies ... and future possibilities ...

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 6:21 pm
by citizenJA
HindleA wrote:Bleeding PF attention seeking again typical.
Off she goes - Monaco! I talked her out of a flight to Ephemerid, she sends her love.

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 6:23 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
HindleA wrote:https://labour.org.uk/press/jeremy-corb ... onference/

Corbyn speech to Scottish Conference
Thanks I enjoyed it.

This paragraph jumped out at me
It’s striking that Theresa May’s only clear priority when she laid out her new Brexit negotiating position last week seemed to be to tie the UK permanently to EU rules, which are used to drive privatisation and block support for British industry.
I know Corbyn is often challenged on this issue and I'm not qualified to really know, but it is an interesting analysis.

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 7:03 pm
by citizenJA
refitman wrote:This is depressing, but illuminating.

http://www.coppolacomment.com/2018/03/t ... onics.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The financial complexity of businesses is utterly bewildering. I don't think it should be so convoluted and opaque.

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 7:20 pm
by citizenJA
HindleA wrote:https://labour.org.uk/press/jeremy-corb ... onference/

Corbyn speech to Scottish Conference
"...Theresa May has now admitted, under her plans for a reckless Tory Brexit the UK risks losing access to European markets. Make no mistake about it, reduced access to European markets means fewer economic opportunities for people in the UK.

This is why we need a Labour government to take the reins from the free market ideologues who want to use Brexit to sign a race-to-the-bottom trade deal with Trump’s America and turn the UK into a deregulated offshore tax haven. And instead take the new common sense into the heart of government and help bring about a society that truly does work for all. Labour is the only party focusing on the issues that matter to people in their everyday lives, and the only party committed to putting power back into every community in the UK.

When it comes to Brexit Labour’s priorities have been clear from the outset. We will fight for a deal that puts jobs and living standards first."

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 7:22 pm
by refitman
citizenJA wrote:
refitman wrote:This is depressing, but illuminating.

http://www.coppolacomment.com/2018/03/t ... onics.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The financial complexity of businesses is utterly bewildering. I don't think it should be so convoluted and opaque.
I had no idea we were technically insolvent on at least 1 occasion.

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 7:30 pm
by citizenJA
refitman wrote:
citizenJA wrote:
refitman wrote:This is depressing, but illuminating.

http://www.coppolacomment.com/2018/03/t ... onics.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The financial complexity of businesses is utterly bewildering. I don't think it should be so convoluted and opaque.
I had no idea we were technically insolvent on at least 1 occasion.
your position necessitated knowing whether it was or not
I'd feel betrayed, conned, if it were me
apologies if I've misunderstood

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 7:34 pm
by citizenJA
"Added to the prospects of both economic and constitutional crises the government’s dangerous risking of peace in Northern Ireland offering no clear alternative to a hard border on the island as it refuses to consider the option of a customs union shows why a Labour government is needed so badly to steer the negotiations in a sensible direction.

Because as well as being a democratic socialist Party Labour is also an internationalist Party.

We realise that the great problems of our age: fighting for people’s rights and living standards against the power of international capital; ending the incessant destruction of our climate and our natural world; clamping down on rich tax dodgers who hide their excessive wealth and refuse to pay their way; and defending international human rights that have been fought for and defended by people on the ground for generations.

These are problems which individual nations cannot deal with alone."

https://labour.org.uk/press/jeremy-corb ... onference/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:rock:

Do read the entire speech

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 7:37 pm
by citizenJA
Corbyn's speech is detailed and coherent regarding Brexit
I'm reassured

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 9:26 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Why does it always go quiet on here around this time these days?

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 10:15 pm
by citizenJA
where's tinyclanger2?
It's disco night

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 10:16 pm
by citizenJA
Goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Fri 09 Mar, 2018 10:32 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
citizenJA wrote:where's tinyclanger2?
It's disco night
Have they been posting recently?

Re: Friday 9th March 2018

Posted: Sat 10 Mar, 2018 6:15 am
by HindleA
Excuse musings.I was the runt of the family,barely survived,thankfully the widespread support for eugenicism had rescinded.Worringly it is on the ascendence again,not always obvious or clearly stated but when you get people trying to end their own relatives lives on their projected "quality of life" reasons-I must assume genuinely held though the oft repeated line of I would rather die if x disappears if x occurs in my thirty five years employment and personal experience I would bear that in mind in thinking about assisted dying or State sanctioning of killing,which it is.