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Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 7:36 am
by HindleA
Morning

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 7:40 am
by HindleA
[youtube]cZTtQT3ymF8[/youtube]

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 7:49 am
by HindleA
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... ns#history" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Consultation outcome

Accountable care models contract: proposed changes to regulations

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 7:51 am
by HindleA
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... sultations" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Consultation outcome

Funding for supported housing - two consultations

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 7:53 am
by howsillyofme1
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Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 8:20 am
by HindleA
You let yourself down with the Labour right mention,we are all individuals IMHO .

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 8:22 am
by HindleA
Ie why use the same tactic.

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 8:32 am
by HindleA
Hope my habit,isn't catching.

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 8:33 am
by HindleA
I am waffling,semi awake/asleep I wouldn't take that much notice.

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 8:35 am
by howsillyofme1
HindleA wrote:I am waffling,semi awake/asleep I wouldn't take that much notice.
Too late!

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 8:42 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eal-europe" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Brexit: UK should not rule out free trade deal with Europe, say MPs
Cross-party committee divided over recommendation to remain in EEA or join Efta

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 8:43 am
by HindleA
https://www.parliament.uk/business/comm ... hed-17-19/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 9:47 am
by PorFavor
Good morfternoon.

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 10:15 am
by gilsey
HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eal-europe


Brexit: UK should not rule out free trade deal with Europe, say MPs
Cross-party committee divided over recommendation to remain in EEA or join Efta
Reading that from 'Rees-Mogg' onwards is like :wall:

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 10:23 am
by gilsey
This is about submissions to the govt on post-brexit immigration policy.
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news ... anies.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Many of the remarks are much more hard-hitting than previous public statements from big businesses, which have tended to be bland and non-committal.
I've been very disappointed about how little we've heard from business, given that they should have a much better grasp than the average punter of the implications for trade of leaving the EU, and even now they're only getting excited about labour shortages.
They must still think the tories are their party.

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 12:33 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
HindleA wrote:[youtube]cZTtQT3ymF8[/youtube]
Those who haven't already done so should seek out RFK's speech the night after King was assassinated, too.

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 1:06 pm
by Willow904
Is Johnson in trouble?

Or will the clear up crew brush yet another major cock-up under the carpet? He clearly doesn't listen to briefings properly (the confusion he introduced into the Zaghari-Ratcliffe case by misunderstanding the facts of the case, being a tragic example) yet he blusters away with unbelievable self-confidence with only a very slim grasp of the details. He seems to have taken assurances from scientists at Porton Down that there was "no doubt" the nerve agent used was Novichok and put this together with security intelligence that suggests it was highly likely to have come from Russia and ended up with a statement of definite Russian guilt which simply hasn't been made by anyone else in government.

There's a rash of activity from government this morning explaining what he meant with his poorly chosen words, and the explanations in themselves are perfectly plausible, but they ultimately underline Johnson's basic incompetence in his handling of this matter. He really has to go. Yet he won't, will he?

And conspiracy theories that Russia is being framed will simply grow and grow and I don't see how that helps anyone. The Russian state remains the most likely suspect and taking steps to limit and reduce dodgy Russian money and influence within the UK remains a priority. We need pressure on May to introduce the Magnitsky amendment and I don't see how racheting up doubt about Russia's likely guilt in the Skripal poisoning helps that. Boris Johnson's cackhanded and sloppy approach to all this has been extremely unhelpful.

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 1:09 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Sooner or later his slapdash irresponsibility *has* to catch up with him.

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 1:17 pm
by Willow904
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Sooner or later his slapdash irresponsibility *has* to catch up with him.
Please let it be sooner rather than later!

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 1:59 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
Willow904 wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Sooner or later his slapdash irresponsibility *has* to catch up with him.
Please let it be sooner rather than later!
I remember highlighting at the time the very careful wording along the lines of "a chemical agent of a type produced in Russia".

If you then omit the "of a type", the meaning changes quite a bit.

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 2:03 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
In passing, has anyone heard any updates on the Debbie Abrahams situation?

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 2:21 pm
by Willow904
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:In passing, has anyone heard any updates on the Debbie Abrahams situation?
No, nothing.

But investigating accusations and coming to conclusions seems to proceed at a glacial pace within Labour so I don't suppose the situation will be resolved any time soon.

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 3:32 pm
by HindleA
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Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 4:20 pm
by citizenJA
PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.
Howdy, everyone

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 4:36 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Willow904 wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:In passing, has anyone heard any updates on the Debbie Abrahams situation?
No, nothing.

But investigating accusations and coming to conclusions seems to proceed at a glacial pace within Labour so I don't suppose the situation will be resolved any time soon.
Jennie Formby officially took over as party GS today, hopefully she can shake things up a bit.

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 5:09 pm
by citizenJA
Willow904 wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Sooner or later his slapdash irresponsibility *has* to catch up with him.
Please let it be sooner rather than later!
Ursula LeGuin wrote:"And at last, when he had to face the implacable, he seemed to act in a kind of panic.
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It was recklessness meeting the reckoning.
"

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 6:03 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Willow904 wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:In passing, has anyone heard any updates on the Debbie Abrahams situation?
No, nothing.

But investigating accusations and coming to conclusions seems to proceed at a glacial pace within Labour so I don't suppose the situation will be resolved any time soon.
Jennie Formby officially took over as party GS today, hopefully she can shake things up a bit.
Thanks for the responses :-)

Re: Wednesday 4th April 2018

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 10:47 pm
by adam
According to a story in the Independent, Momentum now has more paid up members than the Green Party