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Free school meals under universal credit
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Free school meals under universal credit
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Good-morning, everyone
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HindleA wrote:https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/12892
Free school meals under universal credit
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And this comment from Schools Week...
I wonder why that could be?Freddie Whittaker
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More Freddie Whittaker Retweeted Freddie Whittaker
It’s telling that the DfE didn’t respond to this by the time it was published. 99% of the time, we get a response to midnight embargo stories before publication. This one? Nada.
Morning all.
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How does Internet-registered signatures without witnesses provide a more secure service, please? Serious question....first digitally signed mortgage...
Today, the first digital mortgage deed was entered into the Land Register. Part of the ‘Sign your mortgage deed’ service, HM Land Registry is building for a future without the need for a witness to watch as the homeowner applies an ink signature to a paper mortgage deed, saving time and providing a more secure service to homeowners, lenders and conveyancers.
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Incidentally, I assume that the people raising questions about a gender pay gap on the ground that it's not looking at comparable jobs will be first in line to say the same when next the "public sector pay is more than the private sector" point is raised.
They will, won't they?
They will, won't they?
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Yesterday I was mostly visiting these friends
I still believe in a town called Hope
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@Adam
Did you see TinyClanger2?
Did you see TinyClanger2?
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Who's that in the front of the musical boat?PaulfromYorkshire wrote:@Adam
Did you see TinyClanger2?
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TinyClanger1?adam wrote:Who's that in the front of the musical boat?PaulfromYorkshire wrote:@Adam
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Lovely friends, adam
You had a good time?
You had a good time?
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I wish they would.RogerOThornhill wrote:Incidentally, I assume that the people raising questions about a gender pay gap on the ground that it's not looking at comparable jobs will be first in line to say the same when next the "public sector pay is more than the private sector" point is raised.
They will, won't they?
It's in all our best interests identifying with each other and recognising fairness isn't a zero-sum endeavour.
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Speech to SHA AGM 2018
by Debbie Abrahams
Speech to SHA AGM 2018
by Debbie Abrahams
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Great speech.HindleA wrote:https://www.sochealth.co.uk/2018/04/04/ ... -agm-2018/
Speech to SHA AGM 2018
by Debbie Abrahams
I still remain puzzled by her rather quiet fall from grace.
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It was great - it's an exhibition of designs and puppets from children's television, which is on at the Wolvo art gallery until the end of the month. There was a whole room dedicated to Firmin and Postgate including the Clangers, Ivor the Engine, Bagpuss and Noggin the Nog - also this friend, made by Firmin, with a note thanking my brother in law for lending it to them (his dad was the creator/voice/puppeteer).citizenJA wrote:Lovely friends, adam
You had a good time?
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Most of the story is behind their paywall but the Telegraph is reporting that the London Conservative party is considering declaring UDI and effectively existing as a different party.
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Sounds a bit like how local Libdem parties started setting up "independent" groups called "...name-of-town...First" to disassociate themselves from the national Liberal Democrat party during the Coalition years when standing for county and parish council elections.adam wrote:Most of the story is behind their paywall but the Telegraph is reporting that the London Conservative party is considering declaring UDI and effectively existing as a different party.
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Finding myself quoting Chilcot at folk on Twitter!
"intelligence regarding weapons of mass destruction was presented with unwarranted certainty"
Will we never learn?
"intelligence regarding weapons of mass destruction was presented with unwarranted certainty"
Will we never learn?
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I think politicians are always eager for that 'Falklands' moment.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Finding myself quoting Chilcot at folk on Twitter!
"intelligence regarding weapons of mass destruction was presented with unwarranted certainty"
Will we never learn?
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I agree, though I think May was desperate rather than eagerohsocynical wrote:I think politicians are always eager for that 'Falklands' moment.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Finding myself quoting Chilcot at folk on Twitter!
"intelligence regarding weapons of mass destruction was presented with unwarranted certainty"
Will we never learn?
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Dear Jeremy,
We must avoid bumping into each other and having a chat. The media have taken on the job of selecting appropriate Jews and I don’t think I’m the right sort.
Best wishes, Michael
Dear Jeremy,
We must avoid bumping into each other and having a chat. The media have taken on the job of selecting appropriate Jews and I don’t think I’m the right sort.
Best wishes, Michael
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Portes retweeted this
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People shouldn't fall for it if it happens.adam wrote:Most of the story is behind their paywall but the Telegraph is reporting that the London Conservative party is considering declaring UDI and effectively existing as a different party.
The party in Scotland was very good at presenting itself as "different" under Davidson, but since the GE the Scots Tory MPs have done May's bidding almost uncritically.
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Boris Johnson has performed the rare act of pissing inside the tent as well as outside of it.
Boris Johnson has performed the rare act of pissing inside the tent as well as outside of it.
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Notable how dissatisfaction with the BBC's handling of politics/current affairs issues seems to be reaching critical mass now.
Its not just the hardened Corbynistas any more........
Its not just the hardened Corbynistas any more........
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Yes justified p*** taking out of one BBC reporter (military "expert"?) last night who said they'd looked everywhere for the Johnson quote and couldn't find it, when in fact it had just been shown on another BBC programmeAnatolyKasparov wrote:Notable how dissatisfaction with the BBC's handling of politics/current affairs issues seems to be reaching critical mass now.
Its not just the hardened Corbynistas any more........
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I know I've highlighted this many times before, but as we discuss the BBC, here is the letter from the BBC to Seumas Milne after the complaint about the Stephen Doughty "on air" resignation.
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So whatever became of Robbie Gibb I wonder.......
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:So whatever became of Robbie Gibb I wonder.......
Some leftie thinktank I expect - revolving door between them and the BBC...oh wait...
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Some at high levels of the BBC are confirmed Tory supporters - as is well known - but I suspect more are keeping their noses clean because they fear what the Tories might do to them if they don't. But if they alienate so many previous supporters, who is going to stop that anyway?
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I hope you will allow allow a regular lurker of this fine community (am I allowed to say its improved enormously since the departure of one contributor) to pass comment on the BBC/Media issues related to above.
It has long been apparent to me that the BBC (although I have supported it until fairly recently) has become little better than a Fox news/Pravda outlet for the conditioning of the public mood to government thinking.
Until very recently my wife (who is not a political geek but does take an interest) has thought my view extreme. To confirm the point Anatoly made above she has now come to the conclusion that it has indeed become the state broadcaster being convinced by the BBC reporting (or lack of it) of the Novachuk affair. Her view.....little or no doubt from the BBC that the government line is to be shouted from the rooftops whilst not addressing the fact a significant proportion of the population have serious questions of that line.
The Newsnight attempt at absolving Boris Johnson last night pretty much convinced her of her revised view.
Frankly I am not sure they worry or care about this attitude as they are becoming so blatant about it.
To illustrate this I made the mistake of watching (at least for 5 minutes) the newspaper review on the BBC news channel last night. This consisted of Joanne Nadler described as a political journalist (Wikipedia tells me her husband works at conservative central office and she herself, a life long tory has been a conservative councillor in Wandsworth) and Jane Merrick Daily Telegraph contributor and best friend of the execrable Isobel Oakeshott towing the government line and laying into anybody that has the merest question mark about the veracity of the tory line.
Which leads me to try to think of anyone with a vaguely left wing point of view (Guardian journalist don't count) that has been seen on BBC (or Sky for that matter) news reviews in the past few months. I am struggling past Rachel Shabi. Anybody help me out? There must be more? Help me out here.
It has long been apparent to me that the BBC (although I have supported it until fairly recently) has become little better than a Fox news/Pravda outlet for the conditioning of the public mood to government thinking.
Until very recently my wife (who is not a political geek but does take an interest) has thought my view extreme. To confirm the point Anatoly made above she has now come to the conclusion that it has indeed become the state broadcaster being convinced by the BBC reporting (or lack of it) of the Novachuk affair. Her view.....little or no doubt from the BBC that the government line is to be shouted from the rooftops whilst not addressing the fact a significant proportion of the population have serious questions of that line.
The Newsnight attempt at absolving Boris Johnson last night pretty much convinced her of her revised view.
Frankly I am not sure they worry or care about this attitude as they are becoming so blatant about it.
To illustrate this I made the mistake of watching (at least for 5 minutes) the newspaper review on the BBC news channel last night. This consisted of Joanne Nadler described as a political journalist (Wikipedia tells me her husband works at conservative central office and she herself, a life long tory has been a conservative councillor in Wandsworth) and Jane Merrick Daily Telegraph contributor and best friend of the execrable Isobel Oakeshott towing the government line and laying into anybody that has the merest question mark about the veracity of the tory line.
Which leads me to try to think of anyone with a vaguely left wing point of view (Guardian journalist don't count) that has been seen on BBC (or Sky for that matter) news reviews in the past few months. I am struggling past Rachel Shabi. Anybody help me out? There must be more? Help me out here.
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investigation into the Royal National Institute of Blind People, and subsidiary charity, with concerns about safeguarding at both charities
investigation into the Royal National Institute of Blind People, and subsidiary charity, with concerns about safeguarding at both charities
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As far as anniversaries go, Michael’s is not one to celebrate. This month marks one year since the government brought in one of its most controversial “welfare” policies: cutting the benefit for people too ill to work – Employment and Support Allowance – by £30 a week.
Far from the only one of course,another targeted one as from today.Caught in the nexus,you are fucked.At a fundamental level purposefully making it harder should appal all.
As far as anniversaries go, Michael’s is not one to celebrate. This month marks one year since the government brought in one of its most controversial “welfare” policies: cutting the benefit for people too ill to work – Employment and Support Allowance – by £30 a week.
Far from the only one of course,another targeted one as from today.Caught in the nexus,you are fucked.At a fundamental level purposefully making it harder should appal all.
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Illness as deviance/sinful.
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Binary,short term or die in a timely fashion,no in between.
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The cesspit of politicos minds.
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Owen Jones also gets a token Beeb lefties spot on occasion. But he and others of similar worldview are a lot likelier to be seen on Sky recently.
Which says enough in itself, really.
Which says enough in itself, really.
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No further comment needed.
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Sometimes all you can do is laugh.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Thanks Di for retweeting it
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Labour’s new General Secretary Jennie Formby made a strong start to her new role with a first-day email to all Labour members calling on them to work with her to unite the party for the good of the country, with a particular emphasis on addressing instances of antisemitism and other abuse – and laying out her roadmap to ensure all issues are dealt with fairly.
Two days later, she has followed that up with a communication to every one of Labour’s 600+ CLP (constituency Labour party) secretaries, asking them to make sure that all members understand how any discussions of these issues must be conducted:
https://skwawkbox.org/2018/04/05/formby ... -concerns/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Two days later, she has followed that up with a communication to every one of Labour’s 600+ CLP (constituency Labour party) secretaries, asking them to make sure that all members understand how any discussions of these issues must be conducted:
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Resident expert of #bbcnews just said the miraculous recovery of Yulia Skripal was because Porton Down would have had antidotes.
We were previously told there were no antidotes to Novochek.
They're making it up as they go along.
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They, Porton Down, can only produce an antidote if they've got #Novichock. Which I believe they said they didn't have....somebody has got a very fertile imagination. I understand Iran formulated #Novichock in 2016 to make an antidote. The first country to do so according to OPCW.
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Resident expert of #bbcnews just said the miraculous recovery of Yulia Skripal was because Porton Down would have had antidotes.
We were previously told there were no antidotes to Novochek.
They're making it up as they go along.
@delhi_dave
They, Porton Down, can only produce an antidote if they've got #Novichock. Which I believe they said they didn't have....somebody has got a very fertile imagination. I understand Iran formulated #Novichock in 2016 to make an antidote. The first country to do so according to OPCW.
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Goodnight, everyone
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Macron’s Thatcher moment has arrived
The honeymoon is over for Emmanuel Macron. His first 11 months in office have been something of a breeze —…
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The honeymoon is over for Emmanuel Macron. His first 11 months in office have been something of a breeze —…
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What were you saying about the Falklands?ohsocynical wrote:Macron’s Thatcher moment has arrived
The honeymoon is over for Emmanuel Macron. His first 11 months in office have been something of a breeze —…
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Good of BBC4 to wheel out a repeat of a 2016 documentary about historical dodgy practices at Porton Down.
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Thirty bob and a weekend pass to be experimented on , for example ?PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Good of BBC4 to wheel out a repeat of a 2016 documentary about historical dodgy practices at Porton Down.
The MoD took 50 years to pay out to the family of the LAC they killed with sarin .
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Where do you think the French might invade?PaulfromYorkshire wrote:What were you saying about the Falklands?ohsocynical wrote:Macron’s Thatcher moment has arrived
The honeymoon is over for Emmanuel Macron. His first 11 months in office have been something of a breeze —…
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