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And they've just introduced a targeted at the sick/disabled "fairness" reform in full knowledge of risk.Nothing fascistic at all.


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For some unknown reason,sick people tend to die earlier.


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Let's make it harder-hurrah.

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And the Lord sayeth the terminally ill are being unfair to the perfectly well and must be punished.

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European Commission raids Murdoch's Fox offices in London over sports rights 'cartel'

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... g_share_tw

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https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit- ... eal-talks/
"EU hopes Brexit will help deliver an India trade deal"


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Good to hear sense from the Tory MP’s Julian Lewis and John Barron,

basically “Do we side with the Murderer or the Maniacs ?”

Which makes a nice change from the gung ho’s Tugendhat and Mercer .

Now one of Trump’s favourites at Fox News also confuses the situation, in a good way –

https://youtu.be/cSGf2ZpDENU



Particularly good from 5 minutes in, those 2013 quotes from Trump.


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https://www.politico.eu/article/syria-c ... mir-putin/
"Syria crisis collides with Trump chaos"
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Vice President Mike Pence attended a strategy session in the president’s place as senior officials hashed out their options....
....On Tuesday morning, the White House abruptly announced that Trump would no longer be taking a planned trip to South America this weekend, opting instead to stay in Washington to oversee the Syria situation. Pence will travel to Lima, Peru, instead.

Probably reading too much into this, it could be dealing with Syria, but maybe Trump is otherwise occupied?


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https://www.politico.eu/blogs/on-media/ ... w-thrives/
"How Trump thrives in ‘news deserts’
Relentless use of social media and partisan outlets helped him swamp Clinton and exceed Romney’s performance in places lacking trusted local news outlets."
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That gives new force to the widely voiced concerns of news industry professionals and academicians about Trump’s ability to make bold assertions about crime rates, unemployment and other verifiable facts without any independent checks. Those concerns, which initially were raised during the campaign, were largely based on anecdotes and observations. POLITICO’s analysis suggests that Trump did, indeed, do worse overall in places where independent media could check his claims.


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European Commission raids Murdoch's Fox offices in London over sports rights 'cartel'

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... g_share_tw

Al Capone got done for income tax evasion


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tinybgoat wrote:
https://www.politico.eu/blogs/on-media/2018/04/trump-media-news-desert-how-thrives/
"How Trump thrives in ‘news deserts’
Relentless use of social media and partisan outlets helped him swamp Clinton and exceed Romney’s performance in places lacking trusted local news outlets."
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That gives new force to the widely voiced concerns of news industry professionals and academicians about Trump’s ability to make bold assertions about crime rates, unemployment and other verifiable facts without any independent checks. Those concerns, which initially were raised during the campaign, were largely based on anecdotes and observations. POLITICO’s analysis suggests that Trump did, indeed, do worse overall in places where independent media could check his claims.
He's deluded himself most of all


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If I may be the one to say it on this occasion - good morfternoon.


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I don't know if we had this at the time, last November, but just in case we didn't. It's good to know someone's actually done some work on this.

Using House of Commons speeches on welfare from the late 1980s to 2015, Tom O’Grady finds that declining support for the benefits system was a top-down phenomenon.
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolic ... s-welfare/

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This is a (very) long read and quite interesting, until the end which I think he could/should have left out, but it connects with my previous post about how peoples ideas are formed. I'll quote part of it for those who don't make it through the whole piece.

NHS SOS
https://www.lrb.co.uk/v40/n07/james-meek/nhs-sos
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It was a first for me to hear somebody say, as Louise did: ‘Don’t get me wrong, I’m not for the workhouse. But …’

Building up slowly, then with increasing enthusiasm, determination and evidence of considerable prior thought, Louise Warren laid out an ideal of healthcare and welfare in general that lay somewhere between early Dickensian England and the modern, pre-Obamacare (I think pre-Medicare, too) United States: an England of private medical insurance, self-reliance, self-help, of a reckoning for feckless welfare recipients who don’t understand that pay TV is a luxury, of decent poor people fallen on hard times being helped by acts of charity in the same way the Lincolnshire Chronicle’s ‘simple, kindly country folk’ helped Maud Elizabeth-Norman in 1924, an England which (despite 70 years of evidence to the contrary) simply could not afford to run a national health service from public funds.

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@gilsey
Thank you for these contributions, difficult information, uncomfortable reading but necessary
Why do some with power and resources want others in greater hardship?


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May now taking much the same line on Syria that Corbyn did a few days ago. And he was almost hysterically denounced by certain "liberal" journalists for doing so.


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tinybgoat wrote:
https://www.politico.eu/blogs/on-media/2018/04/trump-media-news-desert-how-thrives/
"How Trump thrives in ‘news deserts’
Relentless use of social media and partisan outlets helped him swamp Clinton and exceed Romney’s performance in places lacking trusted local news outlets."
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That gives new force to the widely voiced concerns of news industry professionals and academicians about Trump’s ability to make bold assertions about crime rates, unemployment and other verifiable facts without any independent checks. Those concerns, which initially were raised during the campaign, were largely based on anecdotes and observations. POLITICO’s analysis suggests that Trump did, indeed, do worse overall in places where independent media could check his claims.


Local stations are no longer 'local' ...

Today, owning many stations and centralizing these back-end tasks are common in the broadcast business. What isn’t common is what the Deadspin video shows. As far as I know, no other station group has written news scripts and required local stations to deliver them.

In fact, it’s a practice that directly goes against U.S. broadcast policy, which asserts that local stations should serve their geographic communities and be allowed to refuse content offered by national networks. Sinclair, however, has dubbed these scripts “must runs.” The company also produces complete news stories and commentaries that it requires local stations to air.


https://www.juancole.com/2018/04/sincla ... dcast.html

Do not adjust your set !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSo
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The more ''lib'ral media'' represented by MSNBC and CNN are equally powerful ...


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Barnier: UK can change mind on single market until end of 2020

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http://www.24housing.co.uk/news/dwp-con ... ransition/


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Funny how your own perception is far from "reality".To me I was gliding around with ease,the pics show an old man on the verge of collapse,though the photographer purposefully took on a steep hill and at the worst point.


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The coughing fit has moved from about the five mile mark to the end.


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How times change,time/result posted at town hall/in paper/via post to instant text message.


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I was "before" chip timing,so their time not mine to begin with.(always start at the back,to give others a chance)


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HindleA wrote:
How times change,time/result posted at town hall/in paper/via post to instant text message.


The history of elections is a fascinating thing, genuinely.


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https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... ds-england


Government unveils controversial plans for testing four-year-olds


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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... are_btn_tw


We know about the gender pay gap. But what about the disability pay gap?


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https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ity-rights

A broken lift made me a prisoner in my home. But I fought for my disability rights
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Penalise and present as unfair those in suitable adapted housing,that'll help.


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https://www.theguardian.com/education/2018/apr/11/government-unveils-controversial-plan-testing-four-year-olds-england


Government unveils controversial plans for testing four-year-olds

I can't bring myself to look at it just now
Test them for what?


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syri ... 5?irpc=932

GENEVA (Reuters) - U.N. human rights investigators have gathered testimony from casualties of Syria’s civil war and medical staff indicating that rebel forces have used the nerve agent sarin, one of the lead investigators said on Sunday.

The United Nations independent commission of inquiry on Syria has not yet seen evidence of government forces having used chemical weapons, which are banned under international law, said commission member Carla Del Ponte.

“Our investigators have been in neighboring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals and, according to their report of last week which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated,” Del Ponte said in an interview with Swiss-Italian television.

“This was use on the part of the opposition, the rebels, not by the government authorities,” she added, speaking in Italian.

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Values,any reasonable ones will be removed.


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Nice from Wren-Lewis.
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In this story of how populism came to the UK, and represents an ever present threat in the UK, Labour’s problems over antisemitism do not even deserve a footnote. Antisemitism is a big part of Orban’s campaign and rhetoric, personified in his constant attacks on George Soros, but that theme has been repeated not by Corbyn but by the same right wing press that focused on immigration and gave us Brexit. Antisemtism is a problem within Labour, but the source of that problem is the Israel Palestine situation. It is not, and never will be, a part of a Labour government’s appeal to the electorate. It will not be a Labour government that tells people that have lived here for scores of years that they now have to leave the UK and say goodbye to their friends and family. It is not and never will be the Labour party that runs an Islamophobic campaign for mayor of London.

https://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2018 ... inly+macro)

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ohsocynical wrote:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-crisis-un/u-n-has-testimony-that-syrian-rebels-used-sarin-gas-investigator-idUSBRE94409Z20130505?irpc=932

GENEVA (Reuters) - U.N. human rights investigators have gathered testimony from casualties of Syria’s civil war and medical staff indicating that rebel forces have used the nerve agent sarin, one of the lead investigators said on Sunday.

The United Nations independent commission of inquiry on Syria has not yet seen evidence of government forces having used chemical weapons, which are banned under international law, said commission member Carla Del Ponte.

“Our investigators have been in neighboring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals and, according to their report of last week which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated,” Del Ponte said in an interview with Swiss-Italian television.

“This was use on the part of the opposition, the rebels, not by the government authorities,” she added, speaking in Italian.


Just been made aware this Tweet is from 2013....

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-crisis-un/u-n-has-testimony-that-syrian-rebels-used-sarin-gas-investigator-idUSBRE94409Z20130505?irpc=932

GENEVA (Reuters) - U.N. human rights investigators have gathered testimony from casualties of Syria’s civil war and medical staff indicating that rebel forces have used the nerve agent sarin, one of the lead investigators said on Sunday.

The United Nations independent commission of inquiry on Syria has not yet seen evidence of government forces having used chemical weapons, which are banned under international law, said commission member Carla Del Ponte.

“Our investigators have been in neighboring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals and, according to their report of last week which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated,” Del Ponte said in an interview with Swiss-Italian television.

“This was use on the part of the opposition, the rebels, not by the government authorities,” she added, speaking in Italian.


Just been made aware this Tweet is from 2013....
May 5, 2013 / 5:56 PM / 5 years ago
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Is everyone up to speed on the disastrous Tory campaign letters in South London?

In some kind of mailmerge fail, a number of letters have gone out addressed to

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Blah blah

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
Is everyone up to speed on the disastrous Tory campaign letters in South London?

In some kind of mailmerge fail, a number of letters have gone out addressed to

Mr Youmustbe Fuckingjoking
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Dear Mr Fuckingjoking

Blah blah

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


But they are the party of COMPETENCE, blah blah :D


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With cabinet meeting tomorrow, Theresa May looks likely to take Britain to war without a parliamentary vote.


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