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I was wondering about the *distinctly* early start to this thread........


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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
Good Morfternoon from Xiamen, China where it's 7.00 am ;-)

Currently wondering how I'm going to cope without Twitter! Thankfully FTN is available in China, so I'll be relying on you all even more than usual :-)

Looking forward to 'reports' when you have time !

(Havent checked the time difference, was looking for a couple of links for TBG. EDIT -- read in haste, now waking up !!!! )

On military grade nerve agent proliferation

an-alternative-explanation-to-the-skripal-mystery.

http://washingtonsblog.com/2018/04/an-a ... stery.html

Gareth Porter is one of the handful of really good journos.

Proliferation of more 'conventional' chem weapons --

yes-the-syrian-rebels-do-have-access-to-chemical-weapons.

http://washingtonsblog.com/2013/09/yes- ... apons.html

(Haven't looked at that site for years, but it was particularly good way back on the GFC.)

I'm not putting my hand in the fire on the ' Douma gassing', but so far as we can work out the USUKFR intel is all conveniently secret.

What is impressive is the readiness of the mainstream media to accept videos as absolute proof .

Hollywood rules :-)


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Morning all.

And another one closes down...

Isle of Wight Studio School to close due to lack of demand

http://www.iwcp.co.uk/news/16178319.Isle_of_Wight_Studio_School_to_close_due_to_lack_of_demand/

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THE Isle of Wight Studio School will close next year due to a lack of demand.

Bosses said the school, which opened four years ago at Grange Road, East Cowes, was not financially viable in the long term.

The school for 14 to 19 year olds, run by the Inspire Academy Trust, was aimed at increasing local employment.

In addition to academic subjects, students were offered vocational qualifications and work placements with Isle of Wight employers.

However, the idea has failed to find favour with Isle of Wight families and the school is currently running at around 40 per cent capacity, with 49 students in Year 10 and 71 in Year 11.


Apparently this is the 19th studio school to close.

Quite how Tories thought that a 14-19 school would be viable in an 11-18 system is anybody's guess.

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Interesting thread about Capita.

https://twitter.com/ianmakgill/status/9 ... 7042970624

17 and 18 are really key. All about managing risk and the last thing a government needs is a company failure and then to find out that they didn't have a clue as to how big a problem it is.

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Anyway, there is a certain irony in that New Labour's growing obsession with "public sector reform" and reasonable public finances meant that the outsourcing companies had a pretty good time of it up to the recession; and that the squeeze on public spending since then has led to those companies finding it far more difficult to hold to their previous margins.

Remember this from Cameron?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8337237/David-Cameron-promises-public-sector-revolution.html

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Downing Street said the plans illustrated that Mr Cameron was prepared to go far further than any recent prime minister – including Tony Blair – on public sector reform.

The only exemptions will be the judiciary and the security services. All other public services will be expected to open up to private competition under the plans, which the Government hopes will slash bureaucracy, improve the quality of public services and save money.


High profile failures and public spending squeeze = keep services in house.

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That letter that David Lammy received that I posted up yesterday about how he should be grateful to this country...I'd forgotten about these.

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Interesting thread about Capita.

https://twitter.com/ianmakgill/status/9 ... 7042970624

17 and 18 are really key. All about managing risk and the last thing a government needs is a company failure and then to find out that they didn't have a clue as to how big a problem it is.

I really liked this one too --
20/ or, how to manage an orderly withdrawal from #Capita's services without causing any damage. Its a nasty dilemma and not one I envy.
The Shrinking the State ideology has its drawbacks !


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Another threatened deportation...

https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/9 ... 3218818049

How is Amber Rudd still in a job?

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Another threatened deportation...

https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/9 ... 3218818049

How is Amber Rudd still in a job?

Also, Roger, one has to wonder what orders those people in the HO would NOT follow.

Befehl sind befehl .

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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
Good Morfternoon from Xiamen, China where it's 7.00 am ;-)

Currently wondering how I'm going to cope without Twitter! Thankfully FTN is available in China, so I'll be relying on you all even more than usual :-)

Looking forward to 'reports' when you have time !

(Havent checked the time difference, was looking for a couple of links for TBG. EDIT -- read in haste, now waking up !!!! )

On military grade nerve agent proliferation

an-alternative-explanation-to-the-skripal-mystery.

http://washingtonsblog.com/2018/04/an-a ... stery.html

Gareth Porter is one of the handful of really good journos.

Proliferation of more 'conventional' chem weapons --

yes-the-syrian-rebels-do-have-access-to-chemical-weapons.

http://washingtonsblog.com/2013/09/yes- ... apons.html

(Haven't looked at that site for years, but it was particularly good way back on the GFC.)

I'm not putting my hand in the fire on the ' Douma gassing', but so far as we can work out the USUKFR intel is all conveniently secret.

What is impressive is the readiness of the mainstream media to accept videos as absolute proof .

Hollywood rules :-)

Thanks.
Keeping a stock of poison in the garage, sounds plausible.
Though not really comparable, reminds me of a story about a great grandmother (paternal side), who post-war, said she'd kept enough poison stashed away in case the Nazis invaded (sadly meant for use on her family, rather than the enemy).

My nagging question with the Skripal poisoning is the door-knob. It was an external knob,, so why would two people be affected by it, and more importantly why poison people leaving the house? I'd have timed it so they were affected when returning home & so collapsed inside where they wouldn't be noticed & helped. An operative could also, possibly clean the door-knob to try and hide evidence (or just to be public spirited).

As for Syria, one of the reported witnesses who said his wife and daughters had died, stated he saw a gas canister, didn't think it had been dropped from a helicopter & thought it was opposition forces who'd deployed it. So I don't think it's an unreasonable suggestion, but it seems strange that Syria & Russia insisted no gas attack occurred, rather than blaming enemy forces.


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Surreal moment.

Was just watching an interview with Baz Luhrmann. Apparently he changed his name to Baz by deed poll. It was a nickname he got at school because of a bushy afro-like hairstyle he had. It seems that Baz Luhrmann is, in fact, named after Basil Brush!

Edited to add, unless, of course, he was pulling everyone's leg. It really is impossible to know what is true anymore!

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https://www.politico.eu/article/tories- ... adiq-khan/
"Tories eye race to take on Sadiq Khan"
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However shiny the prize, the party is cautious.
Sensible Tories know they’re not likely to win against Sadiq, who is a charismatic incumbent with both a popular fares policy that’s easing the burden of living in London and a strong record of taking on government by calling for ministers to open up the purse strings and invest in the capital,”

Continues with a small list of potential (but not necessarily sensible) candidates.


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Sensible Tories, eh?

<insert your own punchline here>


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Talking of sensible Tories, JRM proving once again that's about as close to being that as I am of being Pope...

https://twitter.com/peterwalker99/statu ... 1841652737

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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
Good Morfternoon from Xiamen, China where it's 7.00 am ;-)

Currently wondering how I'm going to cope without Twitter! Thankfully FTN is available in China, so I'll be relying on you all even more than usual :-)


Baidu bot is a frequent visitor to FTN, so I knew this website was searchable in China but I'd never really thought about someone in China actually reading it. It may just be our own PaulfromYorkshire, but it's still a reminder of just how remarkable the World Wide Web truly is. Bringing people together. The internet may have been corrupted by social media, fake news and the dark web, but it still has many amazing and positive contributions to make to global understanding and co-operation. Like Open Science, for instance. It's by no means all bad.


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Umm....

I'm not sure how that picture of Basil Brush got there. I was going to attach it to the earlier comment, but then didn't. Don't know how it ended up on the subsequent comment. Oops!

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Talking of sensible Tories, JRM proving once again that's about as close to being that as I am of being Pope...

https://twitter.com/peterwalker99/statu ... 1841652737

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:roll:


Somebody beam me up please . Who sold a large percentage of the UK fishing quotas to forriners?


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Jacob Rees-Mogg went a bit quiet for a while but he seems to be cranking up again at the moment. Are we heading towards a leadership challenge? I mean, sometimes I think the likes of Rees-Mogg are mostly for show and underneath are working quietly simply to protect their own privilege and wealth. But then other times I find myself wondering if they actually believe the abject bollocks they come out with and then I get really nervous because then I realise they might actually believe themselves capable of running a country and might even be able to persuade others of this too. Please tell me no one would be fool enough to make Jacob Rees-Mogg PM. I mean, it couldn't happen, right? Most Tories are at least half human, aren't they?

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'I felt like dirt': disabled Canadian woman told to leave UK after 47 years

Margaret O’Brien’s treatment by Home Office suggests scandal goes beyond Windrush generation
Amelia Gentleman (Guardian)


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/24/canadian-woman-told-to-leave-uk-margaret-obrien


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Clarence Mitchell who is CA's spokesperson this afternoon to say 'this is all nonsense and we didn't do a thing, really' was the conservative candidate standing against Caroline Lucas in Brighton Pavilion in 2015 and was the conservative party's head of Election Media Monitoring in 2010.

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Jacob Rees-Mogg went a bit quiet for a while but he seems to be cranking up again at the moment. Are we heading towards a leadership challenge? I mean, sometimes I think the likes of Rees-Mogg are mostly for show and underneath are working quietly simply to protect their own privilege and wealth. But then other times I find myself wondering if they actually believe the abject bollocks they come out with and then I get really nervous because then I realise they might actually believe themselves capable of running a country and might even be able to persuade others of this too. Please tell me no one would be fool enough to make Jacob Rees-Mogg PM. I mean, it couldn't happen, right? Most Tories are at least half human, aren't they?


I'm not saying it absolutely couldn't happen - especially in today's febrile climate - but there are many powerful people determined that he should *not* be PM. Ever.

Think back to the stuff that scuppered Leadsom two years ago.......


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Margaret O’Brien’s treatment by Home Office suggests scandal goes beyond Windrush generation
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/24/canadian-woman-told-to-leave-uk-margaret-obrien

I think the wording keeps changing on the gov.UK immigration websites, little changes that aren't officially labelled updates


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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 6.html?amp
"Theresa May’s post-Brexit customs plan for EU is 'completely cretinous', Jacob Rees-Mogg says"
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Speaking in Parliament, at an event organised by the Open Europe think tank, Mr Rees-Mogg mocked the idea as “completely cretinous”, also calling it “impractical, bureaucratic”.
No 10 has not confirmed that Ms May prefers the partnership plan to a so-called “customs arrangement” – based on new technology and trusted status for smaller traders.

Nothing like a bit of constructive criticism.


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badly trolled by Tory government
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Margaret O’Brien’s treatment by Home Office suggests scandal goes beyond Windrush generation
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/24/canadian-woman-told-to-leave-uk-margaret-obrien
After two years of mandatory sign-ins at a Home Office location far from home, an indefinite leave to remain stamp in an expired Canadian passport noticed by a case worker in the Refugee and Migrant Centre was apparently the thing letting her stay and her disability benefits restored. She's worked and lived in the UK for decades, came to the UK in 1971, prior legislative acts applied to her inappropriately. She'd official documentation enough already proving this. Haphazard and inconsistent rules applied or not is crazy-making. You'll never know.


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Thanks all just dipping in and what a great load of posts. I feel thoroughly updated. Who needs Twitter? ;-)

And a random Basil Brush to boot!

It reminds me a bit of Alan Rusbridger popping up when anyone reached 666 posts :lol:


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JEREMY Corbyn took more than three hours to congratulate the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge on the birth of their third royal baby child - a boy - at the Lindo Wing of St Mary’s Hospital, sparking frustration across social media.
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https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/950139/jeremy-corbyn-Kate-Middleton-royal-baby-labour-live-update-hospital-Duchess-of-Cambridge/amp
"Jeremy Corbyn SILENT for HOURS after Kate and William welcome royal baby"
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JEREMY Corbyn took more than three hours to congratulate the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge on the birth of their third royal baby child - a boy - at the Lindo Wing of St Mary’s Hospital, sparking frustration across social media.
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"Jeremy Corbyn SILENT for HOURS after Kate and William welcome royal baby"
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JEREMY Corbyn took more than three hours to congratulate the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge on the birth of their third royal baby child - a boy - at the Lindo Wing of St Mary’s Hospital, sparking frustration across social media.
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
tinybgoat wrote:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/950139/jeremy-corbyn-Kate-Middleton-royal-baby-labour-live-update-hospital-Duchess-of-Cambridge/amp
"Jeremy Corbyn SILENT for HOURS after Kate and William welcome royal baby"
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JEREMY Corbyn took more than three hours to congratulate the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge on the birth of their third royal baby child - a boy - at the Lindo Wing of St Mary’s Hospital, sparking frustration across social media.
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How low can he go?


How low can the Express go, more like :D


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Wonder how many will see the judgment compared to the original story?

Complaint upheld over Times story about girl fostered by Muslims

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/apr/24/complaint-upheld-over-times-story-about-london-girl-fostered-with-muslim-family

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Tower Hamlets council complained about an article on the front page of the newspaper’s 30 August edition – the third front page dedicated to the story that week – in which the newspaper had implied a judge had ruled against the council by ordering that the then five-year-old girl be removed from the Muslim household and placed with her grandmother. In fact, it was the council that had requested the girl be placed with her grandmother.

Under the headline: “Ipso upholds complaint against Times”, the paper says in Wednesday’s edition that Ipso has ruled the article breached rule one of the editor’s code, which concerns accuracy.

The Ipso ruling, which was published in full on page two, called the 30 August article a “distortion” of the issue.

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