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Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 1:53 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
Good Morfternoon from Chengdu, China ;-)

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 6:40 am
by frog222
Toady -- at 0600 Nick Robinson manages to read out that there WERE removals targets .

Leading on it again at 6.30 with quotes from Rudd. She had no idea about bloody anything. HO staff aiming at " Low hanging fruit", target figures pinned on office walls FFS.

One question that has never been answered is on the related matter of unethical behaviour on WCA's --- WHY didn't the professional bodies mobilise to oppose nurses and physios collaborating with the DWP ?

The same applies to the Home office unions . Orders are orders ?

Not holding my breath.

Light relief --

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Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 9:09 am
by RogerOThornhill
Morning all.

Dan Hannan seems to have morphed into Toby Young...

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Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 9:18 am
by RogerOThornhill
Quite.
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If Theresa May knew the Windrush generation and their children were British all along - as she says in #PMQs - why was she stopping their rights to work, healthcare and benefits and detaining or deporting them? And why did she ignore the clear alarms raised until this week?

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 9:30 am
by RogerOThornhill
This is superb.

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Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 11:04 am
by gilsey
It is, but doesn't he have anything better to do?



UK government paid consultants £680K for Brexit customs plan
The proposal is one of two UK suggestions rejected by Brussels and widely criticized by British MPs.
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Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 11:09 am
by gilsey
It's just a repeat of the DWP and sanctions.
Amber Rudd’s opening statement.

I have never agreed that there should be specific removal targets and I would never support a policy that puts targets ahead of people.

The immigration arm of the Home Office has been using local targets for internal performance management. These were not published targets against which performance was assessed, but if they were used inappropriately then I am clear that this will have to change.

I have asked officials to provide me with a full picture of performance measurement tools which are used at all levels, and will update the House and the Home Affairs select committee as soon as possible.

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 11:43 am
by RogerOThornhill
*cough* Labour's target culture *cough*

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 12:37 pm
by HindleA
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Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 1:17 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
RogerOThornhill wrote:This is superb.

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"Give me crayons" :D

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 1:49 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:This is superb.

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"Give me crayons" :D
It is brilliant and the crayons line is good, but in the midst of this little Alfie is dying :-(

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 1:57 pm
by adam
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:This is superb.

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"Give me crayons" :D
It is brilliant and the crayons line is good, but in the midst of this little Alfie is dying :-(
Not sure if we had this but I thought it was very good indeed, from the Independent yesterday.

As an intensive care doctor and a mother whose own baby son was critically ill, the Alfie Evans case makes me angry

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 2:11 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Of course the case itself is desperately sad and that should never be forgotten. But the shameless ghouls who have attached themselves to it.......

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 2:16 pm
by citizenJA
Good-afternoon, everyone

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 2:58 pm
by Willow904
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Rudd sets massive new Brexit hare running by refusing to confirm UK will definitely leave EU’s Customs Union: “I’m afraid I’m not going to be drawn on that”. Instead, says discussions still ongoing in Cabinet #pressgallery
2:32 pm · 26 Apr 2018
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Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 3:28 pm
by RogerOThornhill
A "clarification" which normally means "Got back to the office...got a stinking phone call from No 10 and and am now backtracking like mad"

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Thanks to the Press Gallery for hosting me at a challenging yet enjoyable lunch. I should have been clearer - of course when we leave the EU we will be leaving the customs union. I wasn't going to get into ongoing cabinet discussions about our future trading relationship.

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 3:38 pm
by ohsocynical
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A significant number of accounts with no followers are punting the nonsense that Labour is somehow responsible for the Windrush scandal & Theresa May’s ‘hostile environment’ policies.
Is this the first foray of a Tory troll farm?
I wonder who's in charge of the Troll Farm? Not the brightest whoever it is.

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 4:17 pm
by gilsey
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9. Davis says CU had advantages in the 70s. UK trade is currently 60pc to EU, 40pc to rest of the world. “In a year or so that will be reversed”. Says UK wants a “racing start” to avail of global trade opportunities. No need for an extension of membership of CU.
Yes, that's exactly what we're afraid of. :wall:

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Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 5:59 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Bit quiet in here again?

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 6:36 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Of course the case itself is desperately sad and that should never be forgotten. But the shameless ghouls who have attached themselves to it.......
Yes of course AK my comment was not aimed at you or RoT, just me saying what I feel.

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 6:36 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Bit quiet in here again?
Look who's back! :twisted:

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 6:38 pm
by Willow904
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Facebook says AggregateIQ spent $2m on Brexit-related ads

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 6:58 pm
by refitman
Heidi Allan has confirmed she's stepping down.

Shame :lol:

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 7:09 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
refitman wrote:Heidi Allan has confirmed she's stepping down.

Shame :lol:
A reminder of my exchange with her

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 7:25 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
Anyone else noticed that suddenly there are new "specs-free" photos of Rudd everywhere?

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 7:26 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
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Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 7:29 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
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I'm sitting at a railway station gotta ticket for my deportation, oooh #AmberRuddSongs

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 7:43 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
refitman wrote:Heidi Allan has confirmed she's stepping down.

Shame :lol:
Actually, if Heidi Allen was resigning as an MP that would be pretty big - and tbh unexpected - news. I assume you really mean Heidi ALEXANDER, though?

;)

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 7:45 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
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Apparently, #HeidiAlexander was at Durham at the same time as I was. But I cannot remember her, and I knew all the political crowd. Anyway, there we are. She rose without trace, and she seems to be falling without trace as well. http://davidaslindsay.blogspot.com/2018 ... l?spref=tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 8:50 pm
by refitman
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
refitman wrote:Heidi Allan has confirmed she's stepping down.

Shame :lol:
Actually, if Heidi Allen was resigning as an MP that would be pretty big - and tbh unexpected - news. I assume you really mean Heidi ALEXANDER, though?

;)
Oops.

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 9:00 pm
by Willow904
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In a speech Mr Barnier rejected Theresa May’s call for continued trade in financial services between Britain and the EU “based on the UK and EU maintaining the same regulatory outcomes over time”.

“I can perfectly see the UK's logic and interest in pleading for a system of ‘mutual recognition’ and ‘reciprocal regulatory equivalence’,” Mr Barnier said at a finance conference in the Bulgarian capital. “This is, indeed, what the single market achieves!”
Well, exactly. We want to leave so everything can be the same. Forget "sick man of Europe", we're the ruddy thick man of Europe.

:smack:

Re: Thursday 26th April 2018

Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2018 10:24 pm
by frog222
A Crace for China --

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Tho the straight news is too Cracelike for comfort !