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Survation/4in10 (London local elections):

LAB 51 (+8)
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https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/ ... tax-system


Calls for complete overhaul of 'unfit' inheritance tax system

The linked explanation/outlining of social care charging for in own home is bullshit Each council can charge subject to guidance.It varies,here is was half DLA mid rate per week default,as an example.


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About the same as the recently removed housing support in benefit rather than an interest bearing loan.Highly related both facillitated continued work (one penny earned disbars you from loan option),independence,vast cost savings.h


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Knowingly penalising not expected workers of course reveals the utter bullshit of supposed intention/justification.


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Parallel lines now meet.

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Usual misuse of the minority case-ie.jsa,timelimited anyway,to enact misanthropy.Another under the guise,with everybody agreeing in principle, simplification.


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A decent appointment for once by the look of it.

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In case you're wondering, Ofsted went really well yesterday and we got the best outcome possible from the type of inspection it was. It's quite complicated these days...

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... n-election

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Labour 'throwing kitchen sink' at Swindon election


They certainly are. There are no local elections in BANES so they're trying to get members across to Swindon to help there.

As with many areas of the South West, the Tories have benefited there from the Libdem collapse in 2015 and other parties (including UKIP) were all but wiped out in 2017, which basically means for Labour to win parliamentary seats there next time they'll need to take votes directly from the Tories (or possibly via a recovery of the Libdem vote hurting the Tories again).

So these local elections could provide some clues as to what may or may not happen in 2022. Can Labour take votes directly from the Tories? Can they benefit from a Libdem recovery? Swindon may provide some hints, so it's definitely one to watch.

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Good explainer about customs partnerships-even I understood it! http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/05 ... he-project


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Good explainer about customs partnerships-even I understood it! http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/05 ... he-project


Being sensible means staying in the EU. So being sensible is the one thing we won't do :(

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Blimey! Feral shock troops. Fancy that. Another name to add to the list.

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Blimey! Feral shock troops. Fancy that. Another name to add to the list.

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I didn't feel like that when I was staggering around with my walking stick delivering leaflets. :lol:

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Blimey! Feral shock troops. Fancy that. Another name to add to the list.

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I didn't feel like that when I was staggering around with my walking stick delivering leaflets. :lol:


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Blimey! Feral shock troops. Fancy that. Another name to add to the list.

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I didn't feel like that when I was staggering around with my walking stick delivering leaflets. :lol:


Sounds more ferrule than feral. Do you think that's what he meant, but had a spelling melt-down?

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"UC is more targeted".Indeed it is.


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"Universal malicious stupidity"


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Corbyn: The government used to talk about a long-term economic plan - but now we're the slowest growing ecnomy in the G7. Chancellor said he was 'tiggerish', but worst figures for 5 years. What plans are there to change course?


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Good explainer about customs partnerships-even I understood it! http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/05 ... he-project


Being sensible means staying in the EU. So being sensible is the one thing we won't do :(

Nice clear article !
" " This is a really good idea if you're in a customs union with your main trading partner, but it has drawbacks. It means you can't sign independent trade deals. If Italy signed a trade deal with the US, they would send all their bananas to Rome tax free. Then they could just circulate all around the customs union without paying tax. Everyone would be undercut. So customs unions sign trade agreements as a whole - it's an all-for-one-and-one-for-all kind of thing.

This is where all that country-of-origin mumbo jumbo comes from. Customs unions are obsessed with establishing where things came from so they know they're not being undercut. That means checkpoints and searches and tests. Basically: It means trade is no longer frictionless. And this, more than the tariffs themselves, is a massive hindrance to business.

The Brexiters' problem is that they want two mutually incompatible things. They wants tax-free, bureaucracy-free trade with the continent and they want to be able to sign their own trade deals. They're like a man staring at a book demanding that it sing him a song."


I noticed the logic fail on the banana tariff , but the first commenter sorts it !


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But two well people with no responsibilities or family got a job three seconds quicker six years ago a DWPbot irrelevantly farted.


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We tend to get kids using tripods as machine guns in video shoots

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Hundreds of thousands of women were not called for breast cancer screens when they should have been.

Presumably many of them have since died.

Hunt blames IT.


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Hunt says 270 women have died as a result.

Presumably it's many many more.


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Daily Mash is on form today.


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children’s charities intervene in landmark Supreme Court case
A case being heard in the Belfast Supreme Court will decide whether unmarried, cohabiting parents with children should be granted access to bereavement benefits when their partners die.


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Seems like a good session for Jez today.


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Unfortunately I didn't meet any Tories....

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In lieu of six votes,I have no elections.Amber Valley needs one to turn red.


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Retired couple Len and Val never missed a mortgage payment - but now they face losing their home.

I see the argument over the wisdom of post retirement mortgage(SMI) but certainly not for the sick/disabled.Their support is way more than ours was (and the average)We would have breached an agreement,outwith control,vast cost saving investment,the trouble with universally applying hence universal malicious stupidity,"difficult cases" when it so clearly simple,a tad of recognition of circumstances,mutually beneficial to individual and State.


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Government thought pensioner numbers would drop as a proportion,investigating as to why the opposite.


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I hear, as expected, the decisive Brexit war sub-committee has deferred a decision on what customs proposal to put to Brussels. Quelle surprise!
7:57 am - 2 May 2018
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The above timeline should read 3:57 pm - Politics Live (Guardian) is now showing a new\amended "Tweet".


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Or three?


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Even more "shocking" given that the elections are tomorrow......


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What elections,bah humbug.


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I don't give a toss about passing on anything to non existent offspring,my argument is anything that defacillitates care in own home is rank stupidity.


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Signif development. No10 just outlined 3 ways Parliament could 'properly investigate' Bercow bullying allegations:
1 indep inquiry cd expand terms of reference;
2 "House authorities" cd investigate; 3 Parliamentary Cssnr cd investigate.
Looking bad for Bercow.
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Wasn't he supposed to be handing over around now anyway?


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Retired couple Len and Val never missed a mortgage payment - but now they face losing their home.

I see the argument over the wisdom of post retirement mortgage(SMI) but certainly not for the sick/disabled.Their support is way more than ours was (and the average)We would have breached an agreement,outwith control,vast cost saving investment,the trouble with universally applying hence universal malicious stupidity,"difficult cases" when it so clearly simple,a tad of recognition of circumstances,mutually beneficial to individual and State.


There's a lot of UK housing dysfunction in this story. When the couple returned to the UK in their 50s with no savings, was a mortgage really the best option? In a way, yes, because we don't have secure long term lets available in the UK. But the original mortgage was steep because they had so few years of working life left to pay it. Then there was a decision to borrow more money to spend on the house. A lot of people overestimate the value such work adds to a property. Often it adds no value at all, so they may have depleted a chunk of their equity with that. I'm not sure they should have been lent that money at that time. And then, when they could no longer earn as much because of ill health, they switched to interest-only. Interest-only payments are great for the short-term, such as after redundancy or while fighting a serious illness. And I do agree where the state has a duty of care to the sick and disabled, paying mortgage interest can be much cheaper than paying housing benefit for rent for potentially less suitable accommodation. Would that apply to this couple, though? They have the ability to house themselves adequately via the rented sector, after all, or at least ought to for the money they can afford to pay for themselves. Which brings us to the final dysfunction. The lack of social and council housing, which in the past would have been available to provide a secure retirement home for people like this couple (and their pets) but has been sold off at a loss via right to buy.

This story is a very good example of the multitude of inter-related things that have to change to get housing right. We're doing absolutely everything wrong at the moment, that's the problem.

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