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Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 7:45 am
by HindleA
Morning.

A bright and glorious day here.In lieu of no elections ,I'm watching Amber.

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 7:50 am
by Willow904
A lovely dry, sunny day on which to not vote in Bath & NE Somerset also. ;)

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 8:01 am
by HindleA
Fuck it.


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Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 8:03 am
by HindleA
Could try impersonating a polling station..

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 8:04 am
by frog222
2° earlier but sun's up !

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 8:06 am
by HindleA
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Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 8:06 am
by HindleA
http://info.ambervalley.gov.uk/election ... tsweb.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 8:08 am
by HindleA
http://www.ambervalley.gov.uk/council-a ... ke-up.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 8:15 am
by Willow904
Meanwhile, Swindon is one of the places trialling ID. Voters need to bring their polling cards......after many years of the media going out of their way to remind people that they don't need their polling card to vote. So should go well then.

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 8:16 am
by HindleA
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Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 8:19 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... -practices" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Mike Ashley reignites row over Sports Direct's working practices

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 8:56 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -mcdonnell" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Voters may be ready to pay higher council tax, says John McDonnell

Hmm, even Labour supporters object to a penny even if specifically for social care according to evidence,here.

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 9:04 am
by Willow904
HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -mcdonnell


Voters may be ready to pay higher council tax, says John McDonnell

Hmm, even Labour supporters object to a penny even if specifically for social care according to evidence,here.
Council tax isn't exactly the most progressive tax, either.

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 9:10 am
by HindleA
Retreading old ground.Suffice to say objecting to contributing via the chosen method on that grounds I find disappointing,shall I politely say.

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 9:12 am
by RogerOThornhill
Morning all.

Voted already and had a quick chat with one of our candidates who was canvassing near the school.

I though the ballot paper was a bit short - only Labour & Tories - and apparently this is the first time this has happened...no Green or LibDem.

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 9:23 am
by RogerOThornhill
The law of unintended consequences in here somewhere...

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Also: how will this tally with Prevent? Radical Islamic preachers will presumably also be covered by this kind of blanket provision?
Government: You have to let anyone speak. No banning!
Also Government: Wait. No, not them!

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 9:24 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

Voted already and had a quick chat with one of our candidates who was canvassing near the school.

I though the ballot paper was a bit short - only Labour & Tories - and apparently this is the first time this has happened...no Green or LibDem.
And thankfully no UKIP either I assume.

Though the Tories might as well be I guess.

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 9:31 am
by HindleA
God Bless Tarquin has agreed to stand for election for head of gardening services,allowing me a vote.He might possibly win,given the only candidate.


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Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 9:32 am
by Willow904
HindleA wrote:Retreading old ground.Suffice to say objecting to contributing via the chosen method on that grounds I find disappointing,shall I politely say.
Loading more and more tax on individuals and communities that can least afford it is the opposite of socialism. It's what the Tories do/are doing. They have reduced the amount paid towards social care etc that comes from central progressive taxation and increased the amount that comes from local regressive taxation. Some people are really going to struggle to find the money to cover the increases in council tax this year out of stagnating wages and incomes. Arguments for higher taxation for better services should be based on taxes that are related to ability to pay. Council tax increases are part of a deliberate Tory policy to reverse the redistribution of wealth from the affluent South East to the rest of the country. I'm not about to apologise for opposing that process on every level. Raising regressive taxes while reducing progressive ones is never acceptable to me.

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 9:36 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... ership-day" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

May's plan for a Customs Partnership is "dead".

I don't know where this leaves Brexit. Hopefully "dead" too.

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 10:34 am
by gilsey
I didn't think there'd be much counting overnight but apparently there will.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... -announced" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 11:01 am
by gilsey
I saw this on twitter yesterday but something went wrong when I tried to post it here. I'm paraphrasing a bit.

Basically, the tories have a hostile environment for all of us, on everything. Immigration, benefits, local govt, NHS, wages etc. They might as well have a manifesto just saying WE HATE YOU ALL.

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 11:12 am
by AnatolyKasparov
gilsey wrote:I saw this on twitter yesterday but something went wrong when I tried to post it here. I'm paraphrasing a bit.

Basically, the tories have a hostile environment for all of us, on everything. Immigration, benefits, local govt, NHS, wages etc. They might as well have a manifesto just saying WE HATE YOU ALL.
But people still vote for them and will do so today. The "they only mean nasty other people, not good us" drug remains a powerful one.

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 11:26 am
by PorFavor
Good morfternoon.

Voter ID required up the road in Gosport. The local rag mentions this in its election coverage - but fails, with its usual attention to accuracy and detail, to mention what counts as acceptable ID. I await with interest . . .

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 11:27 am
by RogerOThornhill
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
gilsey wrote:I saw this on twitter yesterday but something went wrong when I tried to post it here. I'm paraphrasing a bit.

Basically, the tories have a hostile environment for all of us, on everything. Immigration, benefits, local govt, NHS, wages etc. They might as well have a manifesto just saying WE HATE YOU ALL.
But people still vote for them and will do so today. The "they only mean nasty other people, not good us" drug remains a powerful one.
And the ones using the "Labour drone" will generally be the same people who wouldn't dream of voting anything other than Tory and who tweet incessantly about anything other than Tory cockups and mistakes i.e. Tory drones. For example, Windrush? Not interested.

We know a few like that...

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 11:28 am
by HindleA
http://www.24housing.co.uk/news/86000-y ... et-demand/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


86,000 young people in the UK homeless or at risk as councils struggle to meet demand

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 11:31 am
by HindleA
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Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 11:34 am
by HindleA
Rusty Twatterface and his sidekick Ivor Donna Whoopsie,I presume.

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 11:37 am
by PorFavor
cacacacacacacacac

I now have (touch wood) a fully functioning keyboard.

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 11:39 am
by adam
PorFavor wrote:cacacacacacacacac

I now have (touch wood) a fully functioning keyboard.
And not a caca one. (Pre-school slang, you get it all here).

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 12:13 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.

Voter ID required up the road in Gosport. The local rag mentions this in its election coverage - but fails, with its usual attention to accuracy and detail, to mention what counts as acceptable ID. I await with interest . . .
Seriously, if journalists want to do something useful they should inquire into how many are being turned away from polling stations in the "trial" areas because of this.

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 12:15 pm
by RogerOThornhill
HindleA wrote:Rusty Twatterface and his sidekick Ivor Donna Whoopsie,I presume.
I notice they've started the lie about me setting up an account called Dr Terror on here. It was used twice and then never again. Why would I do that?

Both of them need to get a life...it's just embarrassing now after all this time.

:roll:

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 12:20 pm
by RogerOThornhill
I do like the way that information keeps coming out on the trump / Stormy Daniels saga....

"I knew nothing about my lawyer paying off this woman"
"Trump repaid his lawyer for paying her off"

It's getting a bit like Amber Rudd's denials on targets...

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 12:46 pm
by HindleA
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Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 12:50 pm
by PorFavor
Rachel Obordo

Susan who lives in Bromley brought her passport to the polling station this morning:

“There wasn’t a huge amount of publicity about needing to bring ID today but I was fine. I got the impression though that there wasn’t a system in place for recording those who turned up without ID and couldn’t vote. You would think with a pilot scheme that kind of information would be recorded. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Yes - you'd think so, wouldn't you? I expect it will be the usual shambles. Also, I think the Government is gambling (mistakenly, I hope) that disenfranchising people in local elections won't be taken so much to heart by the electorate as would be disenfranchising people in a General Election.

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 12:54 pm
by refitman
PorFavor wrote:
Rachel Obordo

Susan who lives in Bromley brought her passport to the polling station this morning:

“There wasn’t a huge amount of publicity about needing to bring ID today but I was fine. I got the impression though that there wasn’t a system in place for recording those who turned up without ID and couldn’t vote. You would think with a pilot scheme that kind of information would be recorded. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Yes - you'd think so, wouldn't you? I expect it will be the usual shambles. Also, I think the Government is gambling (mistakenly, I hope) that disenfranchising people in local elections won't be taken so much to heart by the electorate as would be disenfranchising people in a General Election.
Seems to be catching more elderly, than students/BAME. Expect it to be dropped soon.

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 1:01 pm
by citizenJA
HindleA wrote:Could try impersonating a polling station..
you've done it already
replication of that triumph is impossible

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 1:02 pm
by citizenJA
Good-afternoon, everyone

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 1:05 pm
by citizenJA
edited out my pointless observation regarding Trump and Daniels

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 1:11 pm
by citizenJA
PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.

Voter ID required up the road in Gosport. The local rag mentions this in its election coverage - but fails, with its usual attention to accuracy and detail, to mention what counts as acceptable ID. I await with interest . . .
Officials counting on everyone uninterested.
You're letting them down.

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 1:13 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
refitman wrote:
PorFavor wrote:
Rachel Obordo

Susan who lives in Bromley brought her passport to the polling station this morning:

“There wasn’t a huge amount of publicity about needing to bring ID today but I was fine. I got the impression though that there wasn’t a system in place for recording those who turned up without ID and couldn’t vote. You would think with a pilot scheme that kind of information would be recorded. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Yes - you'd think so, wouldn't you? I expect it will be the usual shambles. Also, I think the Government is gambling (mistakenly, I hope) that disenfranchising people in local elections won't be taken so much to heart by the electorate as would be disenfranchising people in a General Election.
Seems to be catching more elderly, than students/BAME. Expect it to be dropped soon.
Ah, could the Law Of Unintended Consequences be about to strike again?

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 1:21 pm
by adam
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Ah, could the Law Of Unintended Consequences be about to strike again?
On something completely different - nearly posted this before but this is clearly a nudge to do so - police in California have recently arrested a man suspected of being a 1970s-80s serial killer 'The Golden State Killer' - through comparing DNA records from scene of crime evidence with DNA samples people have voluntarily submitted to ancestry-tracing and DNA profiling organisations...

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 1:26 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Right, I'm off out - helping with a session on local history at the library.

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 1:40 pm
by PorFavor
RogerOThornhill wrote:Right, I'm off out - helping with a session on local history at the library.

At least the library isn't "local history". Yet.

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 1:48 pm
by adam
PorFavor wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:Right, I'm off out - helping with a session on local history at the library.

At least the library isn't "local history". Yet.
I may have mentioned this at some point in the past, but in all of the last eight years or so there is little that has annoyed me more than our local library service closing the reference library, moving the stock into the central library by shifting a lot of the reference material and central library material into storage, and then putting up a sign saying 'At last, all of your library services under one roof.'

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 2:24 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
refitman wrote:
PorFavor wrote:
Rachel Obordo

Susan who lives in Bromley brought her passport to the polling station this morning:

“There wasn’t a huge amount of publicity about needing to bring ID today but I was fine. I got the impression though that there wasn’t a system in place for recording those who turned up without ID and couldn’t vote. You would think with a pilot scheme that kind of information would be recorded. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Yes - you'd think so, wouldn't you? I expect it will be the usual shambles. Also, I think the Government is gambling (mistakenly, I hope) that disenfranchising people in local elections won't be taken so much to heart by the electorate as would be disenfranchising people in a General Election.
Seems to be catching more elderly, than students/BAME. Expect it to be dropped soon.
It's a fair bet. Younger people carry ID routinely for pubs etc anyway!

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 2:30 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
Any recent news on the Skripal case?

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 2:33 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
@DailyMailUK
2 hours ago

Skripal and his daughter may have got Novichok on their SHOES and spread it further than previously thought

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 2:34 pm
by PorFavor
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Any recent news on the Skripal case?
Only, as in the last couple of days, that they have "no suspects". Haven't heard anything since.

Re: Thursday 3rd May 2018

Posted: Thu 03 May, 2018 2:35 pm
by PorFavor
Oh - you're more informed than I am!


Edited to add -

PTO