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I thought it was on the doorknob. How did they get it on their shoes? Did they forget the key and have to kick the door in?
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I wonder how the voter ID scheme is going in Gosport. It's not been mentioned (so far). Needless to say, there's absolutely no point in consulting the local press for a progress report.
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Aside from counting the number of people who are turned away (which doesn't seem to be being recorded anyway), I can't see any mechanism (apart from turnout figures - which can't be incontrovertibly connected to voter ID requirements) for gauging how many people may not have even attempted to vote because they knew that they didn't have the requisite documents.



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PorFavor wrote:I thought it was on the doorknob. How did they get it on their shoes? Did they forget the key and have to kick the door in?
Apparently the attack was "messy" and it was raining so it could have got anywhere :roll:
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PorFavor wrote:Aside from counting the number of people who are turned away (which doesn't seem to be being recorded anyway), I can't see any mechanism (apart from turnout figures - which can't be incontrovertibly connected to voter ID requirements) for gauging how many people may not have even attempted to vote because they knew that they didn't have the requisite documents.

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How much time did government give people to get adequate photo ID for these elections? Were the new ID requirements made clear?
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
PorFavor wrote:I thought it was on the doorknob. How did they get it on their shoes? Did they forget the key and have to kick the door in?
Apparently the attack was "messy" and it was raining so it could have got anywhere :roll:
It's my understanding no one has died from this nerve gas thing (excepting the furry friends left without food and water inside the dwelling). Is that correct?
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
PorFavor wrote:I thought it was on the doorknob. How did they get it on their shoes? Did they forget the key and have to kick the door in?
Apparently the attack was "messy" and it was raining so it could have got anywhere :roll:
Messy Russian assassins. Try saying that quickly (if you've nothing more important to do, of course).
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I expect better from Russian assassins
I'm beginning to think we're not being told the entire story
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PorFavor wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
PorFavor wrote:I thought it was on the doorknob. How did they get it on their shoes? Did they forget the key and have to kick the door in?
Apparently the attack was "messy" and it was raining so it could have got anywhere :roll:
Messy Russian assassins. Try saying that quickly (if you've nothing more important to do, of course).
Messy unsuccessful Russian assassins ;-)
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The selected bit from Michael Deacon's column in here about David Davis is very amusing...

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Very good. Shame we didn't have twitter then, he'd be like Trump, a tweet for every occasion.
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PorFavor wrote:Aside from counting the number of people who are turned away (which doesn't seem to be being recorded anyway), I can't see any mechanism (apart from turnout figures - which can't be incontrovertibly connected to voter ID requirements) for gauging how many people may not have even attempted to vote because they knew that they didn't have the requisite documents.



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So a pilot study with no meaningful outcomes?

Sounds about right for this bunch of incompetents.
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RogerOThornhill wrote:
PorFavor wrote:Aside from counting the number of people who are turned away (which doesn't seem to be being recorded anyway), I can't see any mechanism (apart from turnout figures - which can't be incontrovertibly connected to voter ID requirements) for gauging how many people may not have even attempted to vote because they knew that they didn't have the requisite documents.



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So a pilot study with no meaningful outcomes?

Sounds about right for this bunch of incompetents.
Also very convenient if you have decided to go ahead with something anyway. Perish the thought eh.......
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I've never heard of a pilot study that didn't have set criteria for judging the outcome !

Has anyone heard what the official Objective is for this operation ?

Have the Opposition asked them ?
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Here.
Clanger.
Here.

OH!

Here Clanger here.
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tinyclanger2 wrote:Here.
Clanger.
Here.

OH!

Here Clanger here.
Well goodness gracious me, look who's here!
How are you?
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PorFavor wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
PorFavor wrote:I thought it was on the doorknob. How did they get it on their shoes? Did they forget the key and have to kick the door in?
Apparently the attack was "messy" and it was raining so it could have got anywhere :roll:
Messy Russian assassins. Try saying that quickly (if you've nothing more important to do, of course).
Need to check out how much novichuk agent, a novice agent needs to chuck at a knob
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Pretty good.
Thanks!
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citizenJA wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
PorFavor wrote:I thought it was on the doorknob. How did they get it on their shoes? Did they forget the key and have to kick the door in?
Apparently the attack was "messy" and it was raining so it could have got anywhere :roll:
It's my understanding no one has died from this nerve gas thing (excepting the furry friends left without food and water inside the dwelling). Is that correct?
Yes - it's correct.
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tinyclanger2 wrote:Here.
Clanger.
Here.

OH!

Here Clanger here.
You haven't come on holiday by mistake, have you?
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I have.
And now I want cake and the finest wines known to humanity.
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I want them here.
And I want them now.
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I've been canvassing the council estates in Hackney South, one of the most heavily #Remain seats in Britain, and not been asked about #Brexit once. Can't generalise from the particular, I suppose, but what are other people's experiences?
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My dad was disabled.
On polling day, he’d call the Conservative party office on great western street & they’d give him a lift to the polling station where he’d religiously vote Labour.
Then, he’d get them to drop him at the parkside pub on lloyd st in Moss Side.
I miss him a lot

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May broke ancient protocols to defeat Windrush transparency. What was she so desperate to hide?

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ohsocynical wrote:View image on Twitter
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The SKWAWKBOX
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May broke ancient protocols to defeat Windrush transparency. What was she so desperate to hide?

https://skwawkbox.org/2018/05/03/may-br ... e-to-hide/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

8:01 PM - May 3, 2018
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This clears things up why 78 Labour MPs abstained. I have been answering this all day, they weren,t even in the HOC to vote
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ohsocynical wrote:View image on Twitter
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The SKWAWKBOX
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May broke ancient protocols to defeat Windrush transparency. What was she so desperate to hide?

https://skwawkbox.org/2018/05/03/may-br ... e-to-hide/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

8:01 PM - May 3, 2018
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Grubby lot, aren't they? Thanks for the link.
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Goodnight, everyone
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Quite.
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We’ve just had six months plus of the govmt literally trying to put British citizens on planes because they can’t produce papers so if your schtick today is “It’s only those who aren’t entitled to vote who won’t have the right ID” you can do one
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Re ohsocynical's link, above, I hope something is made of this by Labour after the local elections dust has died down. Can't see anything about it in the mainstream news but the Conservatives should be shown up for such despicable behaviour.
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Polls close in 12 minutes. As if you didn't all know that already . . .
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PorFavor wrote:Polls close in 12 minutes. As if you didn't all know that already . . .
I've only just realised that I hadn't changed the setting on here after the clocks went forward...
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According to Laura Bundock(sp?) on Sky TV News, Jeremy Corbyn's best chance of success in London is "in London". Sounds as if it could be a long night . . .
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Can't remember - are there any exit polls for key areas in local elections?
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PorFavor wrote:Re ohsocynical's link, above, I hope something is made of this by Labour after the local elections dust has died down. Can't see anything about it in the mainstream news but the Conservatives should be shown up for such despicable behaviour.
Water off a ducks back I'm afraid. Look how they messed the Queen around when they didn't have a majority, and then did a bung to the DUP. Which reminds me. I wonder if they've paid the billion pounds yet? They were dragging their feet.
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ohsocynical wrote:
PorFavor wrote:Re ohsocynical's link, above, I hope something is made of this by Labour after the local elections dust has died down. Can't see anything about it in the mainstream news but the Conservatives should be shown up for such despicable behaviour.
Water off a ducks back I'm afraid. Look how they messed the Queen around when they didn't have a majority, and then did a bung to the DUP. Which reminds me. I wonder if they've paid the billion pounds yet? They were dragging their feet.
Yes, that was bad (not that I have any time for the Quing in a general sort of way) but reneging on a parliamentary deal is tawdry stuff.
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PorFavor wrote:Can't remember - are there any exit polls for key areas in local elections?
Not usually. Haven't heard and can't see any news of any today.
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@britainelects
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Croydon borough council voting intention:

LAB: 50% (+16)
CON: 37% (+4)
GRN: 4% (-5)
LDEM: 4% (-2)
UKIP: 2% (-13)
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Although I've been wrong before.
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adam wrote:Although I've been wrong before.
Big chuckles and please know my post was in ignorance of yours :lol:
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Silksworth (Sunderland) result:

Lab: 52.4% (-0.2)
Con: 32.6% (+16.3)
LDem: 7.5% (+7.5)
Grn: 7.5% (+7.5)

No UKIP (-31.1) as prev.
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Labour HOLD Shiney Row (Sunderland).
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Lab: 54.4% (+2.2)
Con: 23.7% (+8.7)
Ind: 13.2% (+13.2)
Grn: 4.7% (+4.7)
LDem: 4.1% (+0.8)
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Laindon Park (Basildon) result:

Con: 43.7% (+21.8)
Lab: 37.0% (+4.7)
UKIP: 19.3% (-21.7)
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Oh no BritainElects has crashed....
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Liberal Democrat GAIN Pallion (Sunderland) from Labour.

*I think this happened in a by-election there recently
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Yes my memory was spot on.

From 2 Feb

Pallion (Sunderland) result:

LDEM: 53.9% (+49.5)
LAB: 34.8% (-15.9)
CON: 5.4% (-7.2)
UKIP: 4.2% (-24.7)
GRN: 1.7% (-1.8)
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Fryerns (Basildon) result:

Lab: 48.6% (+13.5)
Con: 33.7% (+15.8)
UKIP: 17.7% (-25.2)

Labour GAIN from UKIP.
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