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Friday 4th May 2018

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Morning.
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Well that was boring (the elections so far I mean).
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Fully expected "next door" to remain blue,so I wasn't disappointed.More stemmingf the blue tide than gaining anything.I can't see it changing for the foreseeable.
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The Tory massive placard villager will be happy.I content myself they can't spell the name of the road they live on,even though there is a sign across from them.
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Morning all.

Bit of a mixed bag then...in my own council Labour gained 13 seats so are even more dominant than they were before.

Here's the page for the overall results.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cz3nmp ... tions-2018" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

Bit of a mixed bag then...in my own council Labour gained 13 seats so are even more dominant than they were before.

Here's the page for the overall results.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cz3nmp ... tions-2018" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I saw one quite nice correlation between CON gains and Leave / CON losses and Remain from seats so far.

Of course folk who should no better on Twitter are having a go at Corbyn while Sky News point out that on projections from the data so far the Tories / DUP would lose their majority.

Funny old world.

And lots of councils still to count I'm guessing.
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Gaby Hinsliff


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Astonished @bbcnickrobinson "You've ust compared your party with the Black death". ukip man: ''what's wrong with that"
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Disappointed in Sunderland.
Again.
Sorry.
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Good-morning, everyone
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PorFavor is likely having a lie in
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Did everyone get to vote? Did you meet ID requirements?
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RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

Bit of a mixed bag then...in my own council Labour gained 13 seats so are even more dominant than they were before.

Here's the page for the overall results.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cz3nmp ... tions-2018" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
1,467
lab
37
Labour, 1467 councillors, +37

884
con
2
Conservative, 884 councillors, -2

326
ld
40
Liberal Democrat, 326 councillors, +40

22
grn
6
Green, 22 councillors, +6

2
ukip
92
UKIP, 2 councillors, -92

98
oth
11
Others, 98 councillors, +11
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UKIP and Tories are currently the only parties down at this time, according to the BBC link
"Number of councillors After 99 of 150 councils After 99 of 150 councils"
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https://www.gov.uk/government/news/educ ... ool-system" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Education Secretary to set out vision for "clearer" school system


https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ity-system" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Tory gains from UKIP
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Do LibDem gains mean people are voting for that party's Brexit position?
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From 2016.
This is the great and final victory of Ukip. They have taken their economically catastrophic EU agenda, their bizarre sense of thin-skinned personal victimhood, and their culture-war poison over immigration and embedded it in the guts of the Tory party.
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Good morfternoon.

Edited - typo. Good start . . .
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HindleA wrote:https://www.gov.uk/government/news/educ ... ool-system


Education Secretary to set out vision for "clearer" school system


https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ity-system" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
These's a thread on this which I;m just reading.

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On the main issue it looks like Ofsted 1 National Schools Commissioner 0...
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tinyclanger2 wrote:Disappointed in Sunderland.
Again.
Sorry.
Unfortunately the Labour-run council is very unpopular there.
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clearly
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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/ ... 0504148623" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Tories annoyed Brexit not leaving time to bollocks up other things
TORIES are concerned the government is so bogged down in Brexit it does not have time to destroy the rest of the fabric of society.
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Am sure the knock-on effects will take care of it for them.
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citizenJA wrote:Do LibDem gains mean people are voting for that party's Brexit position?
Generally speaking, no.
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There is mounting interest in the result in Birmingham, where there are suggestions Labour could lose, in what would be significant blow to the party. (Politics Live, Guardian)
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Labour sources at the count in Birmingham say it doesn’t look like a good performance for them, reports political editor Heather Stewart.

All of the seats are up for grabs, and they’re being fought on new boundaries - but reports suggest Labour is struggling in white, working-class wards; while advancing in the inner city.

Birmingham is hosting the Conservative party conference this year, as the party celebrates the success of Andy Street in winning the metropolitan mayorality.

With the balance of power on the city council before yesterday’s poll 79 Labour seats to 29 Tories, there is no danger of Labour losing control, say those on the ground - but the party’s majority could be significantly reduced. The count is ongoing.(Politics Live, Guardian)
Not quite the same as "losing" Birmingham.
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Midlands.
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Didn't get the Leave vote from B'ham at all.
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HindleA wrote:Fully expected "next door" to remain blue,so I wasn't disappointed.More stemmingf the blue tide than gaining anything.I can't see it changing for the foreseeable.
Net loss of two seats for Labour in Amber Valley - however, IIRC the Tories will be defending a very good set of results there next year. Its not over yet.
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Latest figures.

The Labour Party has around 552,000 members, as of January 2018
The Conservative Party has 124,000 members as of March 2018
The Scottish National Party has around 118,200 members, as of April 2018
The Liberal Democrat Party has around 100,500 members, as of April 2018
The Green Party (England and Wales) has 41,073 members, as of April 2018
UKIP has around 21,200 members, as of April 2018
Plaid Cymru has around 8,000 members, as of April 2018
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Ukip has confirmed its apparent slide into political irrelevance with a disastrous performance in the local elections in England, prompting a senior official to compare the party to the Black Death.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -elections" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Afternoon.

Just as well the local elections were relatively, as I've been so busy today I've barely had time to look at the results.

Have checked Swindon briefly and the answer to whether Labour can take votes directly from the Tories in the SW seems to be a "no". The Libdems took a seat from the Tories and Labour took a seat from the Libdems. A nice leftwards direction, that reduced the Tory majority to one, but less a surge and more a very slow, incremental plod.

Good to see Labour take Plymouth, though. A sign that the old SDP (rather than Liberal) Libdem strongholds are coming back to Labour.
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Labour did top the poll in Swindon, however. Some might say that was in spite of it being one of the trial areas for voter ID, too......
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Everyone
I think Labour did okay
Am I missing something?
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Labour did top the poll in Swindon, however. Some might say that was in spite of it being one of the trial areas for voter ID, too......
I think turnout was up, so the extra boots on the ground may have got the Labour vote out, but mostly where they're already ahead anyway, it seems. The pattern is very much one of the two main parties becoming entrenched without being able to make much headway against the other. An extremely divided country with a sort of no man's land in the middle. I'm not sure if Brexit will change that or whether that stark division will simply intensify during transition.

As for the impact of voter ID and who was affected we have no way of knowing, unfortunately. As trials go, it was a complete joke.
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The Tories are down 62 seats in the London, How are @SkyNews trying to spin this as a good result in London for the Tories?! Your bias this morning is an insult to the public. #localelections2018 #Elections2018
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'Why more Labour councillors elected is bad news for Jeremy Corbyn/Labour'
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citizenJA wrote:Everyone
I think Labour did okay
Am I missing something?
No you're not missing something. They're the best results since 1971.
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citizenJA wrote:Everyone
I think Labour did okay
Am I missing something?
I think Labour did what you would expect if nothing had changed much since the General Election? At least that's my reading of the results. National vote share equivalents currently put Tories and Labour neck and neck on 35%.
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ohsocynical wrote:
citizenJA wrote:Everyone
I think Labour did okay
Am I missing something?
No you're not missing something. They're the best results since 1971.
London-wise, yes.
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Marsha de Cordova MP

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Last night Labour came within 150 votes of beating the Tories in Wandsworth – a Tory stronghold for 40 years.

Our activists and council candidates fought incredibly hard and deserved even better results. My full statement on last night's results ⬇️
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I don't think I managed to manage my expectations very well.
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No matter how dire the news, Liz always manages to raise a smile.

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So on Sky News with @faisalislam, @trussliz just said the Tories hope to take some seats in Middlesbrough tonight. There's no elections in Middlesbrough #IncompetentTories #LE2018
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PorFavor wrote:I don't think I managed to manage my expectations very well.
Mr citizen just came home with chocolate and fresh blueberries. Please help yourself.
I'll make us some tea.
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Meanwhile, the first Westminster byelection of this parliament has seen a comfortable Sinn Fein hold in W Tyrone.

Both they and the DUP runners-up are down a bit in vote share, almost no swing overall.

Looks like there will be the first mainland vacancy soon, Heidi Alexander reported to about to announce her resignation as an MP to join Sadiq Khan's team.
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