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Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 8:00 am
by HindleA
Morning

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 9:36 am
by mbc1955
Evening

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 10:11 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
Good morfternoon ;-)

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 10:44 am
by citizenJA
wiseguys the lot of you

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 11:38 am
by AnatolyKasparov
So, anything actually happening?

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 11:48 am
by PorFavor
AnatolyKasparov wrote:So, anything actually happening?
Seems like the Trump\North Korea romance is off.

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 11:50 am
by PorFavor
Good morfternoon.

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 11:53 am
by PorFavor
Christopher Hope

@christopherhope

EXCLUSIVE Government to announce it will 'renationalise' East Coast mainline today https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... g_share_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; … via @Telegraph By @Steven_Swinford and @jrmaidment
11:42 AM - May 16, 2018
Exclusive: Government to 'renationalise' East Coast mainline

The Government will renationalise one of Britain's busiest railway lines after its private operators admitted they could not afford to keep running it.
telegraph.co.uk
(Politics Live, Guardian)

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 1:05 pm
by gilsey
PorFavor wrote:
Christopher Hope

@christopherhope

EXCLUSIVE Government to announce it will 'renationalise' East Coast mainline today https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... g_share_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; … via @Telegraph By @Steven_Swinford and @jrmaidment
11:42 AM - May 16, 2018
Exclusive: Government to 'renationalise' East Coast mainline

The Government will renationalise one of Britain's busiest railway lines after its private operators admitted they could not afford to keep running it.
telegraph.co.uk
(Politics Live, Guardian)
A bit of good news for a change.

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 1:06 pm
by gilsey
PMQs - Snap verdict: Corbyn is starting to make it look easy. It isn’t easy, of course (winning PMQs is about the hardest task for an opposition leader), and Corbyn isn’t a natural as a parliamentary performer, but for the second week in a row, on a subject that for months he avoided at all costs, he managed to knock May all over the place. He was also more versatile than usual, combining real humour (ie, a joke that actually made people laugh, not synthetic, parliamentary humour - the laughter after his first question went on so long they will probably have to edit it out in the radio bulletins), deadly specifics (the question about HMRC staff), good attack quotes (the ones from car manufacturers), but also questions that accurately and harshly summed up the government’s failings (primarily, the absence of a Brexit negotiating position only five months before the deal is supposed to be completed).

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 1:16 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
PorFavor wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:So, anything actually happening?
Seems like the Trump\North Korea romance is off.
It will very possibly be on again soon, seems like that sort of thing.

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 1:26 pm
by citizenJA
gilsey wrote:
PMQs - Snap verdict: Corbyn is starting to make it look easy. It isn’t easy, of course (winning PMQs is about the hardest task for an opposition leader), and Corbyn isn’t a natural as a parliamentary performer, but for the second week in a row, on a subject that for months he avoided at all costs, he managed to knock May all over the place. He was also more versatile than usual, combining real humour (ie, a joke that actually made people laugh, not synthetic, parliamentary humour - the laughter after his first question went on so long they will probably have to edit it out in the radio bulletins), deadly specifics (the question about HMRC staff), good attack quotes (the ones from car manufacturers), but also questions that accurately and harshly summed up the government’s failings (primarily, the absence of a Brexit negotiating position only five months before the deal is supposed to be completed).
a Cannes Film Festival review

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 1:45 pm
by gilsey
There was more good news.

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Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 1:54 pm
by GetYou
WikiLeaks is suing the Graun over one of the Assange propaganda pieces:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/996454996014223363

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 1:57 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/u ... -divisions" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

pmqs-review-jeremy-corbyn-revels-tories-brexit-divisions

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 1:58 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
The "joke" was I think something along the lines of

'When she wrote at the weekend that she wanted as little friction as possible, was she referring to the EU or the next Cabinet meeting?'

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 2:00 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
John McDonnell MP

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46m46 minutes ago

Good to see Grayling implementing first stage of Labour’s Manifesto promise to renationalise the railways. I think I’m right in saying that he’s now nationalised more railways than any Labour minister in 6 decades. Come on Chris, East Coast line today, the whole system tomorrow.

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 2:23 pm
by HindleA
https://www.gingerbread.org.uk/policy-c ... al-credit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 2:33 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Today is proving a good Labour day overall, it seems. Just what we all needed after a slightly rockier period recently.

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 2:33 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Social care funding plans branded costly and unfair
Proposals for older people in England almost as costly as making all care free, say critics

Half spend,third receivers ignored as per.

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 2:36 pm
by HindleA
Warps any discussion,misrepresents.Reframing the issue appropriately and necessarily before beginning to address is a continual uphill struggle.

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 2:41 pm
by HindleA
https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/publicatio ... ing-reform" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 4:09 pm
by PorFavor
Brokenshire tells MPs some Grenfell Tower survivors will still be in emergency accommodation one year after fire

In the Commons MPs are now debating a Labour motion on the Grenfell Tower fire which, among other things, calls upon the government to honour its promise to permanently rehouse all the survivors by 14 June, the first anniversary of the disaster.

It is understandable the community will feel disappointed and let down. I too am very concerned, especially to see people who accepted an offer of a permanent home still living in emergency accommodation. (Politics Live, Guardian - my emphasis)
Has this Government managed to do anything right?

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 4:19 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Today is proving a good Labour day overall, it seems. Just what we all needed after a slightly rockier period recently.
Indeed :-)

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 4:55 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
It's hardly trending, but I thought folk here would enjoy the hashtag

#PityPoorDanHodges

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 4:59 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:It's hardly trending, but I thought folk here would enjoy the hashtag

#PityPoorDanHodges
What have they done now?

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 5:56 pm
by Willow904
Evening.

From the G:
May loses 15th Lords vote on EU withdrawal bill as peers vote for body to enforce EU environmental standards after Brexit
The government has suffered its 15th defeat in the Lords on the EU withdrawal bill. Peers voted by 294 to 244 - a majority of 50 - in favour of an amendment to create a watchdog to enforce EU environmental standards after Brexit.

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 6:12 pm
by PorFavor
Cabinet may need weeks to settle customs row, Lidington says

Minister says there have been ‘serious criticisms’ of both models as it emerges government is taking legal advice (Guardian)
Surely it's rather late in the day to have decided that "legal advice" is in order.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ngton-says

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 6:53 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:It's hardly trending, but I thought folk here would enjoy the hashtag

#PityPoorDanHodges
What have they done now?
Can't even remember!

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 7:08 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Just being himself, I suspect ;)

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 7:58 pm
by PorFavor
May loses 15th Lords vote on Brexit bill as peers vote to keep EU environmental standards (Politics Live, Guardian)
To lose one vote may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose 15 looks like . . . .

Suggestions?

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 8:39 pm
by RogerOThornhill
PorFavor wrote:
May loses 15th Lords vote on Brexit bill as peers vote to keep EU environmental standards (Politics Live, Guardian)
To lose one vote may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose 15 looks like . . . .

Suggestions?
...uselessness.

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 10:28 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
RogerOThornhill wrote:
PorFavor wrote:
May loses 15th Lords vote on Brexit bill as peers vote to keep EU environmental standards (Politics Live, Guardian)
To lose one vote may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose 15 looks like . . . .

Suggestions?
...uselessness.
Strength and stability?

Re: Wednesday 16th May 2018

Posted: Wed 16 May, 2018 11:12 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Talking of useless...
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"White Papers typically will set out a whole range of issues so that.... " @hbaldwin

“No, no, that's Green Papers - White Papers outline government policy" @afneil tells the minister #bbcdp
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