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Saturday, May 19th and Sunday, May 20th 2018

Sat 19 May, 2018 6:11 am

Good morfternoon.

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Sat 19 May, 2018 6:42 am

http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2018 ... ou-did-so/
"Sometime soon you will have consented to Brexit whatever you might think: the Brexiteers will deem that you did so"

Richard Murphy, on EU Withdrawal Bill & definition of "consent decision".

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Sat 19 May, 2018 7:28 am

Morning all.

Seen on a mate's FB page yesterday.

Bracing myself for tomorrow's grotesque flaunting of entrenched privilege, hideous wealth inequalities, tarnished tradition, petty feuds and dysfunctional dislikeable institutions. BUT ENOUGH ABOUT THE FA CUP FINAL …


:D

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Sat 19 May, 2018 7:52 am

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/ro ... 56061.html
"Forget the Markles – who in their right mind would want to marry into the royal family?"
Kay Burley will tell us on Sky News: “You can see as you look around Windsor, even the flies are buzzing with a joyful air. The worms in the park are giving off a distinct glow this morning – they know this is a very special day indeed.”

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Sat 19 May, 2018 8:18 am

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Sat 19 May, 2018 8:26 am

Morning.

Thank goodness for Aljazeera. Some actual news.

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Sat 19 May, 2018 8:29 am

Nooooooo!

Now Aljazeera are doing the wedding too.

:wall:

Edited to add it's ok, they gave it all of 2 minutes! :D

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Sat 19 May, 2018 8:32 am

Willow904 wrote:Morning.

Thank goodness for Aljazeera. Some actual news.


Ah - good point. I've been sedulously avoiding the news thus far! I'm rather worried that all sorts are really going on, under the cover of this expensive farce, that we won't get to hear about.

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Sat 19 May, 2018 8:33 am

Willow904 wrote:Nooooooo!

Now Aljazeera are doing the wedding too.

:wall:

Edited to add it's ok, they gave it all of 2 minutes! :D


Oh. Perhaps I'll maintain my position, then.


Edited to add -

Typed and posted before your own edit.

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Sat 19 May, 2018 8:54 am

I'm trying to get used to some new varifocal glasses today, so I'm already a bit grumpy. The lack of normal news is just adding to my irritation. I mostly missed the last royal wedding by going shopping, but not completely because the tills for the food hall were next to the electrical department where the tv's were all on and so my check out assistant was able to watch as she rang my stuff through, so I got a cheerful running commentary of the exchanging of the rings as I paid for my groceries.

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Sat 19 May, 2018 9:17 am

https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/art ... -struggles
"Why the spirit of the Levellers lives on in today’s struggles"
It's Levellers day! Might help explain the street party thing, up the road.
edited to put URL in URL tags, didn't work, so tried substituting apostrophe for %27...
Last edited by tinybgoat on Sat 19 May, 2018 9:42 am, edited 2 times in total.

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Sat 19 May, 2018 9:20 am

tinybgoat wrote:http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2018/05/18/sometime-soon-you-will-have-consented-to-brexit-whatever-you-might-think-the-brexiteers-will-deem-that-you-did-so/
"Sometime soon you will have consented to Brexit whatever you might think: the Brexiteers will deem that you did so"

Richard Murphy, on EU Withdrawal Bill & definition of "consent decision".

(4) For the purposes of subsection (3) a consent decision is—
(a) a decision to agree a motion consenting to the laying of the
draft,
(b) a decision not to agree a motion consenting to the laying of the
draft, or
(c) a decision to agree a motion refusing to consent to the laying of
the draft;
and a consent decision is made when the Parliament first makes a
decision falling within any of paragraphs (a) to (c) (whether or not it
subsequently makes another such decision).

:shock:

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Sat 19 May, 2018 9:24 am

tinybgoat wrote:https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/article/why-spirit-levellers-lives-today’s-struggles
"Why the spirit of the Levellers lives on in today’s struggles"
It's Levellers day! Might help explain the street party thing, up the road.


I tried to access the link - sadly, to no avail.

Re: Saturday, May 19th and Sunday, May 20th 2018

Sat 19 May, 2018 9:31 am

RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

Seen on a mate's FB page yesterday.

Bracing myself for tomorrow's grotesque flaunting of entrenched privilege, hideous wealth inequalities, tarnished tradition, petty feuds and dysfunctional dislikeable institutions. BUT ENOUGH ABOUT THE FA CUP FINAL …


:D


Pretty obvious tbh, but still raised a smile :)

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Sat 19 May, 2018 9:45 am

PorFavor wrote:
tinybgoat wrote:https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/article/why-spirit-levellers-lives-today’s-struggles
"Why the spirit of the Levellers lives on in today’s struggles"
It's Levellers day! Might help explain the street party thing, up the road.


I tried to access the link - sadly, to no avail.


tried to edit it & failed abysmally :cry:

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Sat 19 May, 2018 10:11 am

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article ... -struggles

See if this works.

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Sat 19 May, 2018 10:25 am

Willow904 wrote:https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/why-spirit-levellers-lives-today%E2%80%99s-struggles

See if this works.


Yes - that worked, thanks. Somewhere about the place I've got a book about the Levellers. Amazingly, it's called "The Levellers". I got it in a second-hand bookshop years ago, and still haven't read it. Now, if only I knew what box it was in . . .

Edited to add -
Then, of course (if memory serves), there were the True Levellers, and also the Diggers. Nothing's ever straightforward, is it?

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Sat 19 May, 2018 11:48 am

PorFavor wrote:
Willow904 wrote:https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/why-spirit-levellers-lives-today%E2%80%99s-struggles

See if this works.


Yes - that worked, thanks. Somewhere about the place I've got a book about the Levellers. Amazingly, it's called "The Levellers". I got it in a second-hand bookshop years ago, and still haven't read it. Now, if only I knew what box it was in . . .

Edited to add -
Then, of course (if memory serves), there were the True Levellers, and also the Diggers. Nothing's ever straightforward, is it?

Always liked their music.

Re: Saturday, May 19th and Sunday, May 20th 2018

Sat 19 May, 2018 11:59 am

So it appears the rumours about Connaught were just rumours after all.

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Sat 19 May, 2018 12:02 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:So it appears the rumours about Connaught were just rumours after all.


Yes - but we must be running out of mainland counties to be Duke and Duchess of by now, surely?

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Sat 19 May, 2018 12:19 pm

Any guesses as to how many days the news will continue to be subsumed by all this crap?

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Sat 19 May, 2018 1:44 pm

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 6.html?amp
Starts well
Jeremy Corbyn warns 'perfect storm' of economic pressures facing workers fuelling 'mental health epidemic'

Then morphs into
The remarks from Mr Corbyn at Labour’s state of the economy conference in central London came as Prince Harry and Meghan Markle exchanged vows at their wedding in Windsor......

Hmm, I see what you mean. :?

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Sat 19 May, 2018 2:36 pm

Late drama over the Labour selection for Lewisham East - but the winner was still the widely expected one.

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Sat 19 May, 2018 2:41 pm

tinybgoat wrote:https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-mental-health-epidemic-job-insecurity-housing-crisis-debt-a8359056.html?amp
Starts well
Jeremy Corbyn warns 'perfect storm' of economic pressures facing workers fuelling 'mental health epidemic'

Then morphs into
The remarks from Mr Corbyn at Labour’s state of the economy conference in central London came as Prince Harry and Meghan Markle exchanged vows at their wedding in Windsor......

Hmm, I see what you mean. :?


Was there a video link to the wedding service of his speech? Novel, if so. Totally irrelevant, if not.

Or do you think the Independent was making a real world v the royal family\waste of money point?
Can but hope.

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Sat 19 May, 2018 2:51 pm

I'm predicting a birth (aka a drain on public funds - which will, unfortunately, delight "everyone") around March\early April 2019.



Edited to add a comma

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Sat 19 May, 2018 5:06 pm

I can only assume that everyone's sloped off to surreptitiously watch the wedding highlights . . .

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Sat 19 May, 2018 5:19 pm

PorFavor wrote:I'm predicting a birth (aka a drain on public funds - which will, unfortunately, delight "everyone") around March\early April 2019.



Edited to add a comma

& I predict that Corbyn will be deemed to be to slow in twittering his congratulations.
hmm late March/early April 2019, am I missing something significant?

Re: Saturday, May 19th and Sunday, May 20th 2018

Sat 19 May, 2018 5:28 pm

tinybgoat wrote:
PorFavor wrote:I'm predicting a birth (aka a drain on public funds - which will, unfortunately, delight "everyone") around March\early April 2019.



Edited to add a comma

& I predict that Corbyn will be deemed to be to slow in twittering his congratulations.
hmm late March/early April 2019, am I missing something significant?


No - not at all. I can't think of anything else that's happening around then. It's merely a passage of time which could do with a bit of enlivening. After all, there's no Budget and "Brexit" should all be sorted out.

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Sat 19 May, 2018 5:40 pm

PorFavor wrote: and "Brexit" should all be sorted out.


:lol!:

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Sat 19 May, 2018 6:02 pm

Re: Saturday, May 19th and Sunday, May 20th 2018

Sat 19 May, 2018 8:32 pm

https://www.conservativehome.com/thetor ... galia.html
"Bercow’s shortcomings as Speaker were distilled in his abandoning the regalia"
This is why whoever follows him as Speaker should restore the traditional uniform (for the clerks too ). It’s not just a matter of reactionary aesthetic sensibilities: the regalia played – and can play again – an important role in the proper functioning of the Speakership.

:shock:

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Sat 19 May, 2018 10:01 pm

Swifts have arrived.

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Sat 19 May, 2018 10:03 pm

tinybgoat wrote:https://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2018/05/bercows-shortcomings-as-speaker-were-distilled-in-his-abandoning-the-regalia.html
"Bercow’s shortcomings as Speaker were distilled in his abandoning the regalia"
This is why whoever follows him as Speaker should restore the traditional uniform (for the clerks too ). It’s not just a matter of reactionary aesthetic sensibilities: the regalia played – and can play again – an important role in the proper functioning of the Speakership.

:shock:


As somebody put it, peak ConHome :D

Re: Saturday, May 19th and Sunday, May 20th 2018

Sat 19 May, 2018 10:30 pm

gilsey wrote:Swifts have arrived.

I haven't seen any above our street, but a few some distance away last week, so hoping their arrival is staggered.
edit: update - following intensive research (lying on bed, with attic window open), it seems we, also have swifts.
The cat will be delighted.

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Sun 20 May, 2018 8:21 am

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... erra-leone
"From top sprinter to homeless in London – what happened next to Jimmy Thoronka?"
 the Home Office determination to prosecute the case as hard as it could, despite knowing of Jimmy’s traumatised state, significantly prolonged the agony. The fact that the government’s initial refusal of his case triggered hospitalisation and a suicide watch was no deterrent. What appeared to matter far more was sending tough messages about migration to swing voters: that this government is not so much robust as positively steel-capped

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Sun 20 May, 2018 9:25 am

Good morfternoon.

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Sun 20 May, 2018 9:39 am

gilsey wrote:Swifts have arrived.


Are you absolutely sure about that?

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Sun 20 May, 2018 9:43 am

Morning.

Still wall to wall wedding today, then.

"Making Britain Great Again" :sick:

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Sun 20 May, 2018 10:38 am

gilsey wrote:Swifts have arrived.


Here too. I love hearing them swooping over the roofs....

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Sun 20 May, 2018 12:46 pm

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -rees-mogg
"Brexit realists take control as May slaps down Rees-Mogg"
Sadly realist seems be relative, and 'slaps down'
metaphorical.

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Sun 20 May, 2018 1:09 pm

Mr citizen and I were able to get tickets in mid-April through the New Vic for the new production of Swan Lake in London yesterday.
It was wonderful.

Re: Saturday, May 19th and Sunday, May 20th 2018

Sun 20 May, 2018 1:10 pm

Good-afternoon, everyone

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Sun 20 May, 2018 1:23 pm

The first trip we've made to London in almost six years fell on the same day of Labour’s 2nd Annual State of the Economy conference held there too. Ha-Joon Chang spoke at the conference. I like him a lot.

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Sun 20 May, 2018 1:29 pm



Jonathan Pie

edited to add
this is brilliant
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Sun 20 May, 2018 1:42 pm

Hells Bells, the latest Cohen is readable !

Image

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... are_btn_tw

""Staffed by civil servants rather than the police and intelligence officers needed to protect free elections in the 2010s, the Electoral Commission has been hopeless. So uninterested was it in doing its duty, the pro-Remain Good Law Project sought a judicial review of its failure to investigate the payments to Grimes. It’s as if the Mueller inquiry into Trump’s Russia connections were being run by back-covering bureaucrats rather than investigators with the power to issue search warrants and offer plea-bargaining deals.

The hard work has been done by journalists and whistleblowers, who have been treated shockingly. ""

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Sun 20 May, 2018 1:43 pm

citizenJA wrote:Mr citizen and I were able to get tickets in mid-April through the New Vic for the new production of Swan Lake in London yesterday.
It was wonderful.
We failed to realise until f*****g Friday afternoon what we were heading into
We were trapped for over one half hour in a coach stopped dead in traffic less than a mile from the ROH with no way out and the radio broadcasting the wedding live on the intercom
We were alternatively serenaded and harassed by intoxicated sport enthusiasts enjoying the sun and game outside the pub during the traffic hold up
:rock:

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Sun 20 May, 2018 1:49 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... est-brexit
"Vote Leave faces scrutiny over £50m football contest"
Now it has emerged that a data set referred to by
Facebook , called “50million_remains”, is likely to be a competition that Vote Leave ran, in which it offered fans the chance to win £50m if they correctly predicted the outcome of every game in the European Championships that year.

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Sun 20 May, 2018 2:03 pm

“Individuals can neutralise guilt they might otherwise feel when stealing by telling themselves that there are no victims of the crime, no human being is actually being hurt by this, only some mega-corporation that can surely afford the loss of a few quid. In fact, the corporation has saved so much money by laying off all its cashiers that it is almost morally necessary to steal from them.”
---
Cashiers...diverted to different sections of our stores, ostensibly to better help customers mid-shop, until they will disappear altogether, along with human interaction, the one thing that seems to keep us on the straight and narrow.

- Nation of shoplifters

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2018 ... f-checkout

Re: Saturday, May 19th and Sunday, May 20th 2018

Sun 20 May, 2018 2:07 pm

Willow904 wrote:Morning.

Still wall to wall wedding today, then.

"Making Britain Great Again" :sick:
Please watch the Jonathan Pie skit I've linked above. It's not four minutes long and funny as hell

Re: Saturday, May 19th and Sunday, May 20th 2018

Sun 20 May, 2018 3:29 pm

tinybgoat wrote:https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/20/theresa-may-brexit-realists-jacob-rees-mogg
"Brexit realists take control as May slaps down Rees-Mogg"
Sadly realist seems be relative, and 'slaps down'
metaphorical.


Ah well, we have to take consolation in small things at present.
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