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Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 8:46 am
by refitman
Morning all.

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 9:11 am
by Willow904
Morning.

https://www.ft.com/content/021fd59c-63d ... f188287fff" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Bill Browder ‘arrested in Spain under Russian warrant’
Latest in a series of efforts to have outpoken Kremlin critic extradited to Russia

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 9:41 am
by tinybgoat
Morning.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... line-lucas" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Why I’m not going to stand again to be Green party leader" (Caroline Lucas)

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 10:05 am
by Willow904
tinybgoat wrote:Morning.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... line-lucas" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Why I’m not going to stand again to be Green party leader" (Caroline Lucas)
The article doesn't say if Jonathan Bartley is likely to stand on his own. He seems quite good from what I've seen of him and would probably do quite well.

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 11:10 am
by tinybgoat
Willow904 wrote:
tinybgoat wrote:Morning.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... line-lucas" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Why I’m not going to stand again to be Green party leader" (Caroline Lucas)
The article doesn't say if Jonathan Bartley is likely to stand on his own. He seems quite good from what I've seen of him and would probably do quite well.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/4 ... d-newsbeat" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"My own situation is that I have a son who I need to support who's disabled, I wouldn't be able to do a full time lead role, but I'm able to do it with our MP Caroline Lucas."
edit: browser on the blink.

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 11:27 am
by Willow904
tinybgoat wrote:
Willow904 wrote:
tinybgoat wrote:Morning.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... line-lucas" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Why I’m not going to stand again to be Green party leader" (Caroline Lucas)
The article doesn't say if Jonathan Bartley is likely to stand on his own. He seems quite good from what I've seen of him and would probably do quite well.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/4 ... d-newsbeat" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"My own situation is that I have a son who I need to support who's disabled, I wouldn't be able to do a full time lead role, but I'm able to do it with our MP Caroline Lucas."
edit: browser on the blink.
Oh ok, I didn't know that. The Greens have often had two leaders/spokespeople in the past so I didn't think much of it. I didn't realise he had a specific reason for wanting to jobshare. So someone new, then. Molly Scott Cato, maybe?

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 12:20 pm
by tinybgoat
@Willow
No I didn't know about Jonathan Bartley's son either,
(or his drumming), maybe he'll try & get re-elected in a job-share, maybe Amelia Womack?
(full time or job share, wonder how full time deputy leader compares to part-time leader, it's interesting because** there aren't many job-shares in comparable top positions inside or outside of politics)
edit ** oops, clumsily stating the obv & realise you all know this.

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 1:00 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
Apparently it's world otter day ;-)

Happy Otter Day everyone!

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 1:00 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
Actually it's colder 'ere.

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 1:06 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Willow904 wrote:
tinybgoat wrote:
Willow904 wrote: The article doesn't say if Jonathan Bartley is likely to stand on his own. He seems quite good from what I've seen of him and would probably do quite well.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/4 ... d-newsbeat" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"My own situation is that I have a son who I need to support who's disabled, I wouldn't be able to do a full time lead role, but I'm able to do it with our MP Caroline Lucas."
edit: browser on the blink.
Oh ok, I didn't know that. The Greens have often had two leaders/spokespeople in the past so I didn't think much of it. I didn't realise he had a specific reason for wanting to jobshare. So someone new, then. Molly Scott Cato, maybe?
After her campaign in Bristol West last year, perhaps not?!

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 1:14 pm
by Willow904
I've clearly missed something there. Will have to do some googling.

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 1:16 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Well its not just that her result was terrible (though it was) but ISTR she said a few eye-raising things during the campaign.

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 1:19 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
Interesting thread from the Sparrow on the ICM poll on attitudes to Brexit

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Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 1:21 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
Interesting that the biggest shift appears to be towards a general pessimism rather than just economic pessimism.

This is probably the shift that was needed. Folk realising Mogg world is not a place they want to live in?

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 1:26 pm
by ohsocynical
Ipswich Unemployed Action.
Campaigning for Unemployed Rights.

Universal Credit in Great Yarmouth, ” Food Bank has seen a 90pc increase in use since Universal Credit was introduced.”

https://intensiveactivity.wordpress.com ... ntroduced/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 1:27 pm
by Willow904
Bill Browder has been released btw. Russia have tried this before back in October. This comes on the back of the recent murder of a Russian journalist in Ukraine.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44299741" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 1:51 pm
by Willow904
Would love to think this true, there is certainly strong logic behind it:

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/e ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Conservatives are in crisis because “popular capitalism” is no longer possible.....

....The revenue from privatised assets, and the North Sea oil boom, underwrote Thatcherism as unemployment spiked, and funded costly income tax cuts. But these unique circumstances cannot be repeated. As left-wingers have taken to remarking, the problem with Thatcherism is that eventually you run out of other people’s assets.
In other words they've run out of family silver to sell.....

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 4:14 pm
by tinybgoat
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-44307611" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Russian journalist Arkady Babchenko, widely reported to have been assassinated in Kiev on Tuesday, has turned up alive at a press conference."

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 4:16 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
tinybgoat wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-44307611
"Russian journalist Arkady Babchenko, widely reported to have been assassinated in Kiev on Tuesday, has turned up alive at a press conference."
What a genuinely weird story.

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 4:47 pm
by tinybgoat
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
tinybgoat wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-44307611
"Russian journalist Arkady Babchenko, widely reported to have been assassinated in Kiev on Tuesday, has turned up alive at a press conference."
What a genuinely weird story.
The journalist was reportedly found by his wife bleeding at the entrance to his block of flats, shot several times in the back, and died in an ambulance.
He apparently did not tell his wife that the murder had been staged. "Special apologies to my wife," he said at the press conference.
Hmm, flowers or chocolates, tricky.

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 5:22 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Afternoon all.

Excellent day in the library - found everything that I need to finish off an article and found a wonderful description of a football match where fighting broke out on the pitch - from 1903...

This goes into the "shocked, shocked" category.

Exclusive: Secrecy over Agnew conflicts of interest

https://www.tes.com/news/exclusive-secr ... s-interest
When the peer was appointed, the DfE said he was “agreeing arrangements with the permanent secretary and Cabinet Office to ensure that processes are put in place to prevent any conflict of interest between his ministerial role and his charitable interests”.

Tes asked for a copy of these arrangements in October 2017. Under the Freedom of Information Act the DfE should have responded after 20 days.

Finally, after a delay of more than five months, the department said this month that it would not release the conflict of interest agreement because doing so “may invite external scrutiny”.
Yes, and we can't have that now can we?

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 6:22 pm
by PorFavor
Ambien maker responds to Roseanne Barr: 'Racism is not a known side effect'

The drug manufacturer Sanofi felt compelled to clarify that one of its most popular medications, the sedative Ambien, does not cause racism. They tweeted that “while all pharmaceutical treatments have side effects, racism is not a known side effect of any Sanofi medication”. (Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/201 ... nse-sanofi

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 6:24 pm
by Willow904
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
tinybgoat wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-44307611
"Russian journalist Arkady Babchenko, widely reported to have been assassinated in Kiev on Tuesday, has turned up alive at a press conference."
What a genuinely weird story.
I'd say.

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 6:25 pm
by tinyclanger2
For Frog222
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et al

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 6:28 pm
by tinyclanger2
For PFY
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et al

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 6:28 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Willow904 wrote:This comes on the back of the recent murder of a Russian journalist in Ukraine.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44299741" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Or perhaps not!!!

Though apparently B Johnson (who else?) denounced his "murder" AFTER today's news had emerged.......

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 6:37 pm
by tinyclanger2
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/eu ... 75836.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The EU has just passed a law that could end the problems with free movement which led to Brexit in the first place
Corporations will no longer be able to undercut local workers by exploiting migrants. Looking beyond Brexit, this law will make a big difference regardless of the option chosen for our future relationship with the EU

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 7:56 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
tinyclanger2 wrote:
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/eu ... 75836.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The EU has just passed a law that could end the problems with free movement which led to Brexit in the first place
Corporations will no longer be able to undercut local workers by exploiting migrants. Looking beyond Brexit, this law will make a big difference regardless of the option chosen for our future relationship with the EU
This is good news!

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 8:03 pm
by tinyclanger2
https://www.businessinsider.nl/britain- ... =true&r=UK" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A 14th straight YouGov poll shows Britain wishes it had never voted to leave the EU
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Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 8:11 pm
by tinyclanger2
“Rather than worrying about the colour of passports and new coins, they should be getting on with sorting out the serious issues that we’ll all have to deal with in the years and decades to come.”

Read more at: https://www.scotsman.com/news/plans-for ... -1-4747297" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 8:59 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
It's still scarily close though isn't it?

I mean there's no guarantee a second referendum wouldn't go the same way.

But good to see the change nevertheless.

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 9:38 pm
by tinyclanger2
scarily close indeed

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 10:23 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
Oh this is quite ridiculous

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... on-future/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

jeremy-corbyn-has-anti-semitic-views-makes-jews-question-future

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 10:29 pm
by gilsey
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -repay-11m" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A defunct European political grouping that was dominated by Ukip has been asked to repay €1.1m (£977,000) to the European parliament following an investigation into misspending of EU funds.

The Alliance for Direct Democracy in Europe was a Eurosceptic pan-European political party, until it was closed down after a 2016 auditors’ inquiry found misspending of EU funds, including on Nigel Farage’s bid to become an MP in the 2015 UK general election.
Farage, who is being docked half his MEP salary over a separate dispute, told the Guardian he “wouldn’t know” anything about ADDE finances, noting that he had never been a director. He accused the parliament of singling out Eurosceptic parties: “Ever since Brexit, the whole thing has been vindictive in the most extraordinary way.”
Diddums.

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 10:37 pm
by gilsey
This is technically a book review but can be read as an essay on populism, in the US but with the usual resonance here.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/ ... lism-books" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tl;dr
Why is our traditional left failing? It is true that the other side doesn’t play fair any more, but it’s also true that the Democrats are lost in a fantasy of white-collar benevolence. For all their algorithms and their lavishly detailed position papers, their leaders have little personal sympathy any longer with the travails of working people. Populism isn’t the name for this disease; it’s the cure.

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 10:49 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
Brexit: Time is running out, big business warns May

BBC
A group of major European companies has warned the Prime Minister they may cut investment without more clarity over the terms of Britain's EU exit.

Re: Wednesday 30th May 2018

Posted: Wed 30 May, 2018 11:02 pm
by adam
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Brexit: Time is running out, big business warns May

BBC
A group of major European companies has warned the Prime Minister they may cut investment without more clarity over the terms of Britain's EU exit.
and from the graun's version of the story the quote continues...
and said businesses want post-Brexit trade with the EU to be as frictionless as with a customs union.
And there's only one way that can be achieved.