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citizenJA wrote:
not just any concession
a significant concession


More a "we'll think about it" than a concession. Which is what parents tend to say when they mean "no".

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LOL

But to be fair, I'm sure Grieve, Lee, Morgan will have made it quite clear that if this amendment does not appear when the Bill goes back to the Lords she's toast.


Perhaps if May "forgets", the Lord's could pop it in for her ;)

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"This debate in parliament today is not about second referendums, it is about trying to manage what is an extremely risky and complex process as well as possible."

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it's about managing Tory government in the interests of Tory government; nothing more


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The mechanics of governing, Parliamentary negotiation, is too convoluted and opaque
Shouldn't need a Twitter account explaining how Parliament works


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So, has anyone worked out what the Grieve amendment means?


If adopted in its entirety it's very useful (I quoted a synopsis in a previous comment - see above) as it would prevent the government from pursuing a no deal Brexit (although nothing, now article 50 has been triggered, could stop a no deal Brexit being thrust upon us, unless we can unilaterally revoke it).

It needs 5c adopted to have real teeth and it's doubtful whether that bit will make it to the Lords amendment, though. 5a and 5b will still be good checks on negotiation drift, however. The government will have to face Parliament in October, with or without a withdrawal bill, which is good.

Edited - correction, end of November not October. 5c would provide what the Lords wanted, for parliament to decide in a binding vote what happens if no withdrawal agreement is approved by Feb 2019. I don't see that making the final cut, somehow.

Thanks Willow sorry I hadn't really absorbed your previous comment - it's been a busy day!


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the two nations I've currently the greatest access to are in the hands of people I don't trust at all


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And I don't like US and UK leadership at all either


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Change in management?

Staff training issues?

Or is this a reflection of a wider shift, a cultural shift, the natural consequence of the pushback against so called "political correctness"?

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You know how sports matches get the hashtags corresponding to the first thee letters of each team?

e.g. Rangers vs Celtic is #RANCEL

Well tonight it's Wales vs Russia

:dance:


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Insane(?) TMay finallly gives in to pressure

/government-relax-immigration-rules-overseas-doctors


https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... as-doctors

I wonder how it took so long, perhaps Sajid Javid made a difference ? But I do wonder why JHunt had not made a big point about it all before ?

Perhaps if you had 3000 fewer doctors it would have been marginally better for Budgets ?


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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
You know how sports matches get the hashtags corresponding to the first thee letters of each team?
e.g. Rangers vs Celtic is #RANCEL
Well tonight it's Wales vs Russia
:dance:


Always had fun with this. Some puerile dream friendlies:

Arsenal v Holland
Penarol v Nessoden IF
Wanderers v Kazakhstan

I'll get me coat :lol:


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