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Re: Tuesday 12th June 2018

Posted: Tue 12 Jun, 2018 6:27 pm
by Willow904
citizenJA wrote:not just any concession
a significant concession
More a "we'll think about it" than a concession. Which is what parents tend to say when they mean "no".

Re: Tuesday 12th June 2018

Posted: Tue 12 Jun, 2018 6:36 pm
by Willow904
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:@JA

LOL

But to be fair, I'm sure Grieve, Lee, Morgan will have made it quite clear that if this amendment does not appear when the Bill goes back to the Lords she's toast.
Perhaps if May "forgets", the Lord's could pop it in for her ;)

Re: Tuesday 12th June 2018

Posted: Tue 12 Jun, 2018 7:01 pm
by citizenJA
"And the government won..."

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/bl ... 0d612a680a" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Sure, like Leave won

Re: Tuesday 12th June 2018

Posted: Tue 12 Jun, 2018 7:37 pm
by citizenJA
Dominic Grieve told the Press Association...
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"This debate in parliament today is not about second referendums, it is about trying to manage what is an extremely risky and complex process as well as possible."

- Politics Blog
it's about managing Tory government in the interests of Tory government; nothing more

Re: Tuesday 12th June 2018

Posted: Tue 12 Jun, 2018 7:41 pm
by citizenJA
The mechanics of governing, Parliamentary negotiation, is too convoluted and opaque
Shouldn't need a Twitter account explaining how Parliament works

Re: Tuesday 12th June 2018

Posted: Tue 12 Jun, 2018 7:44 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
Willow904 wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:So, has anyone worked out what the Grieve amendment means?
If adopted in its entirety it's very useful (I quoted a synopsis in a previous comment - see above) as it would prevent the government from pursuing a no deal Brexit (although nothing, now article 50 has been triggered, could stop a no deal Brexit being thrust upon us, unless we can unilaterally revoke it).

It needs 5c adopted to have real teeth and it's doubtful whether that bit will make it to the Lords amendment, though. 5a and 5b will still be good checks on negotiation drift, however. The government will have to face Parliament in October, with or without a withdrawal bill, which is good.

Edited - correction, end of November not October. 5c would provide what the Lords wanted, for parliament to decide in a binding vote what happens if no withdrawal agreement is approved by Feb 2019. I don't see that making the final cut, somehow.
Thanks Willow sorry I hadn't really absorbed your previous comment - it's been a busy day!

Re: Tuesday 12th June 2018

Posted: Tue 12 Jun, 2018 7:48 pm
by citizenJA
the two nations I've currently the greatest access to are in the hands of people I don't trust at all

Re: Tuesday 12th June 2018

Posted: Tue 12 Jun, 2018 7:51 pm
by citizenJA
And I don't like US and UK leadership at all either

Re: Tuesday 12th June 2018

Posted: Tue 12 Jun, 2018 8:13 pm
by refitman
Gerard Coyne’s latest dead-horse-flogging attempt has ended in another humiliating failure after yet another attempt to legally overturn the democratic decision of Unite union members to re-elect Len McCluskey as their General Secretary was witheringly dismissed by an Employment Appeals Tribunal (EAT) judge.
https://skwawkbox.org/2018/06/12/coyne- ... -and-weak/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tuesday 12th June 2018

Posted: Tue 12 Jun, 2018 8:17 pm
by citizenJA
John Crace

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... amendments" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tuesday 12th June 2018

Posted: Tue 12 Jun, 2018 8:27 pm
by Willow904
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@dgp202
Why Thorpe Park no longer care about disabled people: a thread
9:06 pm · 10 Jun 2018
Change in management?

Staff training issues?

Or is this a reflection of a wider shift, a cultural shift, the natural consequence of the pushback against so called "political correctness"?

Re: Tuesday 12th June 2018

Posted: Tue 12 Jun, 2018 8:52 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
You know how sports matches get the hashtags corresponding to the first thee letters of each team?

e.g. Rangers vs Celtic is #RANCEL

Well tonight it's Wales vs Russia

:dance:

Re: Tuesday 12th June 2018

Posted: Tue 12 Jun, 2018 8:58 pm
by citizenJA
goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA

Re: Tuesday 12th June 2018

Posted: Tue 12 Jun, 2018 9:00 pm
by frog222
Insane(?) TMay finallly gives in to pressure

/government-relax-immigration-rules-overseas-doctors


https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... as-doctors" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I wonder how it took so long, perhaps Sajid Javid made a difference ? But I do wonder why JHunt had not made a big point about it all before ?

Perhaps if you had 3000 fewer doctors it would have been marginally better for Budgets ?

Re: Tuesday 12th June 2018

Posted: Tue 12 Jun, 2018 11:18 pm
by GetYou
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:You know how sports matches get the hashtags corresponding to the first thee letters of each team?
e.g. Rangers vs Celtic is #RANCEL
Well tonight it's Wales vs Russia
:dance:
Always had fun with this. Some puerile dream friendlies:

Arsenal v Holland
Penarol v Nessoden IF
Wanderers v Kazakhstan

I'll get me coat :lol: