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Thursday 14th June 2018
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Author:  citizenJA [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 3:14 pm ]
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Wait...the line was, 'All you Labour PM's fall in the love with the Queen'

Author:  RogerOThornhill [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 3:24 pm ]
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Anyone fancy reading an utterly ill-informed pile of shite about school spending? Go on, you know you want to...

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/t ... 1528883418

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As table 4 overleaf illustrates, the overwhelming amount of money spent by schools is on staff costs. The biggest item of expenditure of schools in England was teaching staff costs, with schools spending an average of £783,326 last year. This is more than 11 times the amount spent on learning resources for children.12 This is significant for a number of reasons. It highlights the fact that pay for salary is the biggest item of expenditure for schools in England. It also reveals just how much more is being spent by schools on teaching staff costs than on educational resources for children.


:roll:

It gets worse...

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The third largest item of expenditure is on administrative and clerical staff. Schools in England, therefore, spent on average £86,825 on staff who have limited contact with children.18 This is money which could have been spent on educational resources for pupils.


Yeah, who needs a school office anyway?

Cretin.

Author:  adam [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 3:29 pm ]
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It is, by any chance, written by somebody who has some educational resources they'd like to sell?

Author:  gilsey [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 3:33 pm ]
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HindleA wrote:
https://www.leighday.co.uk/News/News-2018/June-2018/First-legal-challenge-against-Universal-Credit-fin

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Commenting on the case, Tessa Gregory a partner at Leigh Day, who represented both claimants, said:

“This is the first legal test of the roll out of Universal Credit and the system has been found to be unlawfully discriminating against some of society’s most vulnerable.........................................

“Today’s decision shows again that Universal Credit is not delivering what was promised at the outset. It is not working. It’s not working for the disabled, it’s not working for parents, it’s not working for low-income and part-time employees and it’s not working for the self-employed.

“The government needs to halt the rollout and completely overhaul the system to meet peoples’ needs, not condemn them to destitution. If this doesn’t happen further legal challenges will inevitably follow.”

You wouldn't expect lawyers in general to be anything but Conservative but this govt seems bent on turning them off in droves, judging by my twitter feed. See also legal aid, shambolic court system, housing, immigration, etc.

Author:  RogerOThornhill [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 3:33 pm ]
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No, he's a "researcher" for the TPA who seems never to have set foot in a school or knows what goes on there.

Author:  gilsey [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 3:35 pm ]
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frog222 wrote:
HindleA wrote:
https://www.leighday.co.uk/News/News-2018/June-2018/First-legal-challenge-against-Universal-Credit-fin


First legal challenge against Universal Credit finds Government acted unlawfully

"" Prior to moving, both TP and AR were in receipt of the Severe Disability Premium (SDP) and Enhanced Disability Premium (EDP), which were specifically aimed at meeting the additional care needs of severely disabled people living alone with no carer.

Recently released figures from the DWP suggest that 500,000 individuals are in receipt of the SDP . Both the SDP and EDP have been axed and are not available under Universal Credit.

When they moved both TP and AR were required to make a claim for Universal Credit as they moved into local authorities where the controversial new benefit was being rolled out. According to both the men, they were advised by DWP staff that their benefit entitlement would not change.""

Anyone becoming severely disabled after the introduction of UC won't be entitled to 'transitional protection' and will just have to suck it up, I assume.

Author:  RogerOThornhill [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 3:37 pm ]
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Another one...

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It is therefore clear that schools in England are spending vast amounts of money on staff costs and other items of expenditure. Although some of this is essential, questions should be asked whether the vast majority of it is essential and represents good value for money, especially when one considers that this money could be spent on educational resources for pupils.



:D

Actually I'll edit it...

Author:  adam [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 3:43 pm ]
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We tend to take the view that the best educational resources we have are teaching staff and support staff, so we deliberately overstaff departments so they can plan on using their additionality - team teaching, small group and one to one stuff, more space for preparation time, more chance for specialists in particular areas to lead...

Author:  HindleA [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 3:44 pm ]
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@gilsey,not the only removal/"reform" applicable,if you happen to be in the nexus,one of a few.Taken with the stated intention to increase charging for any support,very dark days indeed.There were reasons,filling gaps etc historical amnesia and/or pure misanthropy.

Author:  PaulfromYorkshire [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 3:44 pm ]
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Apropos of not much in particular, apparently one of the PMs that Brenda got on best with back in the day was Harold Wilson.

No-one can resist a Huddersfield lad ;-)

Author:  PaulfromYorkshire [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 4:12 pm ]
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When even LauraK starts taking the piss, they are in trouble!

@bbclaurak

1. Amendmentgate latest - Remainers fear No 10 has stuck in a kicker that makes amendment meaningless by making it unamendable (I know) and as far as they are concerned, that's not what they agreed to

2. In the manner of these kinds of things the architect of the deal, Dominic Grieve, is now on a train, no one knows exactly what is going on and it's meant to be published in the next 21 minutes

3. Essentially - not certain that the compromise that saved the govt from defeat on Tuesday is going to hold

Author:  PaulfromYorkshire [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 4:20 pm ]
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@Anna_Soubry
6m6 minutes ago

I understand the Govt has tabled an amendment that has not been agreed by Dominic Grieve. Grateful for the conversations but without consultation what was agreed earlier today has been changed.

Author:  PaulfromYorkshire [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 4:23 pm ]
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@bbclaurak

Remainers rejecting govt's compromise-Grieve says govt amendment is 'unacceptable' - govt has indeed made it unamendable which means they could theoretically turn it into a confidence vote - Grieve says it was 'inexplicably changed' at last minute, and was not agreed by him

Author:  PorFavor [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 5:31 pm ]
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
@bbclaurak

Remainers rejecting govt's compromise-Grieve says govt amendment is 'unacceptable' - govt has indeed made it unamendable which means they could theoretically turn it into a confidence vote - Grieve says it was 'inexplicably changed' at last minute, and was not agreed by him


Where's Robert Peston when you need him . . . ?

Author:  Willow904 [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 5:38 pm ]
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May's not concerned about this, then:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... h-may-fail
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Rebel peers are awaiting the outcome of talks between Conservative MPs and the government over a meaningful parliamentary Brexit vote on Thursday, as they weigh up whether to force the issue in the House of Lords next week.

Lord Hailsham – the former Tory cabinet minister Douglas Hogg – is poised to table his amendment, strengthening the hand of parliament in the event that Brexit talks break down, if Commons rebel leader Dominic Grieve is not satisfied with the compromise offered by the government.

Author:  citizenJA [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 6:08 pm ]
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How long do these weekly chats last between qe2 and the PM, please? Anyone know?

Author:  citizenJA [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 6:09 pm ]
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Politically neutral my a**

Author:  Willow904 [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 6:19 pm ]
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Was May trying to turn the meaningful vote amendment, which she knew she would lose as an ordinary amendment, into a confidence vote making it much harder for the Tory remainers to rebel?

Author:  tinyclanger2 [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 6:57 pm ]
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Quote:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -rees-mogg
A City firm co-founded by the influential Conservative backbencher, Jacob Rees-Mogg, has set up an investment fund in Ireland and is warning prospective clients about the financial dangers of the sort of hard Brexit favoured by the Tory MP.

Author:  PaulfromYorkshire [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 7:25 pm ]
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Sarah Wollaston MP
‏@sarahwollaston

Ah ha, so just to be clear we are now going to have to amend the ‘unamendable’ after the agreed amendable amendment acquired a sneaky sting in the tail. What a time to be alive...

Author:  PaulfromYorkshire [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 7:26 pm ]
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Willow904 wrote:
Was May trying to turn the meaningful vote amendment, which she knew she would lose as an ordinary amendment, into a confidence vote making it much harder for the Tory remainers to rebel?

I suspect Willow that trying to analyse the current situation as though it involves rational actors may be misguided :twisted:

May and her team are losing the plot, I'd say.

Author:  tinyclanger2 [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 7:29 pm ]
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
Sarah Wollaston MP
‏@sarahwollaston

Ah ha, so just to be clear we are now going to have to amend the ‘unamendable’ after the agreed amendable amendment acquired a sneaky sting in the tail. What a time to be alive...


Have just watched Iron Sky.
Not sure why.
But anyway, it felt quite plausible.

Author:  citizenJA [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 8:38 pm ]
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goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA

Author:  PorFavor [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 8:39 pm ]
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@citizenJA

Night night.

Author:  PorFavor [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 8:47 pm ]
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tinyclanger2 wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
Sarah Wollaston MP
‏@sarahwollaston

Ah ha, so just to be clear we are now going to have to amend the ‘unamendable’ after the agreed amendable amendment acquired a sneaky sting in the tail. What a time to be alive...


Have just watched Iron Sky.
Not sure why.
But anyway, it felt quite plausible.


Kelly's Heroes - the bridge scene (again).

(Not familiar with Iron Sky - other than being aware that it's sci-fi (I think)).



Edited - brackets

Author:  Eric_WLothian [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 8:56 pm ]
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citizenJA wrote:
How long do these weekly chats last between qe2 and the PM, please? Anyone know?


Sorry about the source!

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The audience can be no more than an informal briefing – a courtesy where the PM brings the sovereign up to speed with what happened in the past week and what is expected in the following one – or it can be a great deal more. Some sessions last barely 20 minutes with no refreshment, others stretch to an hour or two with drinks.


https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/37 ... M-revealed

Author:  Sky'sGoneOut [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 11:15 pm ]
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Question Time report...I got in late and a bit pissed so only saw the last half an hour but I'll offer some observations regardless.

It was from Caernarfon, I practically camped there last weekend.

Isabel Oakeshott: I became fixated upon the fact that her make up meant her face didn't match the rest of her body. This resulted in a bit of a 'Joker effect' which I found a bit disquieting. Also she appeared to be a simpleton.

Matthew Wright: Played to the gallery. Sleazy populist playing a man of the people. Didn't like him.

Dominic Grieve: Tory lawyer nerd. I don't think he's the sharpest tool in the box but he's an honourable Tory and they're like hen's teeth so Chris Packham should try to preserve him as a species in some kind of breeding programme.

John Mann: An embarrassment to the Labour party. I don't think I need go any further than that.

Leanne Wood: Wonderful, if it wasn't for people like Leanne Wales would be a dull backwater afterthought left to rot by the English, people may mock Plaid Cymru but without them Wales wouldn't have the distinctive different character it has today, especially in North Wales.

Author:  tinyclanger2 [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 11:25 pm ]
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Quote:
Arron Banks says Brexit is exhausting and may leave politics
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... is-tedious


Quote:
“We’re still very friendly with the DUP and I still think [Nigel] Farage to enter parliament via the DUP is a viable option, they love him over there,” said Banks.

Author:  tinyclanger2 [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 11:26 pm ]
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Banks, who said he would be taking a long break over the summer, concluded: “This Brexit stuff is all getting very tedious.”


:flick: :flick: :flick: :flick: :flick: :flick: :flick: :flick: :flick: :flick:

Author:  tinyclanger2 [ Thu 14 Jun, 2018 11:28 pm ]
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Quote:
New York files lawsuit against Trump and his charity over 'persistently illegal conduct'
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 98996.html

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