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Author:  refitman [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 5:02 am ]
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Morning all.

Author:  HindleA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 5:08 am ]
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Morning.Bloody 'ell.Late night or early rise.

Author:  HindleA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 5:19 am ]
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https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... 19#history


Consultation outcome

Warm Home Discount Scheme 2018 to 2019


In what seemed like eons ago and more hopeful times,not least because it was not beyond the realms of possibility I argued for the extension of WFP to DLA recipients high rate care/certain conditions.

Author:  HindleA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 5:27 am ]
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My argument is that if you want to facillitate otherwise in hospital/lessen need for "intervention" treatments in own home,attend to the extra costs in a more bespoke fashion rather than income based,not least because obviously with high costs you are more likely to become low incomed over time.We did receive payments from hospital for dialysis extra costs/companies have schemes (as bemoaned by IDS but now published by DWP as part of
possible support) I think this should be more general.DLA is for extra costs,just think there is a possibility of supplementing in one way or another.

Author:  HindleA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 5:37 am ]
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The "devoted most of his life/expert" description of a guy who didn't know the first thing,still does my head in.

Author:  refitman [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 5:41 am ]
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HindleA wrote:
Morning.Bloody 'ell.Late night or early rise.

Early start. Got a long day of rugby ahead (first match kicked off half a n hour ago):
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Author:  HindleA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 5:48 am ]
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Ah ok.

:D

Author:  refitman [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 5:57 am ]
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Maybe you should get control of your own backbenchers then? :wall:

Author:  HindleA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 6:01 am ]
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https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/y ... -hospital/


Young woman evicted from care home while critically ill in hospital


Her case highlights once again the drastic shortage of accessible housing across the country.


Penalise those in suitably adapted homes,only fair.

Author:  frog222 [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 7:26 am ]
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/brexit-latest-david-davis-uk-eu-parliament-tory-theresa-may-mps-a8401166.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 01166.html

"" The source added: “Amendability was the issue on which he chose to dig his heels in, and in the end that was the decision.” ""

Showdown next week ?

Author:  frog222 [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 8:37 am ]
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The Art of The Deal (Kim-style)

/kim-jong-un-the-story-of-the-boy-dictator-who-bested-the-us-president


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... -president

Author:  PaulfromYorkshire [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 8:47 am ]
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Morning All

@Frog about to read your Brexit piece. In the mean time, here's a very interesting, and quite long, piece from the Irish perspective.

https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2018/061 ... ly-brexit/

I hadn't really thought before about the political pressure on the Irish government, who risk being seen as too placatory towards Brexit by their own voters.

Author:  AnatolyKasparov [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 9:37 am ]
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refitman wrote:
HindleA wrote:
Morning.Bloody 'ell.Late night or early rise.

Early start. Got a long day of rugby ahead (first match kicked off half a n hour ago):
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There are also (uniquely) four WC games today, the first kicking off in less than half an hour.

Author:  PaulfromYorkshire [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 9:58 am ]
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:lol:

Quote:
Priti Patel MP
‏@patel4witham
30m30 minutes ago

It is Government policy to leave the EU. Instead of getting bogged down in factionalism the entire Government irrespective of the stance of individual Ministers on Brexit must show national leadership & get out there, extol the benefits of Brexit & deliver for Britain.

We look forward to the extolations! Or extolments. Or whatever they are.

Author:  HindleA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 10:00 am ]
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Good morning,just a newsletter from your MP
Yer what Tories Out do not encroach this property again (appropriate shooing gesture) followed by list of just some of the worst policies.
Neighbourhood Attempted Tory invasion of number 7 emergency action was immediate.Sweet tea etc.

Author:  HindleA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 10:02 am ]
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I joke,but seriously discombulates me.

Author:  refitman [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 10:13 am ]
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
refitman wrote:
HindleA wrote:
Morning.Bloody 'ell.Late night or early rise.

Early start. Got a long day of rugby ahead (first match kicked off half a n hour ago):
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There are also (uniquely) four WC games today, the first kicking off in less than half an hour.

ODI against Australia has just started as well. Spoilt for choice today.

Author:  refitman [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 11:12 am ]
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I see Labour have picked the wrong type of Jew to be their in-house council on anti-Semitism. At least according to Luciana Berger. https://twitter.com/lucianaberger/statu ... 4924007425

Author:  HindleA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 11:44 am ]
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Last week I came to the House to answer an Urgent Question regarding two PIP appeals to the Upper Tribunal (known as AN and JM) that I had withdrawn. I was unable to comment on a related case that was pending an appeal to the Court of Appeal (known as LB) as it concerned ongoing litigation, and I committed to updating the House at the earliest opportunity on this case when I was able to do so.

I carefully considered this appeal and have decided to not continue with it in order to provide certainty to the claimant involved. The March 2017 amending regulations (Regulations 2(2) and (3) of the Social Security (Personal Independence Payment) (Amendment) Regulations 2017) clarified the Department’s position on PIP Daily Living Activity 3 (managing a therapy or monitoring a health condition) and therefore further litigation is unnecessary.

On Wednesday 13th June I received confirmation that the Court of Appeal had consented to my Department’s application to withdraw the appeal in the LB case, and I am pleased to confirm the claimant will be receiving arrears of benefit as soon as possible.

"My Department has now begun work to apply the law as stated by the Upper Tribunal in LB and will take all steps necessary to implement it in the best interests of all affected claimants for the period 28 November 2016 (the date of the Upper Tribunal decision in LB) to 16 March 2017 (when the amendment to activity 3 came into force). This work will include a review exercise later in the year. We expect that around 1,000 claimants will be affected."

https://www.parliament.uk/business/publ ... ns%2clords

Author:  citizenJA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 12:14 pm ]
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refitman wrote:
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Maybe you should get control of your own backbenchers then? :wall:

Let us be clear. Theresa May wants to do the right thing, she cares, she says she cares, clearly. Clearly she says she cares. If only she had the authority and power to do what she cares about, she'd clearly clear the country of care.

Author:  citizenJA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 12:16 pm ]
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Good-afternoon, everyone

Author:  AnatolyKasparov [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 12:18 pm ]
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citizenJA wrote:
refitman wrote:
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Maybe you should get control of your own backbenchers then? :wall:

Let us be clear. Theresa May wants to do the right thing, she cares, she says she cares, clearly. Clearly she says she cares. If only she had the authority and power to do what she cares about, she'd clearly clear the country of care.


Sarcastic, much? :D

Author:  citizenJA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 12:19 pm ]
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Quote:
Tory MP Christopher Chope blocks progress of upskirting bill
...sole objector to proposal to make it a crime to take photos up skirts
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... rting-bill
(cJA emphasis)

Who made this guy boss?

Author:  citizenJA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 12:20 pm ]
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yep

Author:  adam [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 2:34 pm ]
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One of Chope's arguments for his behaviour in the commons is that he disagrees on principle with Private Member's Bills, saying that they simply don't get the same kind of parliamentary scrutiny. Well...

Tory MP who blocked private bill to outlaw upskirting has sponsored 47 private bills himself

Quote:
If he is so against private members’ bills in principle, then why has Chope himself sponsored a private members’ bill to make Brexit a bank holiday? And how come he has also personally sponsored a private members’ bill to force NHS patients to pay for treatment.

Author:  AnatolyKasparov [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 2:37 pm ]
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Its often the hypocrisy that gets you in the end.

Author:  adam [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 2:39 pm ]
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And a twitter thread that fairly seamlessly pulls together a number of different often out of view discussions about what's going on...opening...

Quote:
Interesting trip to France today: 1. Took taxi to airport. Lovely taxi driver who voted for #Brexit. I explained about the Govt. dithering about leaving Euratom and the risk of losing access to Technetium-99m, essential for UK medical imaging...

Author:  refitman [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 4:08 pm ]
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Cor blimey, thunderstorm just started here. Looks like the rain you get in movies.

Author:  Willow904 [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 4:11 pm ]
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https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/m ... ssion=true

Quote:
In an extraordinary interview with German newspaper Zeit, Nigel Farage called the reporter a “nutcase”, told him he should be on a “comedy show”, and was “away with the fairies”, and terminated the interview after the fourth intervention from his press officer.


He doesn't like being asked questions about his meetings with Russians and Julian Assange for some reason. Much happier having cosy pro-Brexit propaganda chats on the BBC I expect.

Author:  HindleA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 5:05 pm ]
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... ve-species

Author:  Willow904 [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 5:20 pm ]
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HindleA wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jun/16/koala-faecal-transplant-could-save-species


That's just plain weird.

Author:  HindleA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 6:00 pm ]
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"Interesting"

Author:  AnatolyKasparov [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 6:08 pm ]
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So after all the mockery, it seems Labour Live might not have turned out that badly in the end?

Author:  HindleA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 6:16 pm ]
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Don't understand the "sneering/bitterness".Nothing wrong with attempts at engagement.A large dose of hypocrisy given "numbers don't matter" line.

(I do)

Author:  HindleA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 6:42 pm ]
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Didn't know Izzard was a brainwashed Corbynista,you live and unlearn.

Author:  HindleA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 6:44 pm ]
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He tried a sort of Glastonbury for comedy which ran a couple of years,didn't continue.

Author:  frog222 [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 7:42 pm ]
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Willow904 wrote:
HindleA wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jun/16/koala-faecal-transplant-could-save-species


That's just plain weird.

Willow - it sounds weird, but research on the microbiome is truly 21st century medicine ! Several programmes on Radio4 and in the press only this year, and fascinating that they had results on those koalas.

/the-human-microbiome-why-our-microbes-could-be-key-to-our-health

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/m ... our-health

After all if we all have two or three kilos of different types of them inside us they must be doing something ... :-)

Author:  HindleA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 8:19 pm ]
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@Cja thank your partner for assistance in crossword solving,"Atticus Finch",sent me on my way.

Author:  HindleA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 8:22 pm ]
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"Buys the farm"=dies,a new one on me.

Author:  HindleA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 9:10 pm ]
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"We think you are unfair living here,but here's a propaganda sheet from your MP"


(Still going on)

Author:  adam [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 9:21 pm ]
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HindleA wrote:
"Buys the farm"=dies,a new one on me.


Quote:
May come from the common reflection that servicemen would often dream of saving up to go home and buying a farm to settle on after the war or their deployment is up, but the deceased receive a small plot of land (the grave) automatically.

Author:  tinybgoat [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 9:45 pm ]
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... eport-says
"Trump praises Kim on Fox & Friends: 'I want my people to do the same'"
Quote:
“probably 7,500” US soldiers killed in the Korean war, which he claimed was already producing results. He said again that “parents” of such soldiers had appealed to him.
The Korean war took place between 1950 and 1953, which would make the survival of any parents of soldiers killed in the war highly unlikely.

Author:  citizenJA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 9:47 pm ]
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I received an e-mail from Labour MEP Siôn Simon
House of Fraser going under means thousands of West Midlands jobs lost
Land Rover is leaving the UK

Author:  tinybgoat [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 10:03 pm ]
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https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... dy-wigmore
"Arron Banks, Brexit and the Russia connection"

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... dy-wigmore
"Leave. EU faces new questions over contacts with Russia"
Quote:
A leader of the Leave.EU campaign suggested sending a “message of support” to the Russian ambassador after the then foreign secretary made a speech that was critical of Russia, documents seen by the Observer suggest.

The material also appears to show that Andy Wigmore, spokesman for the Leave.EU campaign and the business partner of Arron Banks, the biggest funder of Brexit, passed confidential legal documents to high-ranking officials at the Russian embassy and then denied it to parliament.

Author:  citizenJA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 10:57 pm ]
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goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA

Author:  HindleA [ Sat 16 Jun, 2018 11:31 pm ]
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https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... -nhs-boost

Author:  tinybgoat [ Sun 17 Jun, 2018 4:12 am ]
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HindleA wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jun/16/may-to-unveil-20-billion-pound-a-year-nhs-boost


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co ... h-44495598
"NHS gets £20bn 'birthday present'"

Quote:
"Some people may remember seeing a figure on the side of a bus a while back of £350m a week in cash," she said.

"I can tell you that what I'm announcing will mean that in 2023-24 there will be about £600m a week, more in cash, going into the NHS.

"That will be through the Brexit dividend. The fact that we're no longer sending vast amounts of money every year to the EU once we leave the EU."

Quote:
But Mrs May also acknowledged that "as a country" more will need to be contributed.
She did not spell out that would require tax rises, although a recent report by the Institute for Fiscal Studies said they would be needed as it was hard to imagine the money could be found from economic growth or raiding other areas of government spending

Author:  PaulfromYorkshire [ Sun 17 Jun, 2018 8:29 am ]
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@tinybgoat

This is a tricky one!

Reading about the Brexit dividend on Twitter, I realise it's really important that we highlight that the problems with the NHS and the feeble economy originate with the Coalition. It was the Coalition that got us into this mess and painted the backdrop on which a Leave vote became possible.

IMHO, arguments that there is no Brexit dividend, while largely spot on, are fraught with difficulty!

Author:  frog222 [ Sun 17 Jun, 2018 9:08 am ]
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
@tinybgoat

This is a tricky one!

Reading about the Brexit dividend on Twitter, I realise it's really important that we highlight that the problems with the NHS and the feeble economy originate with the Coalition. It was the Coalition that got us into this mess and painted the backdrop on which a Leave vote became possible.

IMHO, arguments that there is no Brexit dividend, while largely spot on, are fraught with difficulty!


Parties spending on the NHS impact of Tory Austerity --
Image
The brexit dividend depends first on how one arrives at a net figure on current contributions/benefits , and then on a fantasy projection of GDP after brexit !

PS pic from https://www.bbc.com/news/health-44495598

Author:  PaulfromYorkshire [ Sun 17 Jun, 2018 9:10 am ]
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Thanks Frog that's quite stark isn't it?

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