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Airbus warns 'it could quit UK if there is a no-deal Brexit'


http://www.itv.com/news/wales/2018-06-2 ... al-brexit/

Businesses want a soft Brexit. They like the single market and have a choice of a lot of different countries to move to if we leave it.

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""It was with both surprise and utter bemusement that I received Theresa May’s invitation to a reception on Friday afternoon at 10 Downing Street for the 70th anniversary of Windrush.""

turning-down-theresa-may-windrush-reception-caribbean-hostile-environment

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... nvironment

The cheek of the woman, when the hundreds of problems (to put it mildly) caused by her and her predecessors at the HO have not yet been resolved ! There is even no right of appeal against the 'new' system's decisions .


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Toady Interviews this morning —

Windrush examples from decades ago, inhuman stuff and very dignified victims.
Airbus chief – 14k direct jobs to be lost, estimated 100k indirect
Privatised probation service (Grayling) a complete disaster
Tax increases — breaks election promise, plus really going ahead on Corporation tax-cut ?
(Foreign Investment down over time despite previous CorpTax reductions…)

No good news for Tories … unless you are with ABdePJohnson on “having faith”, and that conquers all :-) .


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Morning all.

I caught a discussion on Today about the problems the Chancellor faces about which taxes he should raise - or rather not cut - to pay for the NHS increase.

And cutting Corporation Tax came up - Lord O'Neill was decidedly sceptical about the idea that cutting CT rates led to greater investment as it hadn't been the case here.

Well, I thought, fancy that...

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Another in the ongoing series of "I really didn't see that coming..."


Probation system 'a mess' despite reforms, say MPs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44568810

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The Commons justice committee said it was "unconvinced" reforms could ever deliver an effective probation service.

In 2014 the system was partially privatised and monitoring extended to those who had served short jail terms.
The government said there had been "challenges" and it is due to publish the results of a review next month.


"Despite"?

No, "because of."

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R4 segment on probation this morning was a joke. No context at all in terms of how the nationalised service was fine before part of it was privatised and the bit that wasn't privatised is still fine. "There's no need to renationalise" was one quote and "it's only the less serious offenders who are affected" was a complacent remark from our interviewer, as if those who committed lesser offences don't matter - was pulled up a bit by the interviewee who pointed out minor offenders can turn into major offenders. As it's kind of the point of an effective probation system to prevent that, the interviewer really was tying themselves up in knots in an attempt to downplay the failure. And of course no mention of the widespread and unanimous warnings across the board not to privatise probation in the first place that were ignored.

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With every policy change the question ought to be asked "What problem is this trying to solve?"

But we know it won't be as the question is always "How can we involve the private sector in this area?"

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RogerOThornhill wrote:
With every policy change the question ought to be asked "What problem is this trying to solve?"

But we know it won't be as the question is always "How can we involve the private sector in this area?"

"What problem is this trying to solve?"

But we know it won't be as the question is always "How can we involve the private sector in this area?"


Excellently put .

The Military Plan ( taught as platoon leaders 101, which also applies to generals, and above all ... governments .)

1. Define The Objective !


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It's a style council cafe bleu sort of day,I've decided.


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Faisal Islam on Airbus, with their risk assessment.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/ ... 2685431809

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https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/ ... -education


Amanda Spielman's speech at the Wellington Festival of Education
Ofsted's Chief Inspector discusses 'intelligent' and responsible inspections, curriculum research and our work developing the 2019 education inspection framework.


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Have your say on how government can support stronger connections, and share your experience on what works to tackle loneliness.


I am fortunate in never having felt lonely,certainly disconnected at times ie.at variance,politically,socially,the lone voice but that is a "double edged sword" or perhaps I'm an awkward bastard,in more ways than one.


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Worth noting that manufacturing is 10% of UK economy

It's 40% of Flintshire economy where Airbus Broughton is located.


But let's just stick two fingers up at the EU and leave...

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I would argue there is pressure/expectation that you should in certain situations,widowerhood I find is learning to live with varying degrees of pain and developing a different way of relating but feel she is still with me,I actually found it harder when it was an every second weekend relationship.


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This (if you can read it).

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Tracey Thorn singing The Paris Match! The lovely slow piano version of My Ever Changing Moods! I think Cafe Bleu is my favourite of their studio albums (although I have a sneaking thing about Confessions of a Pop Group too).

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No good news for Tories … unless you are with ABdePJohnson on “having faith”, and that conquers all :-) .


I'm old enough to remember when it was the hard left who had this maddening idee fixe that just "really believing" in stuff would magically make it happen.


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This one reveals so much, anyone for Fake News ? —

”In June 2017, Time asked Trump to take down fake covers featuring him from the walls of his golf clubs.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... d-on-cover


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Worth noting that manufacturing is 10% of UK economy

It's 40% of Flintshire economy where Airbus Broughton is located.


But let's just stick two fingers up at the EU and leave...


"THEY NEED US MORE THAN WE NEED THEM!!!!"

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RogerOThornhill wrote:
With every policy change the question ought to be asked "What problem is this trying to solve?"
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We've already matched yesterday's post total, and its still only lunchtime ;)


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I think I'm a cranky elderly person
I'll get over it


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Always remember, being elderly is better than the alternative.


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Government is confident of Brexit deal that will prevent job cuts, Downing Street says
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I'm genuinely frightened about current political affairs
I've lost a lot of weight and I'm anxious a lot


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It doesn't have to be this way
Tory government have chosen their course of action


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Not quite sure this one understands how business works...

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I'm genuinely frightened about current political affairs
I've lost a lot of weight and I'm anxious a lot


Look after yourself, first and foremost.

I know things often look bad, but worrying overmuch about what you can't change rarely ends well.


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Always remember, being elderly is better than the alternative.
Growing younger is good too
Extraordinary ninety-year-old woman I met many years ago told me that


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I'm genuinely frightened about current political affairs
I've lost a lot of weight and I'm anxious a lot


Look after yourself, first and foremost.

I know things often look bad, but worrying overmuch about what you can't change rarely ends well.

You don't have to be religious to see the sense in this --

The Serenity Prayer
The full text of the original "Serenity Prayer" written by Reinhold Niebuhr (1892-1971)

GOD, grant me the serenity
to accept the things
I cannot change,

Courage to change the
things I can, and the
wisdom to know the difference.

ETC !

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I'm genuinely frightened about current political affairs
I've lost a lot of weight and I'm anxious a lot


Look after yourself, first and foremost.

I know things often look bad, but worrying overmuch about what you can't change rarely ends well.
Thank you for this, AK, I wanted reassurance.
It's real, the damage policy and actions government leadership insist on causes hardship. I'm one of many people, one of millions of people materially, adversely affected.


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House of Fraser to close 31 stores involving up to 6,000 job losses. (Sky TV news)

Obviously, unemployment will be recorded as having fallen again. It's only logical, after all.


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I'm listening to this series of short broadcasts from the beginning ---

National Health Stories

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b6hxk5

Poor Treatment ( the first broadcast )

In a series tracing decisive moments in the life of our National Health Service, medical historian Sally Sheard begins by going back to the 1930s to reveal what life was like before the National Health Service began.

Back then, the, nation's health was in a desperate state and there was no such thing as a health service.

Many hospitals were on the brink of collapse. Access to care was determined by your ability to pay and treatments were basic. Surgery, for example, was often performed on the kitchen table.

The health of the nation was so poor that it was common for adults to have all their teeth extracted.


I'm finding it a very useful bit of general historical education , and the 15 minute chunks are handy !
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The fourth episode shows how the then (late Thirties) much-exaggerated fears of mass bombing led to the creation of a forerunner national hospital service --

" There was also a growing fear that overcrowded hostels and air raid shelters would trigger epidemics of diseases like diphtheria.

So the government was galvanised into action. They brought Britain's patchwork of hospitals into one integrated Emergency Medical Service and introduced mass immunisation for children"


The medical details of those receiving very late treatment/operations are not for the squeamish .


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Who else here is watching the football on a regular basis? Brazil got out of jail there.


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Who else here is watching the football on a regular basis? Brazil got out of jail there.


No TV here, but I did watch the 15 minute highlights of Iran/Spain on youtube, so can understand how addictive it all is !


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BMW joins Airbus in Brexit warning

The car giant BMW has followed plane maker Airbus in warning of the adverse consequences of Brexit.

BMW UK boss Ian Robertson says it needs clarity by the end of the summer. It makes the Mini and Rolls Royce and employs about 8,000 people in the UK.

Earlier, Airbus, which employs 14,000 people in the UK, warned it could leave if the UK exits the single market and customs union with no transition deal. (BBC News website)


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44582831


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https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/06/ ... -marathon/


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"British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson is a “buffoon” who will “ruin” Ireland and the
United Kingdom because of his determination to quit the European Union , former taoiseach,
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...Criminal Behaviour Order, which is the new replacement for the old-fashioned ASBO. These can be imposed where the court is satisfied that a defendant has engaged in behaviour that caused or was likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress to any person, and where a Criminal Behaviour Order will help in preventing the defendant from acting in that way.


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You are responsible for your number,give the guy a free entry for next years or something,hardly traumatic,the running fraternity can be so "precious",the looks I get when puffing away as part of my warm up when I should be setting an example by some.


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Down the bottom of this article about May's awkward curtsey is Boris' answer to the Heathrow vote.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/theresa-may-greets-prince-william-with-awkwardly-low-curtsy-during-visit-to-new-rehab-centre/ar-AAz1q5W?ocid=spartanntp

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She is also preparing for a vote over a proposed third runway at Heathrow, which she confirmed today the foreign secretary, Boris Johnson – a critic of the airport expansion – would not be attending as he will be on a trip abroad.


I know he's the Foreign Secretary but that's awfully convenient...

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