Thursday 12th July 2018
Posted: Thu 12 Jul, 2018 6:35 am
Morning all.
Backbenchers from the European Research Group (ERG) will table a “humble address” in parliament, demanding that Davis’s draft be made public, as the Conservative party descends into all-out parliamentary warfare over Brexit.
Fascinating ! The Opposition is hard at worktinybgoat wrote:https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... hite-paper
"Brexiters plan to force release of David Davis's rival white paper"Backbenchers from the European Research Group (ERG) will table a “humble address” in parliament, demanding that Davis’s draft be made public, as the Conservative party descends into all-out parliamentary warfare over Brexit.
Ever ready to float a short term solution, now might be a good time to ask for that extension...A flotilla of barges would be sent to the coast of Northern Irelandwith energy generators after Brexit to keep the region’s lights on in the event of no deal, according to reports on Wednesday.
The scheme, which has been described as “potty” by business leaders in Northern Ireland, is said to be part of contingency planning by Whitehall mandarins in case the UK crashes out of the EU, smashing Ireland’s all-island electricity supply in its wake.
The Power of lobbies, and to hell with public health !tinybgoat wrote:https://amp.theguardian.com/environment ... carcinogen
'Michael Gove has been accused of “green Brexit hypocrisy” for trying to weaken regulation of a suspected carcinogen found in sun creams, paints and toothpastes, in a proposal seen by the Guardian'
Nick Hargrave: A Conservative split is inevitable – the question is how to manage and minimise it
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As leader of the Conservatives, Theresa May should...
Remain: 36% (-6)
Stand down: 43% (+11)
via @YouGov, 10 - 11 Jul
Chgs. w/ 08 Nov
All going swimmingly then...The Brexit deal agreed at Chequers is...
Good for Britain: 13% (-1)
Bad for Britain: 42% (+9)
via @YouGov, 10 - 11 Jul
Chgs. w/ 09 Jul
The Chequers deal isn't going to fly with the EU in any event. If anything it's a step on the way to May convincing her party that there is no alternative to Norway. Of course 'not leaving' is an alternative to Norway that would help us keep positives as well as negatives, but there you go.RogerOThornhill wrote:The Brexit deal agreed at Chequers is...
Good for Britain: 13% (-1)
Bad for Britain: 42% (+9)
Although in the examples he gives, the voting balance gets a bit distorted because the EU vote carrys more weight (block vote). Interesting though.For over a decade I have been using the UN Economic Commission Europe (UNECE) as an example of a producer of global standards, illustrating how rule-making has gone up a level, turning the EU into a rule-taker.
Maybe they recalled how successful such a tactic had been two years ago?RogerOThornhill wrote:So what happened to the "One resignation a day until the recess"?
Unless someone resigned during the match and everyone missed it.
Free movement means free movement of goods, services, capital and labour.It would preserve the UK’s and the EU’s frictionless access to each other’s markets for goods, protecting jobs and livelihoods on both sides, and propose new arrangements for services.
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It would end free movement, taking back control of the UK’s borders.
... and ensure the eligibility for UK entities to compete for all programme contracts on an open and fair basis, including those relating to the Galileo programme’s secure elements
*Points and laughs*The UK has long championed sustainable fishing
Ian Dunt
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"The utter shambles of the last twenty minutes. Normally I would say thanks in advance for the white paper.
1:14 pm · 12 Jul 2018
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"But my first Q is why the sec of state thought it appropriate to share it this morning with journalists and only provide the opposition with a copy three hours later."
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Whoah! This, on the future security relationship: "the UK is committed to membership of the ECHR". That will seriously hurt many Tory MPs.
Bercow angry about itWillow904 wrote:Keir Starmer in the Commons via Ian Dunt on twitter:
Ian Dunt
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"The utter shambles of the last twenty minutes. Normally I would say thanks in advance for the white paper.
1:14 pm · 12 Jul 2018
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"But my first Q is why the sec of state thought it appropriate to share it this morning with journalists and only provide the opposition with a copy three hours later."
Good job we're not thinking of abandoning our European allies and going it alone then...oh...James Patrick
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So, there we have it. As predicted Trump has threatened NATO with a US exit by January 2019. That’s Putin’s #AlternativeWar in action. A masterpiece.
Ah yes the fictitious "brick".AnatolyKasparov wrote:Re my above post, it is two years ago today that the Labour party was - quite literally - staring into the abyss (the thread here for that day is worth reading)
Thank you to all those who, sometimes after much agonising, took the only rational choice.
M.R. James wrote:... it is not so evident what more the creature that came in answer to the whistle could have done than frighten. There seemed to be absolutely nothing material about it save the bedclothes of which it had made itself a body. The Colonel, who remembered a not very dissimilar occurrence in India, was of the opinion that if Parkins had closed with it it could really have done very little, and that its one power was that of frightening.
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Raab suggests UK will stop its £39bn payment to EU if Brussels stalls on trade talks after Brexit
Raab says, if the government found that, having agreed the withdrawal agreement, progress towards a trade deal slowed down, there would be consequences, including to UK’s payments to the EU.
Raab suggests UK will stop its £39bn payment to the EU if Brussels stalls on trade talks after Brexit.
This is new. At a committee hearing earlier this year, Suella Braverman, the junior Brexit minister, said the £39bn payment was unconditional; there was nothing in the withdrawal agreement that would guarantee a good trade deal would have to follow, she conceded. (Politics Live, Guardian)
No deal looks a lot more likely again. Followed by being sued for what we owe under the current budget and its future undisputed obligations.PorFavor wrote:Here we go again -
Raab suggests UK will stop its £39bn payment to EU if Brussels stalls on trade talks after Brexit
Raab says, if the government found that, having agreed the withdrawal agreement, progress towards a trade deal slowed down, there would be consequences, including to UK’s payments to the EU.
Raab suggests UK will stop its £39bn payment to the EU if Brussels stalls on trade talks after Brexit.
This is new. At a committee hearing earlier this year, Suella Braverman, the junior Brexit minister, said the £39bn payment was unconditional; there was nothing in the withdrawal agreement that would guarantee a good trade deal would have to follow, she conceded. (Politics Live, Guardian)
BRUSSELS (The Borowitz Report)— "" The German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, took a break from the nato summit in Brussels on Wednesday to ask the independent counsel, Robert Mueller, if there is anything she can do to help.PorFavor wrote:Apparently, Donald Trump can only visit people who have very big back gardens (big enough for a helicopter to land) since he's having to go everywhere in a helicopter to avoid protesters.
frog222 - put the kettle on - you could be in for a treat! (Well, if you weren't in France. But it must, nevertheless, be a worry.)
They are behaving like a load of Trumps .PorFavor wrote:Here we go again -
Raab suggests UK will stop its £39bn payment to EU if Brussels stalls on trade talks after Brexit
Raab says, if the government found that, having agreed the withdrawal agreement, progress towards a trade deal slowed down, there would be consequences, including to UK’s payments to the EU.
Raab suggests UK will stop its £39bn payment to the EU if Brussels stalls on trade talks after Brexit.
This is new. At a committee hearing earlier this year, Suella Braverman, the junior Brexit minister, said the £39bn payment was unconditional; there was nothing in the withdrawal agreement that would guarantee a good trade deal would have to follow, she conceded. (Politics Live, Guardian)
"" The new additions to May’s cabinet do not exactly suggest the cavalry have arrived. The new Brexit secretary, Dominic Raab, is on record as saying that people forced to go to food banks simply have “cash flow problems”, as well calling feminists “obnoxious bigots”.HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... are_btn_tw
I really doubt if anything Raab says is going to make much difference there.adam wrote:No deal looks a lot more likely againPorFavor wrote:Here we go again -
Raab suggests UK will stop its £39bn payment to EU if Brussels stalls on trade talks after Brexit
Raab says, if the government found that, having agreed the withdrawal agreement, progress towards a trade deal slowed down, there would be consequences, including to UK’s payments to the EU.
Raab suggests UK will stop its £39bn payment to the EU if Brussels stalls on trade talks after Brexit.
This is new. At a committee hearing earlier this year, Suella Braverman, the junior Brexit minister, said the £39bn payment was unconditional; there was nothing in the withdrawal agreement that would guarantee a good trade deal would have to follow, she conceded. (Politics Live, Guardian)
The powerful want to know how much regular people will tolerate before we don't.PorFavor wrote:Why are we footing the bill for the security around Donald Trump's golfing excursion (to his own golf course\s to boot)? Doesn't seem, on present evidence, to have anything to do with state business.
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BRUSSELS (The Borowitz Report)— "" The German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, took a break from the nato summit in Brussels on Wednesday to ask the independent counsel, Robert Mueller, if there is anything she can do to help.
According to those familiar with the phone conversation, Merkel told Mueller that she would take a leave of absence as leader of the German government and move to Washington to work full-time for Mueller “if that would be of assistance.”
Touting her credentials, Merkel told Mueller that she was fluent in Russian and could be helpful in translating the thousands of Russian-language documents that the special counsel has in his collection of evidence.
“I will work for free and pay my for my own food,” Merkel said. “I just want to make this stop.”
Mueller reportedly thanked Merkel for her offer but told her he had to wrap up their conversation because he had “Emmanuel Macron on the other line.” ""
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Postscript 3: Initial reflection an hour on. This feels like a load of random stuff from different trade agreements and other relationships stuck together. It's what a UK-EU agreement designed by an inexpert committee might look like