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Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 7:33 am
by HindleA
Morning

Thank #### it rained,non-lawn looks slightly less part of of an alien landscape.

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 7:47 am
by frog222
No rain yet, but it nearly always does after a spring tide , which is tomorrow .

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam ... width=1240" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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( Apparently potus broke protocol and plain good manners in walking in front of HM ... )

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 8:29 am
by adam
Mentioned yesterday by Por Favor I think, there's a 'Long Read' from the G a while ago...

How the MoD’s plan to privatise military housing ended in disaster

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 8:49 am
by frog222
Reading the Guy Hands MOD privatisation saga, which began with rail ... !

"" According to the financier, over a two-week period, one of Nomura’s researchers rang or visited every single train manufacturer in the world. He soon figured out that Angel Trains, one of the three rolling stock operating companies, was seriously undervalued. Its trains were being sold with a projected use of seven years, when in fact they would almost certainly be used for significantly longer because there was insufficient manufacturing capacity worldwide to replace the trains.

Instead of valuing the deal on a seven-year projection, PFG valued it on a longer timeline. PFG could easily outbid competitors, while still being confident that they would make money on the deal. “Surprise, surprise, we won,” said the financier. “And some of those trains are still running today.” ""


Salmond interview on Toady , quote : " White House tweet -- ' POTUS on way to Scotland, departing the UK ' , which is good news for the SNP. "

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 10:17 am
by AnatolyKasparov
frog222 wrote:No rain yet, but it nearly always does after a spring tide , which is tomorrow .

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam ... width=1240" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Image

( Apparently potus broke protocol and plain good manners in walking in front of HM ... )
Not mentioned on today's (genuinely hilarious) Mail front page.

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 10:57 am
by refitman
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
frog222 wrote:No rain yet, but it nearly always does after a spring tide , which is tomorrow .

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam ... width=1240" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Image

( Apparently potus broke protocol and plain good manners in walking in front of HM ... )
Not mentioned on today's (genuinely hilarious) Mail front page.
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Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 11:09 am
by AnatolyKasparov
frog222 wrote: Salmond interview on Toady , quote : " White House tweet -- ' POTUS on way to Scotland, departing the UK ' , which is good news for the SNP. "
Makes a change from the more usual Yank conflation of GB/UK with "England", I suppose ;)

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 11:21 am
by TobyLatimer
Late edition of Dacre's rag

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Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 11:48 am
by frog222
Tower of secrets: the Russian money behind a Donald Trump skyscraper

The Trump Toronto reveals the links between a shadowy world of post-Soviet money and a future president


Which coincides nicely with those Mueller indictments . Mmmmm !

19 minute audio at FT, this is only 1.52 and well worth a look :-)

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EDIT PS -

It's a witchhunt !

[i]" " Tom Keatinge, a former JPMorgan banker who now specialises in financial crime at London’s Royal United Services Institute (Rusi), said that if the $100m payment were deemed a bribe, the flow of money through Shnaider to the Trump Toronto meant that “you could argue that the Trump Organization is receiving the proceeds of crime and therefore is being used as a money-laundering opportunity”. The Financial Times""[/i]

https://rusi.org/in-the-news/tower-secr ... skyscraper" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 12:31 pm
by citizenJA
Good-afternoon, everyone

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 12:40 pm
by tinyclanger2
A'ternoon.

Hats off to GPUK for the Trump protest:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... y-uk-visit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 12:49 pm
by frog222
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Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 2:10 pm
by frog222
duplicated

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 2:13 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
frog222 wrote:duplicated
As in "so good you posted it twice"?

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 2:25 pm
by frog222
AK - not sure what happened !

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 2:42 pm
by citizenJA
Jeremy Corbyn
‏Verified account @jeremycorbyn
Our message today to President Donald Trump was: We're united in our hope for a world of justice not division.

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Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 4:39 pm
by Eric_WLothian
Prizes for the best headlines:

Daily Record:
The ego has landed in Scotland...
MEET THE FAKERS
Daily Star (Scotland):
HAIR FORCE ONE
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-44831638" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 4:48 pm
by tinyclanger2
The blimp may not have made it to the golf course but apparently he's going on a word tour.
Starting with Australia.

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 4:52 pm
by tinyclanger2
Or even world...

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 4:58 pm
by tinyclanger2
A selection of favourite placards:

1) Super Callous Fragile Racist Sexist Nazi Potus
2) Star-spangled Gobshite

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 5:03 pm
by HindleA
Aardvark

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 5:08 pm
by HindleA
Schools, pupils and their characteristics: January 2018


Amended title of table 8e in attachment 'Schools pupils and their characteristics 2018 - LA tables'.

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Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 5:28 pm
by HindleA
A bit worrying they don't know what they are.

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 5:29 pm
by adam
tinyclanger2 wrote:A selection of favourite placards:

1) Super Callous Fragile Racist Sexist Nazi Potus
2) Star-spangled Gobshite
3) Orange is the New Twat

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 5:31 pm
by HindleA
Places of education,people that go there.No wonder the Country is in the state it is in.

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 5:36 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... stol-wales" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Airbus ‘in a holding pattern’ waiting for the nuts and bolts of Brexit

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 5:38 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
So its actually 4th place that is COMING HOME, then.

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 5:39 pm
by HindleA
missed this:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... t-obituary" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Julian Tudor Hart obituary
Doctor who set up a research practice in a Welsh mining community and pioneered routine preventive health care

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 5:53 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-st ... -1-5604103" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

STEVE RICHARDS: What would Harold Wilson do?

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 5:59 pm
by HindleA
This massacre must stop': Nicaraguan student rebels face militia assault
Witnesses describe terrifying attack on occupied university where activists are protesting president Daniel Ortega
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... CMP=twt_gu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 6:02 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Daniel Ortega, eh? Now there's an example of the once familiar liberator turned tyrant thing.

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 6:07 pm
by Eric_WLothian
tinyclanger2 wrote:The blimp may not have made it to the golf course but apparently he's going on a word tour.
Starting with Australia.
The blimp didn't - but somebody did:
POLICE have launched a manhunt for the anti-Trump protestor who breached a security ring to paraglide within 60 metres of the President.
The US President was enjoying the evening sunshine with business associates on the lawn of his Turnberry golf course when a Greenpeace protestor swooped above carrying a banner saying: ‘Trump Well Below Par #resist’
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1635 ... ry-resort/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

("Manhunt" sounds a bit OTT).

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 6:09 pm
by RogerOThornhill
AnatolyKasparov wrote:So its actually 4th place that is COMING HOME, then.
Yep. Missed most of the first half though (probably a wise move) through following the final set of Nadal v Djokovic. Amazing tennis.

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 6:12 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
England played a lot better in the second half tbf, but chasing the game was always likely to let in another goal once they failed to put one of their chances away.

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 6:24 pm
by adam
AnatolyKasparov wrote:England played a lot better in the second half tbf, but chasing the game was always likely to let in another goal once they failed to put one of their chances away.
I knew there was a reason I had no memory at all of the 3rd/4th place match against Italy in 1990 - it was, like this afternoon, that I just couldn't be bothered with it.

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 6:26 pm
by adam
I have a cauldron of onion soup and some very nice cheese on toast to float and sink in it if anyone's interested.

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 6:45 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
adam wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:England played a lot better in the second half tbf, but chasing the game was always likely to let in another goal once they failed to put one of their chances away.
I knew there was a reason I had no memory at all of the 3rd/4th place match against Italy in 1990 - it was, like this afternoon, that I just couldn't be bothered with it.
It (the 1990 game) was pretty decent from what I recall. Certainly better than the genuinely disgraceful final that year :twisted:

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 6:50 pm
by frog222
adam wrote:I have a cauldron of onion soup and some very nice cheese on toast to float and sink in it if anyone's interested.
Later ! Off to the beach for a rinse after mowing the orchard. There is a rising spring tide.

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 7:07 pm
by citizenJA
adam wrote:I have a cauldron of onion soup and some very nice cheese on toast to float and sink in it if anyone's interested.
beautiful, thank you

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 7:07 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... l-election" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 7:08 pm
by HindleA
Must be a ####ing big lawn mower.

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 7:21 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
#FBPE will be in mourning :P

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 7:33 pm
by refitman
I don't think this was one of ERG's planned resignations:
Mirror Breaking News

@MirrorBreaking_

BREAKING: Tory minister quits as Mirror reveals his 2,000 sex textshttp://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/business ... 12918866?a" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
7:05 PM - Jul 14, 2018
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Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 8:12 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ump-racism" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Why identity politics benefits the right more than the left
Sheri Berman

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 8:56 pm
by citizenJA
HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ump-racism


Why identity politics benefits the right more than the left
Sheri Berman
I liked the article
In Corbyn's speech yesterday
'...We're united in our hope for a world of justice not division'
stand together or we're goners

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 9:19 pm
by HindleA
Othering is the fascists friend,the left do it even in "sympathetic" terms,highlights the danger of counterproductiveness,solidifying concepts,ways of thinking/viewing self and others and related behaviour,appropriation/internalising of "expected" characteristics eg.sufficiently needy,acting oppressed/lack of agency etc.

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 9:21 pm
by Willow904
Terms like "metropolitan elite" are hugely divisive, too. What does it even mean?

Things which connect people are the apparatus of the state we all use - hospitals, schools, trains, buses.

Labour does best when it talks about these concrete things that everyone understands. Talk of the "left behind" I don't find helpful. In terms of less being spent on essential services we are all equally short changed and "left behind". Therefore we all potentially benefit from these areas seeing more investment. The right have been very successful at creating the idea of "winners" and "losers" with something for "someone else" only possible at another person's expense. Re-creating a sense of all of us being winners from various policies is clearly the key to shaking loose of current polarised and divisive narratives but it's quite a challenge, isn't it? Identify politics is working for those who seek to undermine democratic consensus and replace it with top down authoritarianism.

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 9:25 pm
by HindleA
My offer of benign dictatorship still stands

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 9:27 pm
by HindleA
# subject to tea and nicotine levels,I may have off days and slaughter a few,but nobody is perfect.

Re: Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018

Posted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 9:33 pm
by HindleA
Happiness is finding more chocolate bars,somehow forgotten.


Whatever you do,don't turn over.