FlyTheNest

Posted: **Sat 14 Jul, 2018 9:42 pm**

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Posted: **Sat 14 Jul, 2018 9:47 pm**

Hey Donald I have another one for your stories of why immigration is bad...

Q: What do you call a man who, as a convicted drug offender, tries to enter the USA on a false passport, is caught and deported as an illegal migrant (and uses another strange passport to return home), this new offense to sit alongside a slate of them for violence?

A: Tommy Robinson, latter-day hero of free speech.

Posted: **Sat 14 Jul, 2018 9:49 pm**

Why pay money to go to 'god I love the 80s' concerts when I can just sit in the house with the windows open and listen to it anyway. Imagination earlier, Marc Almond just finished (doing the 12" version of Tainted Love/Where Did Our Love go, very good) and now UB40 are on, playing the earlier 'better' stuff.

Posted: **Sat 14 Jul, 2018 9:53 pm**

Good to hear,had thought you had fallen into the cauldron.

Posted: **Sat 14 Jul, 2018 9:55 pm**

HindleA wrote:Good to hear,had thought you had fallen into the cauldron.

It's possible I exaggerated a little.

I can also now claim that I always knew I was making it for le Quatorze Juillet.

Posted: **Sat 14 Jul, 2018 9:56 pm**

winners and losers are outcomes in sport
not lives

Posted: **Sat 14 Jul, 2018 10:00 pm**

citizenJA wrote:winners and losers are outcomes in sport
not lives

Although Mandelson's having a pretty good go this evening.

Britain’s former trade commissioner in Brussels, Lord Mandelson, is making common cause with hardline, anti-EU Tories, saying Theresa May’s latest Brexit blueprint would lead to “national humiliation” and leave the country in a worse position than if it turned its back on the entire European economic system

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I get how bad May's proposals are, but I think a national humiliation in which we still got to have food and medicine would be better than the alternative.

Posted: **Sat 14 Jul, 2018 10:04 pm**

citizenJA wrote:
HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ump-racism

Why identity politics benefits the right more than the left
Sheri Berman
I liked the article
In Corbyn's speech yesterday
'...We're united in our hope for a world of justice not division'
stand together or we're goners

Me too !

"" "" In the past, the Republican and Democratic parties attracted supporters with different racial, religious, ideological and regional identities, but gradually Republicans became the party of white, evangelical, conservative and rural voters, while the Democrats became associated with non-whites, non-evangelical, liberal and metropolitan voters.
...
As long, therefore, as politics is a fight between clearly bounded identity groups, appeals and threats to group identity will benefit Republicans more than Democrats, which is presumably why Steve Bannon infamously remarked that he couldn’t “get enough” of the left’s “race-identity politics”. “The longer they talk about identity politics, I got ’em ... I want them to talk about race and identity … every day.” ""

Posted: **Sat 14 Jul, 2018 10:31 pm**

that damn Bannon character

Posted: **Sat 14 Jul, 2018 10:34 pm**

adam wrote:
citizenJA wrote:winners and losers are outcomes in sport
not lives
Although Mandelson's having a pretty good go this evening.
Britain’s former trade commissioner in Brussels, Lord Mandelson, is making common cause with hardline, anti-EU Tories, saying Theresa May’s latest Brexit blueprint would lead to “national humiliation” and leave the country in a worse position than if it turned its back on the entire European economic system
.

I get how bad May's proposals are, but I think a national humiliation in which we still got to have food and medicine would be better than the alternative.

Yeah, Mandelson making an emotional appeal there
it's unnecessary

Posted: **Sat 14 Jul, 2018 10:34 pm**

Goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA

Posted: **Sat 14 Jul, 2018 11:02 pm**

As a quick aside from more relevant things, Mrs Sonny and I were watching series 1 of Poldark- recorded 3 years ago and only now been watched. Demelza threw (?) a clumsy curtsey. As one we said, “Just like Theresa May.”

Not in a nice way, of course

[Edited for typo]

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 4:25 am**

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Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 4:40 am**

HAIR the remake

Boris
Geert
Michael (Fabricant)
Donald

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 6:42 am**

Heffatrump flies off to Helsinki china shop --

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 47671.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I wonder what he's going to give away this time ?

Morning !

""SteB1
1 hour ago
In the US Presidential Elections, there was a lot of discussion whether Donald Trump's apparent monumental stupidity and ignorance was a clever act to get himself elected, or if he really was the dangerous buffoon, and moron, he came across as. Unfortunately we now know the answer to this question, and unless Trump's "act" is continuing, and he only sacks and eventually falls out with all of his staff, and causes chaos as part of this act, he's every bit as stupid and ignorant as he appears, and some more.

There are 2 things masking the severity of the problem.

Firstly it's wrongly perceived that you have to be a genius to be very wealthy. When really it's more about luck, and Trump is not as he presents himself a self-made man but the inheritor of a vast real estate empire from his father. What's more the rocketing value of prime real estate means it doesn't require genuine business acumen, and you just need to be a ruthless and unprincipled wheeler dealer. Property dealing has always attracted unpleasant characters, who've made money more because of their crookedness, than business ability. That's before mentioning Trump's bankruptcies, and the fact that almost certainly Trump has refused to disclose his tax returns as he promised, because he's likely not as wealthy as claimed, and in massive debt.

Secondly, amongst the very wealthy and new ideological right (they are closely allied) there's the fashionable theory that you need to create chaos to create money making opportunities. The very wealth made vast sums of money out of the financial crash, where the poor are having to pay the debts racked up with it. So they want more of that. To them, the chaos Trump is wreaking everywhere is all part of some big clever plan, it's what they want. But Trump isn't creating chaos because of some clever plan, it's because he's as stupid, inept and ignorant as he appears to be. We now know that Trump's billionaire associates, have long thought of Trump as an incredibly stupid person.""

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 7:13 am**

Morning folks,
Theresa may quote from today’s Guardian (although originally from the Heil):

“I am yet to see a workable alternative future trading arrangement that would deliver on our commitments to Northern Ireland, preserve the constitutional integrity of the UK and deliver on the result of the referendum.”

So all she has to do is choose which to drop.

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 7:38 am**

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-amer ... 4zrmq.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The move by the retailer, which also owns Saks Fifth Avenue and Lord & Taylor in the United States, comes at a time when many Canadians say they are boycotting US products because of President Donald Trump's decision to impose tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum as well as his repeated insults of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c4120.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Can I suggest a boycott on our US imports of crap food and annoying words and phrases

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 7:46 am**

Population of US: 326 million across 50 states
Population of EU: 508 million across 28 countries
(Population of Europe: 741 million across 44 countries)

Am curious about how Americans would feel if they were banned from migrating around America.
https://www.census.gov/schools/resource ... s-map.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://uk.businessinsider.com/state-dom ... ?r=US&IR=T" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 7:51 am**

(Have recently taken part in PorFavor's online editing course.)

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 7:54 am**

Just out of interest:

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Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 7:59 am**

Kremlin sees US president as 'a moron to take advantage of', believes one expert
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 47671.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

One doubts that s/he's alone.

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 8:03 am**

“Trump’s unpredictability and inability to concentrate is concerning many people here,” says Alexey Sushenikov, program director of the Valdai Club, a discussion forum associated with the Kremlin. “US-Russian problems are of a systemic nature, and there can be no takeoff without proper preparation and commitment. People doubt Trump can provide that.”

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 8:17 am**

tinyclanger2 wrote:
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-amer ... 4zrmq.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The move by the retailer, which also owns Saks Fifth Avenue and Lord & Taylor in the United States, comes at a time when many Canadians say they are boycotting US products because of President Donald Trump's decision to impose tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum as well as his repeated insults of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c4120.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Can I suggest a boycott on our US imports of crap food and annoying words and phrases

Looking at what people buy and eat (Ugh) , unfortunately we are very good at providing our own crap food .

Antitrumpism predates the recent trade nonsense :
"" Hudson's Bay told the company that markets the Ivanka Trump brand last autumn that it would be dropping its products, months before Canadian anger toward Donald Trump came to a boil because of his trade actions and his behaviour following the Group of 7 summit meeting hosted by Trudeau.

While Ivanka Trump has resigned from her management roles at the company that bears her name, financial disclosures show that she made more than $US5 million from it last year.""

Still nice to know it's hitting her pocket !

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 8:27 am**

TC2 --- it's not only American words and phrases

John Reid , first time I heard it , on the HomeOffice -- " Not fit for purpose'', now everyone's using it !

What's wrong with "useless" (optionally preceded by suitable adjective ) ?

In any and every tragic or even mildly unfortunate situation, interviewees are always "devastated".

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 8:30 am**

I am particularly disturbed by:

"reach out"

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 8:31 am**

http://uk.businessinsider.com/oxford-ec ... ion-2018-7" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A troubling lesson from the 1930s suggests Trump's trade war will damage the world for decades

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 9:44 am**

I wonder what Heffatrump is going to give away this time , Nato exercises in the Baltic perhaps ?

From the little I’ve seen, the WH reactions to the latest Mueller indictments apparently had no comment at all on the fact that there were er ‘hostile acts’ , only that there were no Trump Team fingerprints on them !

At 4′.30″ a simpleton speaks —

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Cogent four-star general compared to Mr Bone-spurs . Oh dear !

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 10:21 am**

Yes. It seems that no-one in power needs to be - or indeed can be - held accountable for anything they do.
(see Cameron and his ludicrous EU referendum, for example)

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 10:22 am**

Patrick Smith
@psmith
#Marr: The whole country wants to know, what was President's advice to you on Brexit?

May: He told me to sue the EU.
9:59 am · 15 Jul 2018

I'm confused. If May is toadying up to Trump to get this much feted US/UK trade deal, why would she reveal a private comment that makes him look like a moron?

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 10:36 am**

Because she's also a moron?

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 10:39 am**

55DegreesNorth wrote:Morning folks,
Theresa may quote from today’s Guardian (although originally from the Heil):

“I am yet to see a workable alternative future trading arrangement that would deliver on our commitments to Northern Ireland, preserve the constitutional integrity of the UK and deliver on the result of the referendum.”

So all she has to do is choose which to drop.

The use of the word 'alternative' suggests she thinks her Chequers plan is the solution.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 10:49 am**

citizenJA wrote:
adam wrote:
citizenJA wrote:winners and losers are outcomes in sport
not lives
Although Mandelson's having a pretty good go this evening.
Britain’s former trade commissioner in Brussels, Lord Mandelson, is making common cause with hardline, anti-EU Tories, saying Theresa May’s latest Brexit blueprint would lead to “national humiliation” and leave the country in a worse position than if it turned its back on the entire European economic system
.

I get how bad May's proposals are, but I think a national humiliation in which we still got to have food and medicine would be better than the alternative.
Yeah, Mandelson making an emotional appeal there
it's unnecessary

Mandelson should just keep quiet, tbh.

(evergreen post, I know)

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 11:10 am**

Not politics - but there are still caring (and skilful) people in the US:

Chinook pilot lands rear section of helicopter on Oregon mountain during spectacular rescue

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 47986.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 11:20 am**

Willow904 wrote:
Patrick Smith
@psmith
#Marr: The whole country wants to know, what was President's advice to you on Brexit?

May: He told me to sue the EU.
9:59 am · 15 Jul 2018
I'm confused. If May is toadying up to Trump to get this much feted US/UK trade deal, why would she reveal a private comment that makes him look like a moron?

"She doesn't know what she is doing" would seem the simplest explanation? And also backed up by previous evidence, of course

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 11:26 am**

Buses don't matter

https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/ ... -1-9250500" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 11:30 am**

Disabled friends seriously impacted in terms of voluntary work,visiting family,going out etc.

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 11:32 am**

Britain Elects
‏

@britainelects
1h1 hour ago
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Once the terms of the Brexit deal are known, there...

SHOULD be a public vote between accepting the deal or leaving without one: 25%

SHOULD be a public vote between accepting the deal or remaining in the EU: 25%

SHOULD NOT be a public vote: 33%

via @OpiniumResearch

This pretty much demonstrates the problem that arises with a 3-way choice.
A second/third referendum between deal/no deal/remain wouldn't achieve an overall majority for any option, would it, we'd need STV.
Arriving at a situation where no deal is off the table in the public mind seems just as unlikely as any other scenario you can think of.

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 11:34 am**

Concessions etc only work if the transport is available.

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 11:37 am**

The use or lose/chicken/egg.

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 11:39 am**

gilsey wrote:
Britain Elects
‏

@britainelects
1h1 hour ago
More
Once the terms of the Brexit deal are known, there...

SHOULD be a public vote between accepting the deal or leaving without one: 25%

SHOULD be a public vote between accepting the deal or remaining in the EU: 25%

SHOULD NOT be a public vote: 33%

via @OpiniumResearch
This pretty much demonstrates the problem that arises with a 3-way choice.
A second/third referendum between deal/no deal/remain wouldn't achieve an overall majority for any option, would it, we'd need STV.
Arriving at a situation where no deal is off the table in the public mind seems just as unlikely as any other scenario you can think of.

I blame David Cameron, personally.

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 11:49 am**

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 12:09 pm**

Incidentally, what happened to that balloon of Sadiq Khan that was crowd-funded as a retort to the Trump one?

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 12:17 pm**

https://www.express.co.uk/videos/546757 ... ver-London" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(Sunday xcess)

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 12:39 pm**

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 1:01 pm**

I just had a moment of panic on Twitter. Coming back to an unusually high number of notifications I discovered the reason was because John Rentoul had replied to one of my tweets and he was agreeing with me. Fortunately, on investigation, I realised the comment he agreed with was simply a technical statement of fact and I haven't embarrassed myself in front of Rentoul followers (I hope!).

I was basically saying there won't be a vote on "no deal". We would just leave automatically without one. There can only be a vote/decision on accepting a deal or on postponing/revoking article 50.

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 3:37 pm**

tinyclanger2 wrote:
“Trump’s unpredictability and inability to concentrate is concerning many people here,” says Alexey Sushenikov, program director of the Valdai Club, a discussion forum associated with the Kremlin. “US-Russian problems are of a systemic nature, and there can be no takeoff without proper preparation and commitment. People doubt Trump can provide that.”

What's that old saying? You reap what you sow....They got him into office.

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 3:52 pm**

Well more accurately, they did their bit.

At the end of the day though, HRC lost it more than Trump or his proxies winning it.

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 5:01 pm**

Another resignation...

Sam Freedman
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Imagining being an unknown PPS trying to time your resgination to have some kind of impact and then choosing the middle of the Wimbledon men's final and 30 mins before the World Cup final.
3:58 PM - 15 Jul 2018

Someone called Robert Courts apparently...

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 6:07 pm**

RogerOThornhill wrote:Another resignation...

Sam Freedman
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Imagining being an unknown PPS trying to time your resgination to have some kind of impact and then choosing the middle of the Wimbledon men's final and 30 mins before the World Cup final.
3:58 PM - 15 Jul 2018

Someone called Robert Courts apparently...

Well, we've certainly lost a shrewd political operator there, then. Great loss.

Posted: **Sun 15 Jul, 2018 6:10 pm**

Just an aside - what was Donald Trump suggesting that Theresa May sue the EU for?

Edited to add -

PTO

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