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Vauxhall one of my ex constituencies when Stuart Holland was MP.


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https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/ ... d-unveiled

Radical plans to end huge costs of buying a freehold unveiled
Law Commission draws up options enabling leaseholders to extend or buy more cheaply


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Sky'sGoneOut on form last night, following Tinyclanger's link --

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... russia-cbs

"Donald Trump now says he holds the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, personally responsible for his country’s meddling in the 2016 presidential election, further walking back a statement on Monday that drew bipartisan rebukes.

Asked if he agreed with US intelligence assessments that Russia meddled in the election in 2016, Trump replied: “Yeah, and I’ve said that before, Jeff. I have said that numerous times before, and I would say that is true, yeah.”

Asked what he had said to Putin during a one-on-one meeting the two had in Helsinki on Monday, Trump replied: “Very strong on the fact that we can’t have meddling, we can’t have any of that.”"


Honest to god it's like listening to a fucking five year old. At least five year olds have an excuse in that their brains are only partially developed and they have a limited range of experience. But it's not like people didn't know what to expect from him. They voted for him knowing he was a cretin. They voted for him knowing he was a narcissistic freak. They voted for him knowing he would happily lie to their faces. They voted for him knowing he was a racist misogynistic sex pest. So having him essentially behave in a way that Republicans would previously have regarded as traitorous then try to pretend it didn't happen isn't going to make the slightest bit of difference. He said it himself, he could shoot people and his followers would still vote for him.

If you swapped Trump for Nixon and put them in the same Watergate situation Trump, nowadays, would get away with it.

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He's visiting/staying tomorrow,subject to neither of us getting lost.He's going for the disheveled look so will be in good company.


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I have the advantage of having a vague idea where I live.


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Sky not Trump.


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Only charging £50,which I think is very reasonable,more.if he doesn't want to sleep.in the shed.


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Morning all. Library day today so won't be here for long.

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https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... unications


Research and analysis

Research supporting Help to Save communications

(Government's nabbing of Labour's savings gateway scheme(but characteristically different,which they cancelled and I would have benefited from,yet another reason to hate them)


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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jul, 2018 7:28 am 
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Also ditched caring with confidence,really petty stuff but easy hit swept up in can't afford bollox.


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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jul, 2018 7:35 am 
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That's the HMRC that pursued monies for two years on a non existing "business",after repeatedly being told.


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Labour's wasn't just low income necessarilly ,a small recognition in essence,transfered to default charging for a hospital bed with the election of the coalition of shits.


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Re ESA u-turn

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... dated-2011


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"When I said 2014,I meant 2011"


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On Chris Heaton-Harris, new junior minister in Department for Exiting the EU

Universities deplore ‘McCarthyism’ as MP demands list of tutors lecturing on Brexit

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Chris Heaton-Harris, Conservative MP for Daventry and a staunch Eurosceptic, wrote to vice-chancellors at the start of this month asking for the names of any professors involved in teaching European affairs “with particular reference to Brexit”. Neatly ignoring the long tradition of academic freedom that universities consider crucial to their success, his letter asks for a copy of each university’s syllabus and any online lectures on Brexit.

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Genuinely brilliant - and depressingly convincing - cartoon.


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I have the advantage of having a vague idea where I live.

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"When I said 2014,I meant 2011"


Piddling three years difference, who cares?


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Wednesday’s report by the public accounts committee outlined how the department failed to take legal advice when transferring claimants to ESA, failed to make basic checks and ignored evidence and complaints that the process was flawed.


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I don't have any confidence in this government


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Wednesday’s report by the public accounts committee outlined how the department failed to take legal advice when transferring claimants to ESA, failed to make basic checks and ignored evidence and complaints that the process was flawed.


Will any back-payments be considered part of claimants' taxable income for this year (or whatever year in which the back-payments are received) - or will they be apportioned to each relevant year?


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Even some Tory MPs are now contradicting the "official" line about the Swinson (non) pairing.


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Doesn't your accountancy team handle that, PorFavor?

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UK government needs out of that House and into more reputable offices


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Preparing for the withdrawal of the United Kingdom from the European Union on 30 March 2019
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PF Income related ESA non taxable.


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Giving evidence to the Commons public administration and constitutional affairs committee this morning, the acting cabinet secretary, Sir Mark Sedwill, said the UK would be ready for a no deal Brexit. He told MPs:

We will be ready but we shouldn’t assume it will be smooth, if it’s a disruptive outcome ...

We do have confidence in our ‘no deal’ planning, we know that it will be disruptive for them and for us if there is no deal and that we haven’t been able to find some other arrangement. (Politics Live, Guardian)


Ready - or disrupted? Or ready to be disrupted?


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PF Income related ESA non taxable.


I thought it was taxable. My mistake.


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Contributory ESA is.

https://www.gov.uk/income-tax/taxfree-a ... e-benefits


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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... osing-atms


Interesting article. Requires some thinking about. Certainly "pocket money" and "tooth fairy payments" don't easily lend themselves to digital payment. And buying an ice-cream at the beach with a debit card just feels wrong to me!!

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Supreme Court Hears Final Challenges Against Controversial Single Parent Benefit Cap


The government’s controversial benefit cap reduction is in its final day of hearing today.

https://rightsinfo.org/supreme-court-to ... nefit-cap/


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Willow904 wrote:
citizenJA wrote:
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"If a powerful institution wants to make people choose a certain thing, the best strategy is to make it difficult to choose the alternative."

- Brett Scott
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... osing-atms

Interesting article. Requires some thinking about. Certainly "pocket money" and "tooth fairy payments" don't easily lend themselves to digital payment. And buying an ice-cream at the beach with a debit card just feels wrong to me!!
I didn't care for his supermarket checkout example. Banks may not require me as a customer but supermarkets do. I don't use self-checkouts. If I've made up my mind to purchase something at a supermarket, I'll wait in the line for a person to do it. If there aren't staff available for checking out, the market has lost my business.


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Supreme Court Hears Final Challenges Against Controversial Single Parent Benefit Cap


The government’s controversial benefit cap reduction is in its final day of hearing today.

https://rightsinfo.org/supreme-court-to ... nefit-cap/


This is becoming a pattern, isn't it? The government introduces cuts to essential benefits with the excuse that they are trying to incentivise people into work but then apply them to people they themselves have designated as not required/expected to work.

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Indeed,you can be in work,as well.


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If you are very much like the "any participation may be used as evidence against you".McVey's response to my point about removing the ability to work and receive housing support for homeowners was work more hours as a remedy,even though not expected to.


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How dare you not fit into easy fit categories and binaries.There is no grey in their black and white imaginary World.


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Hello. My name's tinyclanger and I live on Mars.

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"Should only be temporary".Should exist as long as circumstance remains.The view of the "fallen" sinner.Far more organisation,use of energy,conscientiousness,budgeting skills etc required than ever as a full time "worker".Itself about half required to live every day with a long term illness.


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Well,I can't disprove it.


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I actually work quite hard,it is just I do an excellent impression of doing naff all.


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My use that as my epitaph.


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You don't actually talk to people,it's sounding horns,thumbs up or hand signals.Am learning the etiquette.


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20-25 years ago,I remember a supermarket where you picked up a hand held scanner on entry and did it yourself,with spot checks.


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My use that as my epitaph.


Might confuse (or alarm) some people, given the future circumstances!


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I intend to haunt the enactors of misanthropy,bollox to the rest in peace.


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My brother was shopping,not me,clarification.Extreme allergic reaction to spending money is long held.


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