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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jul, 2018 5:47 am 
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https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/ ... nd-support

"Reform"

Reform will look at the design of the sickness element and what more can be done both to prevent people from flowing onto the benefit


Where to start..

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All ESA to JSA advocates,ex bod now part of oversight

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jul, 2018 7:29 am 
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Theresa May: I will never accept EU's ideas on Irish Brexit border: EU27 must ditch ‘unworkable’ plans and break impasse, PM tells Belfast summit
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In a speech in Belfast on Friday she is expected to brand the bloc’s calls for regulatory alignment north and south of the border as a “backstop” solution in the event of no deal as “unworkable”, and repeat her assertion that a border down the Irish Sea is unacceptable to any British prime minister.


So...

1. We are committed to there being no change to the current border arrangements between ROI and NI
2. The UK will not be remaining within the CU or the SM
3. The UK will not accept NI remaining within the CU or the SM without us
4. We demand that somebody else sort this out.

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Theresa May: I will never accept EU's ideas on Irish Brexit border: EU27 must ditch ‘unworkable’ plans and break impasse, PM tells Belfast summit
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In a speech in Belfast on Friday she is expected to brand the bloc’s calls for regulatory alignment north and south of the border as a “backstop” solution in the event of no deal as “unworkable”, and repeat her assertion that a border down the Irish Sea is unacceptable to any British prime minister.


So...

1. We are committed to there being no change to the current border arrangements between ROI and NI
2. The UK will not be remaining within the CU or the SM
3. The UK will not accept NI remaining within the CU or the SM without us
4. We demand that somebody else sort this out.

... while 5. We "take control"

We're not at our best at the moment are we?

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http://eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86937
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So that's what we're getting from our supposedly Rolls-Royce civil service: if we are hit by a "no deal" scenario, "not everything will be perfect" and "we shouldn't assume it will be smooth"

Carry on up the Khyber springs to mind (again)


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tinybgoat wrote:
http://eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86937
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So that's what we're getting from our supposedly Rolls-Royce civil service: if we are hit by a "no deal" scenario, "not everything will be perfect" and "we shouldn't assume it will be smooth"

Carry on up the Khyber springs to mind (again)


Carry On Regardless (of the awkward things like facts)

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tinybgoat wrote:
http://eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86937
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So that's what we're getting from our supposedly Rolls-Royce civil service: if we are hit by a "no deal" scenario, "not everything will be perfect" and "we shouldn't assume it will be smooth"

Carry on up the Khyber springs to mind (again)


Carry On Regardless (of the awkward things like facts)


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Anyway , "No battle plan survives contact with the enemy"

Forriners, eh ? :-)


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https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... easury-dfe


Student loan repayment income 'undervalued by £600m'
Watchdog highly critical of Treasury calculations that differ from DfE forecasts


https://www.nao.org.uk/report/the-sale- ... ent-loans/

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Nice turn of phrase from Gary Younge.
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After the recent Chequers gathering, Johnson said that accepting May’s Brexit deal would be like “polishing a turd”. He has a point. It’s now painfully clear that whatever agreement is reached, it will satisfy few leave or remain voters. What Johnson does not acknowledge is that it is his turd. If he is incapable of clearing up after himself, the least he can do is not blame the stench on others.

It’s never their fault: why the Brexiteers love to cry betrayal
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... in-america

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https://www.conservativehome.com/platfo ... rkets.html
"The missing actor in the Brexit drama is set to move centre-stage – the markets."


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HindleA wrote:
Morning.


https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/ ... nd-support

"Reform"

Reform will look at the design of the sickness element and what more can be done both to prevent people from flowing onto the benefit

Where to start..
(cJA emphasis)
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"A holistic approach won't feed my children"

I'm in abeyance,"combinations" can be dangerous,as we are seeing.

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'Identity politics'

Progressive, left-wing people don't want a person judged by their identity (skin colour, gender, nationality, for example)


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From Gary Younge's article
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For all the bellyaching about the left’s obsession with “identity politics” – a term now so maligned it can mean whatever you want it to mean so long as you don’t like it – the right has most effectively leveraged identity (rallying people through race, nation, religion, gender, myth and nostalgia) to political and electoral ends.

“It used to be a pretty good deal to be a white, Christian male in America, but things have changed, and I think they do feel threatened,” Mutz told the New York Times.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... in-america


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I was taught everyone's life is important
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"The world of national sovereignty, racial purity and ethnic homogeneity is not coming back because it never existed and cannot be created from whole cloth."

- Gary Younge
good point


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There is also a good argument that the right are actually most fond of "political correctness" - their *own* kind, of course.


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citizenJA wrote:
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"The world of national sovereignty, racial purity and ethnic homogeneity is not coming back because it never existed and cannot be created from whole cloth."

- Gary Younge
good point

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Yes, a good piece from Younge there.


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..."" I’m currently starting to write a Brexit satire and I’m already worried it will read as non-fiction.

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I do have some things in common with Theresa May. We both had fathers who were vicars. We both know the best way to do Brexit is not to do it at all. We are both hopelessly uncomfortable in large social gatherings. Luckily I have chosen a job where the latter isn’t a problem. So I was able to avoid the annual drinks party for lobby journalists at No 10 for the fifth year in a row and skip off home to watch TV. The prime minister wasn’t so fortunate and friends who went reported that she looked miserable throughout"".


Crace’s Week — https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... gaslighted


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It is genuinely amazing how Crace has come on in the last year or so, really thought he was awful when he orginally replaced the still missed Hoggart.


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Queen's private estate records £20m profit but could take Brexit hit

Duchy of Lancaster surplus rises 4.9% on last year but Brexit is seen as ‘strategic risk’

The Queen’s accountants have warned Brexit is a potential risk to her finances as she received another record multimillion-pound surplus from her private estate last year. (Guardian - my emphasis)


Well, that's it then. It's all off.

(Although, having said that, I'm sure we'd all be happy to shell out for any shortfall. God save the Quing.)

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/20/queen-20m-profit-estate-brexit-hit-duchy-lancaster


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Despite her supposed lack of power, maybe she is *the* one person who might actually "stop Brexit"?? Now there's a thought......


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Despite her supposed lack of power, maybe she is *the* one person who might actually "stop Brexit"?? Now there's a thought......

I get it now
you mean the monarch

At first I thought you were writing about May. I'd written asking you to explain that.


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If she doesn't want it to happen, it won't
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It is genuinely amazing how Crace has come on in the last year or so, really thought he was awful when he orginally replaced the still missed Hoggart.

Hoggart could only have dreamed of the material Crace has, day after day. :D

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Andrea Leadsom told the Chequers cabinet Theresa May’s brexit deal breaks Brexit red lines, minutes reveal....

.... but said in public straight after that it complies with them



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It is genuinely amazing how Crace has come on in the last year or so, really thought he was awful when he orginally replaced the still missed Hoggart.

Hoggart could only have dreamed of the material Crace has, day after day. :D

Indeed. Micky Fab has surpassed even himself recently too!


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A reminder of just how bad Crace used to be.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/po ... s-did-next

He really has come on. That piece he wrote about his drug addiction recently was very powerful and maybe explains a lot.


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So let me see if I have this right.

The right have been jeering almost incessantly at Labour for their attempt at making the definition and examples for anti-Semitism workable for a code of conduct...while their own party's code said nothing about it at all until a couple of days agi.

https://twitter.com/FactCheck/status/10 ... 9157072897

And even then all they've done is to shoehorn it in that makes it seem that it's the only belief worth mentioning.

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https://schoolsweek.co.uk/dfe-spent-115 ... o-schools/


DfE spent £115m on doomed free schools, UTCs and studio schools

So far

The government has also admitted today that it handed a UTC site worth £10.3 million to a university after the college closed down.

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