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https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... ns-say-mps


Wild west' system of school exclusions is failing pupils, say MPs
Education committee report claims too many children are punished for minor incidents


https://www.parliament.uk/education-committee

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https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... s-services


Millions are being let down by social care. It’s time for a rethink
David Brindle


"The long-awaited report captured the radical spirit of 1968. Its principal author was banker and Quaker Frederic Seebohm, who, as well as making the case for an holistic family service, anticipated two of today’s key policy issues: community development, “place-shaping”; and prevention of greater need.

“If the use of one home help on a full-time basis could avoid the need for a family of three to be taken into public care, public money would be saved,” the report said, making an argument that, half a century on, is seemingly still not understood by the Treasury"

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PorFavor link from last night --

" "This guy being the president, it's like there's a horse loose in a hospital. I think eventually everything's going to be OK, but I have no idea what's going to happen next. And neither do any of you, and neither do your parents, because there's a horse loose in the hospital. That's never happened before! No one knows what the horse is going to do next, least of all the horse. He's never been in the hospital before, he's just as confused as you are."

This bit goes on for several minutes, getting more and more outrageous as it does. Mulaney says some people have tried to offer expert solutions because they've seen birds inside the airport — but that's not good enough. We've all seen birds inside the airport! This is a horse loose in a hospital. The days when you don't hear anything from the horse are the worst, he says. Doctors are trying to go about their surgeries while side-eyeing each other and asking if anyone knows what the horse is up to. It's quiet — too quiet. The comparisons keep coming, each more gut-busting than the last.

"Why hasn't the horse-catcher come to sort it all out ? "

DJT/the horse : " I fired the horse-catcher."

ONLY on Vimeo, very very good .

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News story

Next steps towards a fully inclusive transport network
New strategy will improve accessibility across all types of travel for people with visible and less visible disabilities.


Are they taking the piss with the headline?

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... t-strategy

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https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... ction-plan


Consultation outcome

Draft transport accessibility action plan


https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -responses

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Pakistan election 2018

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https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... rens-clubs

Charities are enabling State neglect,discuss.

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After the foreign secretary’s resignation, Chris Riddell gives his own take on David Low’s famous cartoon of Winston Churchill

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Radio 5 Live is now playing its interview with John McDonnell, the shadow chancellor. Anna Foster interviewed him earlier, and they are broadcasting it now.

Q: Don’t voters like to know that public sector workers are getting a pay rise, without taxes having to go up?

McDonnell says there will have to be another round of cuts to pay for these pay rises. With the police, there will have to be another round of job losses, he says.

He says Labour wants a fair tax system. The top 5% should pay more. More importantly, the government should stop tax giveaways to corporations, he says.

Hear, hear.

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Also worth reading the blog for the summary of the Toady interview with Simon Coveney, assuming you didn't listen to it.

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A lot of people might not think it listening to me, but, actually, Ireland is one of Britain’s big allies in these negotiations. We are a country that is going to stay as part of the European Union, and that is very important to us, but our relationship with Britain is also hugely important.

This will surprise some Brexiters, who have been bitterly critical of Ireland’s stance in the Brexit talks. Leo Varadkar, the Irish prime minister, in particular has become a Brexiter bête noire.

It won't surprise any Brexiters of course, because they're lying about it for their own purposes.

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https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jul/25/holiday-hunger-shame-government-childrens-clubs

Charities are enabling State neglect,discuss.

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https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/eu-settlement-scheme-employer-toolkit


EU Settlement Scheme: employer toolkit

I'm not eager to look at that; I may have to come back to it later


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"citizenJA"]Good-morning, everyone
Yesterday --" I'm currently drinking about 4-5 litres of water a day and most my daily activities aren't all that arduous
Do remember to keep hydrated, everyone""

I followed that sound advice, but didn't get near 4 litres! The result was that after three hours sleep I was outside on my lawn shortly before moonset , a splendid orangey orb, and a reminder that the Red Moon 'eclipse' is on Friday :-)


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...and a reminder that the Red Moon 'eclipse' is on Friday :-)



...just in time for a change in the weather.

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SPLENDID STUFF from a 2011 UKIP transfuge to the TORIES —

It is about time we brought the Treason Act up to date and made it apply to those seeking to destroy or undermine the British state. That means extreme jihadis.[b] It also means those in future actively working undemocratically against U.K. through extreme EU loyalty [/b]pic.twitter.com/CXSPCJqjOz

— David C Bannerman (@DCBMEP) July 25, 2018

Conservative Central Office is 'coming back to' Mr Sparrow on that gem .

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Also worth reading the blog for the summary of the Toady interview with Simon Coveney, assuming you didn't listen to it.

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A lot of people might not think it listening to me, but, actually, Ireland is one of Britain’s big allies in these negotiations. We are a country that is going to stay as part of the European Union, and that is very important to us, but our relationship with Britain is also hugely important.

This will surprise some Brexiters, who have been bitterly critical of Ireland’s stance in the Brexit talks. Leo Varadkar, the Irish prime minister, in particular has become a Brexiter bête noire.

It won't surprise any Brexiters of course, because they're lying about it for their own purposes.


Today interviewing somebody sensible, rather than their customary far right whackos? I assume Harrumphries had the day off??


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It is about time we brought the Treason Act up to date and made it apply to those seeking to destroy or undermine the British state. That means extreme jihadis. It also means those in future actively working undemocratically against U.K. through extreme EU loyalty
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citizenJA wrote:
HindleA wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jul/25/holiday-hunger-shame-government-childrens-clubs

Charities are enabling State neglect,discuss.

Charities may exclude who they like
Charities may disappear the day after promising to help without recourse for those without help
Charities don't have statutory responsibility to anyone but themselves


Remember when the "Big Society" was a thing?


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"citizenJA"]Good-morning, everyone
Yesterday --" I'm currently drinking about 4-5 litres of water a day and most my daily activities aren't all that arduous
Do remember to keep hydrated, everyone""

I followed that sound advice, but didn't get near 4 litres! The result was that after three hours sleep I was outside on my lawn shortly before moonset , a splendid orangey orb, and a reminder that the Red Moon 'eclipse' is on Friday :-)

I bustle around a lot, working up a proper sweat


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Andy Beckett's article linked below
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It feels like 1976. And that long, hot summer didn’t end well

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... l-upheaval
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Andy Beckett's article linked below
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It feels like 1976. And that long, hot summer didn’t end well

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... l-upheaval
I recommend it


Yes, he is one of the best writers at the Graun. Not least because, as in this article, he actually has a sense of history.


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Brexiteers' predictions of prosperity lengthen - two-50-or-100-years-when-do-leavers-think-brexit-will-pay-off

" Andrew Lilico, the executive director of the analyst Europe Economics and a leave campaigner, told the BBC last year that “by 2030 we should come out about even”. When it was pointed out to him on Twitter that this did not sound like a great deal, Lilico replied that “it wouldn’t be if one were arguing to leave on the basis of the economics”. Perhaps he missed the Brexit campaign bus that promised an extra £350m a week to the NHS. "

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/sh ... ll-pay-off


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Andy Beckett's article linked below
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It feels like 1976. And that long, hot summer didn’t end well

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... l-upheaval
I recommend it
Yes, he is one of the best writers at the Graun. Not least because, as in this article, he actually has a sense of history.
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I just saw this from a poster over at Politics Live (Guardian). I know nothing at all about the poster, or their posting history, but they do have a point . . .

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So the outfit that brought you Universal Credit and the train timetable is organising the ration books and tells you to chill out, does it?

Do. Fuck. Off.


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Theresa May has said that people should “take reassurance and comfort” from the government planning for a no deal Brexit.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/bl ... 725d9cff41
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I just saw this from a poster over at Politics Live (Guardian). I know nothing at all about the poster, or their posting history, but they do have a point . . .

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So the outfit that brought you Universal Credit and the train timetable is organising the ration books and tells you to chill out, does it?

Do. Fuck. Off.
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Theresa May has said that people should “take reassurance and comfort” from the government planning for a no deal Brexit.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/bl ... 725d9cff41
fellas it's been good to know ya


Reminds me a bit of that scene in Airplane when the passengers are told not to panic :mrgreen:


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While Raab emphasised that he viewed the risk of disruption to food supplies as minimal, his description of the government’s contingency planning will alarm those who fear that the UK will crash out of the EU without a deal.

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I'm going to read yesterday's John Crace
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"Only Johnson can stop May, Raab or Hunt leading us to national humiliation"
Strangely, doesn't say how.
edit - spelt strangely strangely (stangely)


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Labour MP charged with perverting the course of justice

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The Labour MP for Peterborough Fiona Onasanya has appeared in court charged with perverting the course of justice, police have said, giving no further details of the alleged offence.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6864027/l ... f-justice/

If you don't want to open it, think Chris Huhne and speeding points.
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martin-rowson-on-jacob-rees-mogg-and-the-impacts-of-brexit-cartoon

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Evening all. A (hot) day in the library. Windows open but that didn't help that much.

Agree with this - the NEC - whose decision this is - seem to be in a state of paralysis right now.

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Sort yourselves out @UKLabour. As a member there is no good reason why you can't adopt the full IHRA definition of antisemitism and just get on with it.

Seriously, the house is on fire and you're squabbling over which setting to put the garden hose.

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Evening all. A (hot) day in the library. Windows open but that didn't help that much.

Agree with this - the NEC - whose decision this is - seem to be in a state of paralysis right now.

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Sort yourselves out @UKLabour. As a member there is no good reason why you can't adopt the full IHRA definition of antisemitism and just get on with it.

Seriously, the house is on fire and you're squabbling over which setting to put the garden hose.

I'm not sure I agree.

I've read quite a lot on this. Abi Wilkinson is Tweeting right now for example.

These things are difficult, nuanced and only likely to be resolved out of the media glare IMHO. There doesn't seem to be a simple solution.


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And this - where to begin with this utter shite.

https://twitter.com/KateHoeyMP/status/1 ... 6199136258

"Labour MP tweets out an article in the Spectator by arch-wind up merchant Brendon O'Fuckwit about not blaming the party she is supposed to oppose"

:wall:

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And this - where to begin with this utter shite.

https://twitter.com/KateHoeyMP/status/1 ... 6199136258

"Labour MP tweets out an article in the Spectator by arch-wind up merchant Brendon O'Fuckwit about not blaming the party she is supposed to oppose"

:wall:

Now there I'm with you 100% Roger :evil:


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Unfortunately nuance doesn't play well in the media - the minutiae of precisely what is being argued gets lost very quickly - for example "definition" now equates to ""definition" and "examples" in most people's eyes.

Simpler to bite the bullet - accept everything and move on.

The fact that the actual definition (all of 2 sentences) isn't very well written - as was pointed out - is almost irrelevant!

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Anyone seen the front page of the Jewish Chronicle? :wall: :fire:


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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul, 2018 9:47 pm 
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refitman wrote:
Anyone seen the front page of the Jewish Chronicle? :wall: :fire:

https://www.thejc.com/comment/leaders/t ... m-1.467641

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Scary .


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frog222 wrote:
refitman wrote:
Anyone seen the front page of the Jewish Chronicle? :wall: :fire:

https://www.thejc.com/comment/leaders/t ... m-1.467641

[img]https://www.thejc.com/image/policy:1.467642:1532542864/JC-Joint-Front-Page.jpg?f=16x9&h=576&w=1024&$p$f$h$w=c1b4676[/img

Scary .

I was thinking of this one:
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