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Fears cash-strapped council may cut services for vulnerable children
Northamptonshire county council scrambles to save £70m amid warnings even core services are at risk

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Universal credit payments at risk of being used by abusers, MPs say
Single monthly payment means abusive partner could receive entire family income, report says

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Councils keep spotlight on social care by publishing their own 'green paper

http://www.futureofadultsocialcare.co.u ... een-paper/


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What is adult social care and why is it important?


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"" Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has apologised for appearing on platforms with people whose views he "completely rejects".

Mr Corbyn's statement was in response to the Times reporting that he hosted an event in 2010 at which a Holocaust survivor compared Israel to Nazism.

The event was held at the House of Commons on Holocaust Memorial Day.

Labour MP Louise Ellman told BBC Newsnight she was "absolutely appalled" to hear about Mr Corbyn's involvement.""


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-45027582

It was no secret, but has been carefully dug up for this display of righteousness !

Again, we have the conflation of criticising the acts of an Israeli government with a supposed attitude towards all jews .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... MGuYjt6CP8



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IIRC even one of these hardened old killers from Shin Bet made the same comparison --

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLCX-_HZ_1s



What an awful mess in the LP . Gotta run, good day !


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Fears cash-strapped council may cut services for vulnerable children
Northamptonshire county council scrambles to save £70m amid warnings even core services are at risk

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More Nearly Legal Retweeted Patrick Butler
Finance director apparently suggesting statutory duties to eg vulnerable children will be cut. But they can’t. Not where statutorily obliged to provide. This will be... interesting

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Happy Yorkshire Day!

I'm celebrating in Cumbria ;-)


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I'm celebrating in Cumbria ;-)


A Yorkshire bit of Cumbria? (Dent, Sedbergh, Garsdale)
-we were in Dent 2 yrs ago, on Yorkshire day, pleased to see one of useful things their mp (Farron) had done was get Dent beer served in house of commons.


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https://mainlymacro.blogspot.com/2018/0 ... tanks.html

How BBC balance and bad think tanks discourage evidence based policy


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How BBC balance and bad think tanks discourage evidence based policy


Wren-Lewis


Another zinger from him.

And why has he become so good (IMO anyway)? Because, even though he still thinks Brexit is very important (and it is) it is no longer the be-all and end-all.

Others could learn from that.


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"No deal is better than a bad deal."

However you define a "bad deal", that doesn't sound very accidental to me.


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Abi Wilkinson now totally pwning the execrable David Aaronovitch on Twitter. Do take a look while you still can.


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Abi Wilkinson now totally pwning the execrable David Aaronovitch on Twitter. Do take a look while you still can.

AK -- I looked for her yesterday but couldn't find her self, just a comment she made elsewhere , Linky Please ?

It did appear that D A was consorting with some very wicked people ...


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Abi Wilkinson now totally pwning the execrable David Aaronovitch on Twitter. Do take a look while you still can.

AK -- I looked for her yesterday but couldn't find her self, just a comment she made elsewhere , Linky Please ?

It did appear that D A was consorting with some very wicked people ...

Abi: https://twitter.com/AbiWilks?ref_src=tw ... r%5Eauthor


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frog222 wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Abi Wilkinson now totally pwning the execrable David Aaronovitch on Twitter. Do take a look while you still can.

AK -- I looked for her yesterday but couldn't find her self, just a comment she made elsewhere , Linky Please ?

It did appear that D A was consorting with some very wicked people ...


https://mobile.twitter.com/AbiWilks?ref ... r%5Eauthor

She seemed to disappear yesterday, but can find her now.


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frog222 wrote:
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Abi Wilkinson now totally pwning the execrable David Aaronovitch on Twitter. Do take a look while you still can.

AK -- I looked for her yesterday but couldn't find her self, just a comment she made elsewhere , Linky Please ?

It did appear that D A was consorting with some very wicked people ...


No, it was his colleague Danny Finkelstein doing that. AW called him out, DA claimed she was being outrageous and libellous and was duly shredded.


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TKSVM to refitman TBG AK !


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Incidentally I had breakfast in town with my friend Siggi, whose father was one of the first SA and then SS.

He remembered telling me five years ago there was no chance of a german equivalent of our Front National...

Also that there is considerable self-censorship there on the Israel subject. For fear of being accused of AS .


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Incidentally I had breakfast in town with my friend Siggi, whose father was one of the first SA and then SS.

He remembered telling me five years ago there was no chance of a german equivalent of our Front National...

Also that there is considerable self-censorship there on the Israel subject. For fear of being accused of AS .


Hmmm, I thought the AfD at least make a few nods in that direction?


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Incidentally I had breakfast in town with my friend Siggi, whose father was one of the first SA and then SS.

He remembered telling me five years ago there was no chance of a german equivalent of our Front National...

Also that there is considerable self-censorship there on the Israel subject. For fear of being accused of AS .


Hmmm, I thought the AfD at least make a few nods in that direction?

AK -- hmmm , strangely enough I had noticed that too.

it may well have been SIX or even SEVEN years ago .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_for_Germany


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Anybody out there?


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Yes!

I've just been reading John McDonnell on universal basic income:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 71616.html

I remain sceptical, I'm afraid. I

You give people money and the spivs and the shysters will just work out ways to take it off them.

That's why I'm a fan of renting people council houses. It fulfils a need - shelter - in a way that makes it difficult for the already wealthy to get their hands on any of the money involved. Think about how the right-wing is especially exercised over life time leases and you'll see what I mean.

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HindleA wrote:
https://mainlymacro.blogspot.com/2018/08/how-bbc-balance-and-bad-think-tanks.html

How BBC balance and bad think tanks discourage evidence based policy
Wren-Lewis
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The Knowledge Transmission Mechanism (KTM) is how knowledge produced by academics and other researchers is translated into public policy. Evidence based policy is the result of this mechanism working.
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The rigid application of political balance in the broadcast media is in danger of negating the KTM, and therefore evidence based policy.
The moment an issue (call it issue X) is deemed ‘political’ by the media, balance dictates that any view expressed on issue X is an opinion rather than knowledge.
(cJA bold)

I liked this Wren-Lewis article a lot
Calling an issue political doesn't have to mean it's not knowledge-based and factual. A 'political' issue doesn't make it an opinion. A 'political' issue can be factual, verifiable.


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Anybody out there?

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I'm a fan of renting people council houses. It fulfils a need - shelter - in a way that makes it difficult for the already wealthy to get their hands on any of the money involved. Think about how the right-wing is especially exercised over life time leases and you'll see what I mean.
(cJA edit)

Precisely; a safe home is essential. It's impossible to do more than survive without a safe home. Take care of that for everyone and worlds open up for them.


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Happy Yorkshire Day!

I'm celebrating in Cumbria ;-)


A Yorkshire bit of Cumbria? (Dent, Sedbergh, Garsdale)
-we were in Dent 2 yrs ago, on Yorkshire day, pleased to see one of useful things their mp (Farron) had done was get Dent beer served in house of commons.
Ironically I think we may be in Furness, so Lancashire :-o


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Anybody out there?


Siesta after the swim, reading more Peston WTF ? plus sawing firewood for winter !

( No Russian gas away from the towns here . )


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I know opinions on Basic Income differ here, but I have always thought it a concept with real possibilities.

Its true that some right wing "libertarian" types support a version of it (the late Milton Friedman did) but that alone shouldn't put people off the idea.

A radical left wing government could well find pursuing this attractive.


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Government says it will take control of Grenfell Tower site

U-turn means Kensington and Chelsea council will ‘take no role’ in decisions over site
(Guardian)


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/01/government-says-it-will-take-control-of-grenfell-tower-site


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Government says it will take control of Grenfell Tower site

U-turn means Kensington and Chelsea council will ‘take no role’ in decisions over site
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/01/government-says-it-will-take-control-of-grenfell-tower-site
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I was up before five this morning, and heard the R4 reports of the Corbyn Apology.

My immediate DailyMail headline-generator response was —

CORBYN CRAWLS !


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
I know opinions on Basic Income differ here, but I have always thought it a concept with real possibilities.

Its true that some right wing "libertarian" types support a version of it (the late Milton Friedman did) but that alone shouldn't put people off the idea.

A radical left wing government could well find pursuing this attractive.


OR some variation on it ... Good BTL discussion here --

labour-universal-basic-income-and-a-job-guarantee/

http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2018 ... guarantee/


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"Boris Johnson tops Conservative poll as favourite to replace Theresa May"
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Boris Johnson has returned to being the darling of the Tory grassroots after quitting government in protest at the prime minister's Brexit strategy

Just think how popular he'd be if he took the next step & quit politics.


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Given his foreign policy "successes" we'd probably be at war with China by Day 3 or his Premiership...

Evening all. Moderately successful day in t'library - some questions answered, other questions still leave me baffled.

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"Boris Johnson tops Conservative poll as favourite to replace Theresa May"
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Just think how popular he'd be if he took the next step & quit politics.

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Zimbabwe election unrest turns deadly as army opens fire on protesters
Three people killed after live ammunition, water cannon and teargas fired in capital

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... -elections


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