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Call for Gove to give evidence over school abuse case claims

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DWP figures provide fresh evidence to explain PIP claim rejections

This week, DWP produced those figures, which show that of a random sample of 100 Capita reports, 94 PIP decisions were made without any further contact at all with the company.

And of 100 Atos reports, 97 decisions were made without any further contact with the company once DWP had received the assessment report.


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We like to mock Trump, but Britain’s Russia stance is even worse Jonathan Freedland

"""" Given that Banks has never explained the precise source of the £9m he gave to the Brexit campaign – the largest single donation in UK political history – the fact that the Russians lavished such preferential attention on him requires explanation, starting with: what exactly did they expect in return?

That Russia was ready to do its bit to make Brexit happen is already well-established. We have had for nearly a year the documented proof that the Kremlin ran a social media campaign through the Internet Research Agency, its troll farm in St Petersburg, using more than 400 fake Twitter accounts to push for a British exit from the EU. """"

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Jim Murphy of the Scottish Labour Party Henry Jackson Society joins the anti-Corbyn collective -

""" Jim Murphy has taken out a full page advert in the Glasgow edition of the Jewish Telegraph to offer an apology to British Jews and to accuse Corbyn of failing to do enough to throw anti-Semites out of his party."""
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... k-homepage

SkyNews has dug up tapes from 2011 and 2013 , where JC compared the Israeli Occupation with those of the Germans in WW2.
https://news.sky.com/story/labour-anti- ... s-11469216
Actually for much of that war the Occupation where I live was easier under the Germans than that of the West Bank Palestinians under the Israelis. Logical enough, because people were not being thrown off their land to be replaced by colonists. In the East it was of course a completely different story.


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https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/dwp-figures-provide-fresh-evidence-to-explain-pip-claim-rejections/
DWP figures provide fresh evidence to explain PIP claim rejections
This week, DWP produced those figures, which show that of a random sample of 100 Capita reports, 94 PIP decisions were made without any further contact at all with the company.
And of 100 Atos reports, 97 decisions were made without any further contact with the company once DWP had received the assessment report.

This bit is quite er surprising -

"""Figures from social security tribunals show the proportion of claimants who won their PIP appeals rose by seven percentage points in a year, from 64 per cent in the fourth quarter of 2016-17 to 71 per cent in the same period of 2017-18. """

What I'm missing there is what proportion of Atos/Capita decisions are appealed ?


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Jim Murphy went to great lengths to keep Rhea Wolfson - who is Jewish - off last year's NEC ballot.

He was ultimately about as successful as in his efforts to win seats for SLab in the 2015 GE.


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Boris Johnson looks like a c*nt, say letterboxes

https://rochdaleherald.co.uk/2018/08/10 ... tterboxes/


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Boris Johnson looks like a c*nt, say letterboxes

https://rochdaleherald.co.uk/2018/08/10 ... tterboxes/


Some have defended his "letterbox" comments, citing the likes of Polly Toynbee and Stephen Fry making that comparison before.

Missing that it wasn't the most offensive part of his diatribe - that was the "bank robber" analogy, dog whistling on an almost Bannonite level.


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Makes quite a useful disguise, but must remember to shave first ...

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Well, I am relieved that somebody has shown up.


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Well, I am relieved that somebody has shown up.

They may all be on a diversity training course, at last becoming gloomed by recent events, or perhaps just busy :-)

I'm being idle , for ex beginning a Neil Gaiman I picked up for €1 yesterday, pruning back branches overloaded with apples , and about to go outside again for some more exercise !

PS a fiend , not a Corbynista, recommended this dispiriting negative read--

http://thequietus.com/articles/18714-je ... y-policies

which couldn't be more critical of his previous gallopingly unwise associations, but ...

“” And yet, and yet… the cold reality of casting a vote for Yvette Cooper, her exciting plans for cutting corporation tax, her benefits crackdown… “”


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Its from three years ago - I remember reading it at the time.

In some ways the author's relative pessimism has been borne out, but in important respects not.


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AK -- 2015 I saw of course , and I think I see what you mean by that relative pessimism .... but what a line-up it was to choose between !

A few days ago we had a bit on Glenda Jackson on that horrible AS argy-bargy, and I found her refreshingly robust !

Out for a bit, some exercise before dark .


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AK -- 2015 I saw of course , and I think I see what you mean by that relative pessimism .... but what a line-up it was to choose between !

A few days ago we had a bit on Glenda Jackson on that horrible AS argy-bargy, and I found her refreshingly robust !

Out for a bit, some exercise before dark .


DFH claimed on Twitter that his mum had moved more to his POV on political matters recently - not much evidence of that, then?


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
frog222 wrote:
AK -- 2015 I saw of course , and I think I see what you mean by that relative pessimism .... but what a line-up it was to choose between !

A few days ago we had a bit on Glenda Jackson on that horrible AS argy-bargy, and I found her refreshingly robust !

Out for a bit, some exercise before dark .


DFH claimed on Twitter that his mum had moved more to his POV on political matters recently - not much evidence of that, then?

AK -- I think she has very much her own POV, this is recent, mostly about showbiz , relevant bit here--
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"""As for the anti-Semitism row currently roiling Labour, Jackson said, “Jeremy Corbyn is not a racist, and I don’t believe he is anti-Semitic. What he is is pro-Palestinian. That presumably is where the conflict comes from, and whatever has been misread and misinterpreted.”

Jackson said she too had experienced “serious criticism” from Jewish organizations because of her own criticism of the Israeli government.

However, she recognizes the present rise of anti-Semitism: she recalled Jewish constituents in 2015 saying they were thinking of leaving Britain. “I don't know where it’s come from, but no one seems able to handle it. Do we never learn? Dear God, it’s scandalous.”

Jackson said she had never met an anti-Semitic Labour Party member, but that the leadership should look into the issue and take appropriate action.

“Our electoral chances were pretty slim even without this. It certainly doesn't help.”

Jackson doesn’t know who the party base is now – “That absolutely working class vote. Where is the working class vote now?” So, Corbyn isn’t an election-winning leader for her? “No, we’re not going to win, but then are they? (Theresa May’s Conservative party ... """

https://www.thedailybeast.com/tony-nomi ... ref=scroll

The one from 2011 where she stands up to jewish constituents --

"" The MP dug her heels in when asked by a Birmingham student about hate speech on campus. The student was distressed by the comments made at Birmingham Palestine Society by a visiting speaker, Mike Prysner, who compared Israel's actions with the Holocaust. But Ms Jackson was unmoved. Free speech on campus was "precious", she said, adding: "I don't think that is hate speech, I think it's stupid and insensitive if someone does that. But it isn't hate speech. If people do preach hate on campus there are laws to prevent that."

She said she had met Manchester University students during a lobby of Parliament. "They argued that everyone speaking on campus should have their speech vetted. I couldn't believe it. You cannot do that." ""

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/glen ... ch-1.21473


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https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... deductions

Third of UK’s universal credit claimants hit by deductions from payments

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... nd-by-2027

£100m drive to end rough sleeping in England by 2027


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"We recognise the importance of safeguarding claimants who we have by design enacted and exacerbatrd any existing debt and there are protections in place for the claimants, we made vulnerable but we also have a responsibility to the taxpayer which they mysteriously aren't to collect advances of benefits where possible."


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The usual ,othering,barely concealed contempt,patronising at best in the language used.


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But that hate speech is o.k.


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/more-than-100-pro-leave-constituencies-switch-to-remain

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Bumboils I was debating with myself about going to the Derby/Leeds match until it was too late.


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Bumboils I was debating with myself about going to the Derby/Leeds match until it was too late.


It will be interesting under Bielsa, if nothing else.......


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Book review -- Completely withering on ABdPJohnson's attempt at writing history . The phrases quoted are so ridiculous that they are literally almost unbelievable ...

https://www.newstatesman.com/books/2014 ... -churchill


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Ministers urged to abandon Voter ID as rollout at general election estimated to cost up to £20m
Electoral Reform Society warns the cost equates to £700,000 per fraud allegation - given just 28 claims of impersonation at ballot box were made at 2017 election


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Labour urges windfall tax on failing rail firms to compensate chaos-hit travellers


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More than 100 seats that backed Brexit now want to stay in EU

Major new analysis shows most constituencies now have majority who want to Remain

The analysis [by Focaldata], one of the most comprehensive assessments of Brexit sentiment since the referendum, suggests the shift has been driven by doubts among Labour voters who backed Leave.

As a result, the trend is starkest in the north of England and Wales – Labour heartlands in which Brexit sentiment appears to be changing. The development will heap further pressure on Jeremy Corbyn to soften the party’s opposition to reconsidering Britain’s EU departure. (Observer - my emphasis)


Focaldata? Does anyone here know anything about them, please? I'd never heard of them before now.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/11/more-than-100-pro-leave-constituencies-switch-to-remain


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Bumboils.


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Focaldata - an Italian soft cheese?


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Bumboils -it's a hat-trick


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https://www.focaldata.com


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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45155530


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https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... s-clearing

Middle-class teenagers 'play the system to get into top universities'


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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/0 ... ssion=true

Sheer scale of council cuts to day centres is forcing families to put loved ones in full-time care

Will provide full article on request.

(A wry smile because it is the same paper that goes apeshit about direct payments and use for holidays etc-cost saving and choice-how very dare they,especially the non sufficiently wrinkled handed)


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Getting rid of the need to feel superior /good about ourselves subject to controlling others would be a fine thing indeed.


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Bumboils I was debating with myself about going to the Derby/Leeds match until it was too late.

I debated with myself for about 10 seconds whether to go to the pub over the road to watch it.

Leeds are playing astonishingly well, no doubt about it.


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I've supported them for 47 years,never seen them play.Had the excuse of not being in the same Country to begin with...


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Bumboils -it's a hat-trick


I think you need to get those seen to, personally.


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/more-than-100-pro-leave-constituencies-switch-to-remain

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -to-remain


Treat with a bit of scepticism (especially the claims for individual constituencies) but still interesting.


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Afternoon all.

Not much seems to have happened, politically speaking, while I was away. Westminster seems a long way away sitting among the sand dunes on Anglesey or taking a leisurely walk along the Miner's path to Mt Snowdon (not actually up Snowden, far too energetic, but we still got some fantastic views, nonetheless).

8 months til we leave the EU and virtually nothing is happening to prepare. May needs to get some kind of withdrawal agreement or an extension of the article 50 period or we're stuffed, basically. I still see no real route to calling Brexit off or getting a second referendum bill through parliament. (Or, indeed, Tory MPs voting to dissolve parliament and give Labour a go at it). So our fate pretty much lies in Theresa May's hands, holding back leadership challenges and facing down the hardline Brexiters in her party. Not looking very hopeful, is it? :(

Might just run away to here and hide, if it all goes pear shaped:

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Willow904 wrote:
Afternoon all.

Not much seems to have happened, politically speaking, while I was away. Westminster seems a long way away sitting among the sand dunes on Anglesey or taking a leisurely walk along the Miner's path to Mt Snowdon (not actually up Snowden, far too energetic, but we still got some fantastic views, nonetheless).

8 months til we leave the EU and virtually nothing is happening to prepare. May needs to get some kind of withdrawal agreement or an extension of the article 50 period or we're stuffed, basically. I still see no real route to calling Brexit off or getting a second referendum bill through parliament. (Or, indeed, Tory MPs voting to dissolve parliament and give Labour a go at it). So our fate pretty much lies in Theresa May's hands, holding back leadership challenges and facing down the hardline Brexiters in her party. Not looking very hopeful, is it? :(

Might just run away to here and hide, if it all goes pear shaped:

Willow, I wondered where you were :-)
Some of my misspent youth was spent charging around Snowdonia... 'sleeping' under a groundsheet. In winter .
Reading Hindle's post just before yours, get ready to run away !


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Snowdonia Marathon on my to do list.Snowdon was my better half's maiden name.


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https://medium.com/@anyabike/corbyns-open-secret-22a70fa03254

""" I do hope someone is going to ask Corbyn whose graves he was referring to if not the three “martyrs” and Atef Bseiso. Because the photos published in the Mail together with Corbyn’s own account clearly suggest he did help lay a wreath and pray at the grave of men who were closely involved in planning and executing the Munich massacre. And that really should be a resigning matter."""

Whoops !

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