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Monday 13th August 2018

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Morning all.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... xit-remain" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
‘They don’t know what they’re doing’: Leave-voting Swansea turns on Brexit
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It does look like Wales has turned against Brexit somewhat, then again it was a big surprise (unlike England) that they voted "leave" in the first place.
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Turkey's currency crisis.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... pport-lira" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Erdoğan calls on Turks to back lira by selling their dollars and euros
Good luck with that.
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Good-morning, everyone
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gilsey wrote:Turkey's currency crisis.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... pport-lira" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Erdoğan calls on Turks to back lira by selling their dollars and euros
Good luck with that.
We may just possibly find, yet again, that you can't actually eat nationalism.
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people forget ties binding our lives together
food grown, harvested, transported
medicine, energy, communications, transportation networks, law enforcement, emergency workers
we rely on each other making our lives possible
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Willow 7.28PM "" Would he rather not prefer May to orchestrate a soft Brexit landing first so he can take over a half functioning country? I don't know. Ideally he'll be crushed under the callous stupidity of his comments and we'll never need to find out.""

I'd say that it's already less than half-functioning for many millions

These councils smashed themselves to bits. Who will pick up the pieces? Aditya Chakrabortty
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ire-barnet" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Police forces are ‘failing the public’ due to cuts, Police Federation chief warns
‘We are moving into an area where some crimes will not be investigated ... we can’t do everything’
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/c ... 85316.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Tories really are an open goal ....
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As far as B Johnson is concerned, I'm convinced there is "dirt" on him that hasn't been publicly aired yet........
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:As far as B Johnson is concerned, I'm convinced there is "dirt" on him that hasn't been publicly aired yet........
http://zelo-street.blogspot.com/2018/08 ... hnson.html

Do you mean this or something else? Her story about his racism with the melon certainly rings true.
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People delude themselves if doing o.k.,they are at least reliant on the State as those they look down on.
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And think they are paying for,when in actual fact it is the other way around before you get to the cost savings that make any income tax a mere rounding error in comparison,yet they cheer on there own potential and actual harm.
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GetYou wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:As far as B Johnson is concerned, I'm convinced there is "dirt" on him that hasn't been publicly aired yet........
http://zelo-street.blogspot.com/2018/08 ... hnson.html

Do you mean this or something else? Her story about his racism with the melon certainly rings true.
Could be along those lines, might very possibly be something not even hinted at as of yet.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:As far as B Johnson is concerned, I'm convinced there is "dirt" on him that hasn't been publicly aired yet........
I can't help thinking that there's more than enough dirt for half of us already, and if it isn't enough to convince the other half then I don't know what would.

He isn't a fit person to be in public life.
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HindleA wrote:And think they are paying for,when in actual fact it is the other way around before you get to the cost savings that make any income tax a mere rounding error in comparison,yet they cheer on there own potential and actual harm.
Exactly
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gilsey wrote:---
I can't help thinking that there's more than enough dirt for half of us already, and if it isn't enough to convince the other half then I don't know what would.

He isn't a fit person to be in public life.
(cJA edit)

I wholeheartedly agree with you
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Re: Monday 13th August 2018

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What I don't know about contemporary macroeconomics is a lot.
I know enough to know ignorance is encouraged, cultivated.
It's an opaque business.
No one can eat, drink or breathe currency.
Currency doesn't provide adequate shelter either.
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Credit where it's due, Justin Webb of Toady gave the ministerial weasel Brokenshire a good going over this morning ---

No new cash behind Government rough sleeping strategy, minister admits
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/co ... g-strategy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So why has the bbc been publicising it since as though it meant something ?
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gilsey wrote:Turkey's currency crisis.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... pport-lira" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Erdoğan calls on Turks to back lira by selling their dollars and euros
Good luck with that.
https://wolfstreet.com/wp-content/uploa ... 08-10-.png" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Image

The knock-on effects for Spain and less so France are quite considerable, but not yet in disaster mode . But wait for the other countries who borrowed in foreign currencies ...

Bloinggg !
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/jeremy-corbyn/news/97541/watch-jeremy-corbyn-admits-he-was
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/po ... its-he-was" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Is Sajid Javid calling for his resignation because he expects a replacement to be even worse electorally ? :-)
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Donald Trump decided to use the opportunity to renew his war with California by nonsensically blaming the wildfires on environmental laws.
Donald J. Trump(@realDonaldTrump)
California wildfires are being magnified & made so much worse by the bad environmental laws which aren’t allowing massive amounts of readily available water to be properly utilized. It is being diverted into the Pacific Ocean. Must also tree clear to stop fire from spreading! August 6, 2018
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Answers to that --
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... got-burned" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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The world is on fire
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"Increased forest fire activity across the western United States in recent decades has contributed to widespread forest mortality, carbon emissions, periods of degraded air quality, and substantial fire suppression expenditures. Although numerous factors aided the recent rise in fire activity, observed warming and drying have significantly increased fire-season fuel aridity, fostering a more favorable fire environment across forested systems. We demonstrate that human-caused climate change caused over half of the documented increases in fuel aridity since the 1970s and doubled the cumulative forest fire area since 1984. This analysis suggests that anthropogenic climate change will continue to chronically enhance the potential for western US forest fire activity while fuels are not limiting."

http://www.pnas.org/content/113/42/11770" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

- Impact of anthropogenic climate change on wildfire across western US forests
John T. Abatzoglou and A. Park Williams
PNAS October 18, 2016. 113 (42) 11770-11775; published ahead of print October 10, 2016
Edited by Monica G. Turner, University of Wisconsin–Madison, Madison, WI, and approved July 28, 2016 (received for review May 5, 2016)
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Wow this Netanyahu story is something else!
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(((Dan Hodges)))
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Corbyn has made the biggest mistake of his leadership with his Netanyahu response. In the past he has dealt with these things by gliding over them. But now he will have to explain in detail what he did at the wreath laying. And he can't do that. Because Netanyahu is right.
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:(((Dan Hodges)))
‏@DPJHodges

Corbyn has made the biggest mistake of his leadership with his Netanyahu response. In the past he has dealt with these things by gliding over them. But now he will have to explain in detail what he did at the wreath laying. And he can't do that. Because Netanyahu is right.
https://twitter.com/DPJHodges" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
FUBAR !
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