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Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sat 08 Sep, 2018 10:01 pm
by PorFavor
Constance has yet to show an interest in the zither.

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sat 08 Sep, 2018 10:14 pm
by PorFavor
This might inspire her. And I rather like it.

[youtube]2oEsWi88Qv0[/youtube]

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sat 08 Sep, 2018 10:15 pm
by PorFavor
She's just moved to sit next to the speaker. Good sign?

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sat 08 Sep, 2018 10:30 pm
by PorFavor
Bombshell poll reveals heavy union backing for second Brexit vote

Survey of Unite, Unison and GMB members reveals 2-1 support for new referendum
(Observer)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... referendum

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sat 08 Sep, 2018 10:57 pm
by PorFavor
Night night.

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sat 08 Sep, 2018 11:15 pm
by HindleA
If they are dropping bombs at them,surprised it wasn't unanimous

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sat 08 Sep, 2018 11:30 pm
by HindleA
Looking up Lenny Kravitz concert dates I blame PfY and his was I standing next to Yuko Ono request for information.

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sat 08 Sep, 2018 11:31 pm
by HindleA
Bloody "people" forcing me to investigate such things.

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sat 08 Sep, 2018 11:38 pm
by HindleA
Just 'phoned up Yuko,yes it was.Another successful result,I embarrass myself in my overgenerosity and ability to make ridiculous things up in equal measure.I'm a fool/ to myself.delete as appropriate.

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sat 08 Sep, 2018 11:39 pm
by HindleA
Not a splurge tying up loose ends

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sat 08 Sep, 2018 11:52 pm
by HindleA
I suppose you recognise/see judicious accounting for circumstances and of course potential self interest or you fall for the comparing to the not comparable at all ruse.Not even left/right just application of thought/avoidance of knee jerk.IMHO

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 12:00 am
by HindleA
Even the "genuine" narrative fakery falls at the first hurdle as if reduction means gain.

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 12:07 am
by HindleA
Has Alan Partridge become the editor of the Observer?

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 12:07 am
by HindleA
O.K. semi splurge

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 12:13 am
by HindleA
Iapetus,Tethys,Enceladus,Dione,mimas,

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 9:39 am
by HindleA
https://www.dw.com/en/sweden-elections- ... a-45408590" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 9:40 am
by Willow904
Morning.
Sir Alan Duncan MP
@AlanDuncanMP
For Boris to say that the PM’s view is like that of a suicide bomber is too much. This marks one of the most disgusting moments in modern British politics. I’m sorry, but this is the political end of Boris Johnson. If it isn’t now, I will make sure it is later.
#neverfittogovern

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 9:57 am
by HindleA
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/home ... rch-powers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Press release

Home Office proposes extending stop and search powers

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 10:14 am
by Willow904
Mike Smithson
@MSmithsonPB
By 46% to 39% CON voters in latest YouGov poll say Johnson is NOT up to the job of being PM.
8:11 AM · Sep 9, 2018
Johnson's star starting to fade?

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 10:58 am
by AnatolyKasparov
Willow904 wrote:Morning.
Sir Alan Duncan MP
@AlanDuncanMP
For Boris to say that the PM’s view is like that of a suicide bomber is too much. This marks one of the most disgusting moments in modern British politics. I’m sorry, but this is the political end of Boris Johnson. If it isn’t now, I will make sure it is later.
#neverfittogovern
Looking like Labour's little local disputes could be overshadowed soon......

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 11:25 am
by citizenJA
HindleA wrote:Will the coalition be seen as generally enacting harm or more mixed?
It was a Tory government
edited to add

general harm

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 11:31 am
by citizenJA
Good-morning, everyone

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 11:33 am
by AnatolyKasparov
HindleA wrote:Has Alan Partridge become the editor of the Observer?
Intrigued at what exactly prompted this.......

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 11:45 am
by citizenJA
...Javid told BBC1’s The Andrew Marr Show: “I’m glad the police and other experts are looking into this, and thinking what might happen in a no-deal scenario. I don’t expect a no-deal outcome, but we need to prepare for all contingencies, and it’s absolutely correct. And that’s what we’ve been doing across government, including my own department, so of course that means working closely with police. I’m not going to get into what the situation may or may not be, but I think it’s fair to say we’re preparing for all contingencies.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eal-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The language Javid uses shows how disconnected he considers police and other experts from government while freely admitting secrecy preparing for who knows what.

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 11:45 am
by HindleA
No I think it important to state coalition to put context and evidential in Government practices.Non Tory partyists played an equal part in designing and stoically defending some of the most harmful ones.

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 11:49 am
by citizenJA
HindleA wrote:No I think it important to state coalition to put context and evidential in Government practices.Non Tory partyists played an equal part in designing and stoically defending some of the most harmful ones.
I agree with you

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 11:52 am
by HindleA
AK "on that bombshell"-union poll headline.

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 12:10 pm
by HindleA
In any governmental "reign",regardless of party(ies) there will be some things I agree with but even with as an example the extension (pun) of reduction of CT on the basis of disability for annexes whilst at the same time making existing rooms used specifically for care chargeable subject to discretion for others somewhat revealed that they were completely aware and political machination cynically deployed.

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 12:32 pm
by HindleA
Constance attempting Tomorrow's World theme tune on zither,at least I think it is.

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 12:34 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Willow904 wrote:
Mike Smithson
@MSmithsonPB
By 46% to 39% CON voters in latest YouGov poll say Johnson is NOT up to the job of being PM.
8:11 AM · Sep 9, 2018
Johnson's star starting to fade?
His popularity actually peaked around the 2012 Olympics.

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 1:32 pm
by HindleA
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/we-a ... 36a6eb87d0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


We allow the rich to escape charges, admits taxman
HMRC says secret deals are done to avoid denting the reputations of the powerful, sparking fears for equality under the law

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 2:52 pm
by PorFavor
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Willow904 wrote:
Mike Smithson
@MSmithsonPB
By 46% to 39% CON voters in latest YouGov poll say Johnson is NOT up to the job of being PM.
8:11 AM · Sep 9, 2018
Johnson's star starting to fade?
His popularity actually peaked around the 2012 Olympics.
Well hopefully, he's now for the high-jump.

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 4:02 pm
by HindleA
Guardian coverage of Swedish election.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... ction-live" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 4:48 pm
by HindleA
National Canine League calling for an end to "weaponisation"

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 5:22 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
@HindleA

Kravitz Ono conundrum still unresolved ;-)

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 5:23 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
The Kravitz Ono Conundrum sounds a bit like a Robert Ludlum thriller doesn't it?

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 5:25 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
@MitchBenn
Mitch Benn Retweeted Alvinfisher#Standup4Brexit.

The trouble with “Brexit Means Brexit” is that “Brexit” is a neologism; the word has only existed for about three years and for that whole time there’s been no consensus on what it actually DOES mean.

Might as well say “Arglefoob means Arglefoob”.

:lol:

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 5:49 pm
by PorFavor
British army 'explicitly targeting' working-class recruits, say critics

Recruitment drive focuses on teenagers seeking adrenaline, says Child Soldiers International (Guardian)
Always have done, really, so far as I can remember. The one on TV for the Royal Navy seems to target the lonely. It's all a bit underhand and exploitative, it seems to me.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ay-critics



Edited to add link

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 6:55 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Swedish Democrats "only" third with 16% in the first exit poll released.

Fingers crossed?

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 7:07 pm
by Willow904
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... nce-system" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A no-deal Brexit would mean the estimated £39bn final payment to Brussels would instead be largely used for the NHS, the document argues. Another “Brexit bonus” would come from cuts to income and capital gains tax, business rates and stamp duty.
I'm not quite clear how tax cuts are anything to do with Brexit and certainly don't see how they are a "bonus".

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 7:15 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
SD's narrowly second in the other exit poll with about 19%. Social Democrats top with about a quarter of the vote in both.

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 7:33 pm
by Willow904
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/en ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
John McDonnell Attacks ‘Horrendous’ Tory Disability Cuts And Vows To Tackle Suicides Linked To Welfare Reforms

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 8:14 pm
by frog222
Willow904 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... em[quote]A no-deal Brexit would mean the estimated £39bn final payment to Brussels would instead be largely used for the NHS, the document argues. Another “Brexit bonus” would come from cuts to income and capital gains tax, business rates and stamp duty.
I'm not quite clear how tax cuts are anything to do with Brexit and certainly don't see how they are a "bonus".[/quote]
Cutting tax rates was "Singapore on Thames" :-)

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 8:20 pm
by frog222
HindleA wrote:https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/we-a ... 36a6eb87d0 We allow the rich to escape charges, admits taxman
HMRC says secret deals are done to avoid denting the reputations of the powerful, sparking fears for equality under the law
Important one !
“” HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) has admitted for the first time that it allows the most powerful members of society to escape prosecution for financial crimes.

At an economic crime conference in Cambridge last week, a senior government official admitted that the tax authorities accommodated celebrities’ concerns and settled debts privately to avoid the embarrassment of a public trial.

HMRC, however, continues to prosecute smugglers, small businesses and benefits cheats.

Richard Las, the deputy director of HMRC in charge of organised crime, said that “very wealthy and prominent members of the community” were afraid of the “reputational damage” that a criminal trial for fraud, money-laundering or tax evasion would bring.

He admitted that “criminal justice” was never a “default option” for HMRC. “We use it… ""PAYWALL!
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The funny crazy barking mad bit is that when first approached, HMRC denied it , saying

We’re not a banana Republic, you know .”

Oh yes you are, but without the sunshine !

PS The other sexy bit is that they did not prosecute someone because he was a MAJOR donor to the Tories .

WTF ?

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 8:37 pm
by frog222
Image

Ben Jennings

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 9:18 pm
by frog222
Found it !

“” In 2016 the panama papers, revealing the ways in which the rich were able to exploit secretive offshore tax regimes, led to four arrests and six interviews under caution by HMRC.

Earlier this year, it also emerged that HMRC had refused to assist a French organisation into suspected money-laundering and tax fraud by the UK telecoms giant Lycamobile because the company was one of the biggest corporate donor’s of the Conservative Party.

In the past online business giants such as Amazon, Google, Apple and Facebook have also come under scrutiny after it was revealed they funnelled their European sales through countries including Ireland and Luxembourg where they were offered lower corporation tax rates. “”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... deals.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Love that comma :-)

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 9:41 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
frog222 wrote:Found it !

“” In 2016 the panama papers, revealing the ways in which the rich were able to exploit secretive offshore tax regimes, led to four arrests and six interviews under caution by HMRC.

Earlier this year, it also emerged that HMRC had refused to assist a French organisation into suspected money-laundering and tax fraud by the UK telecoms giant Lycamobile because the company was one of the biggest corporate donor’s of the Conservative Party.

In the past online business giants such as Amazon, Google, Apple and Facebook have also come under scrutiny after it was revealed they funnelled their European sales through countries including Ireland and Luxembourg where they were offered lower corporation tax rates. “”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... deals.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Love that comma :-)
Comma? ;-)

@PorFavor

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 10:00 pm
by PorFavor
Ha!

Apperstroff.

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 10:18 pm
by frog222
PorFavor wrote:Ha!

Apperstroff.
Of course! Losing my English or is it the whole brain ? Haven't been drinking either :-)

Still i wanted to draw attention to the link .

Re: Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th September 2018

Posted: Sun 09 Sep, 2018 10:27 pm
by PorFavor
@frog222

Yes - it's a good (?) story. HindleA mentioned the Times version earlier - but I'm not a subscriber so I couldn't read the full works.