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PostPosted: Sun 23 Sep, 2018 7:16 pm 
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frog222 wrote:
“”I was elected leader of this Party, and I’m going to do what I’m told.””


Alternative translation - "I believe in party democracy"?


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Just seen Andy Beckett's "long read" in the Graun about the eclipse of "third way" politics. He is one of their best writers these days, and this is typically good.

(and not a surprise that Ed Miliband comes across better in it than almost everybody else)


I can't find it. Would you provide a link, please?


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Just seen Andy Beckett's "long read" in the Graun about the eclipse of "third way" politics. He is one of their best writers these days, and this is typically good.
(and not a surprise that Ed Miliband comes across better in it than almost everybody else)

Found it :-)
The death of consensus: how conflict came back to politics
New Labour’s ‘third way’ promised to end the clash between left and right. But did the fantasy of politics without strife create our age of anger?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... o-politics
To read, the third way sounds like the End of History 2.0 ...


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Everybody too wrapped up in conference proceedings to post here, then?

I was cleaning the house
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Local apples, raspberries and nectarines (added on a whim) & honey
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Just waiting to see what gets voted through (whilst defrosting the freezer, a chore I've been putting off for way too long) and reading the Angela Rayner interview in the G. She comes across quite well, I think.
I've not defrosted the freezer yet
I haven't read the Rayner interview either
I've met her once briefly; I enjoyed speaking with her


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
frog222 wrote:
“”I was elected leader of this Party, and I’m going to do what I’m told.””

Alternative translation - "I believe in party democracy"?

Alternative meaning - "Why bother to have a ''leader" at all, let's vote on everything ! "
(See the Politburo ...)


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Just seen Andy Beckett's "long read" in the Graun about the eclipse of "third way" politics. He is one of their best writers these days, and this is typically good.
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From Beckett:
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"For the many voters who dislike confrontation and feel that democracy should be about dialogue and compromise, the new political disorder is frightening."
(cJA edit)
I agree with this wholeheartedly.


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PorFavor wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Just seen Andy Beckett's "long read" in the Graun about the eclipse of "third way" politics. He is one of their best writers these days, and this is typically good.
(and not a surprise that Ed Miliband comes across better in it than almost everybody else)

I can't find it. Would you provide a link, please?

Beat you !
I also looked on the frontpage, a waste of time! Found it by searching "Andy Beckett's "long read" in the Graun" , which came up with his page.


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I note that the ST is still confused about the school system in England...

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Just four in ten students at the top universities of Oxford, Cambridge and Imperial College went to comprehensives, academies and other mainly non-selective schools, according to findings to be published tomorrow in The Sunday Times Good University Guide


Academies can be either comprehensives (the vast majority) or selective grammars.

That sentence simply makes no sense.

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it makes no sense because it's inaccurate
a lie


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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... t-13295635

labour-could-scrap-universal-credit


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@frog222

Once upon a time, the Guardian had a search facility. Which was nice . . .


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PorFavor wrote:
@frog222 Once upon a time, the Guardian had a search facility. Which was nice . . .

I just do a right click to search, set to google at the mom, but others are available .


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PorFavor wrote:
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Once upon a time, the Guardian had a search facility. Which was nice . . .


Still a search option at the top of the page isn't there?


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@AngelaRayner

Labour to reveal plan to scrap free schools, listen to my full speech to conference tomorrow afternoon for full announcements.


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PostPosted: Sun 23 Sep, 2018 9:48 pm 
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
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Once upon a time, the Guardian had a search facility. Which was nice . . .
Still a search option at the top of the page isn't there?

Whether it's not there or not, much/most of the time you don't need to type anything, just select the phrase concerned and rightclick on it. The search opens itself.

That's with Chrome, others differ ?


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Right now on R4 a recording of Freedland knocking JC on AS , yet again !


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Margaret Hodge next up, Freedland again .
"People are fearful."

"Need for a very clear apology " etc etc etc etc etc etc

" JVL was founded to support Corbyn ...." ?????????????????????


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The papers --- "Cabinet Tories moving to Canada Plus ..." :-)
As if that could be done in a couple of weeks/months/even years !

Javid " free access to EU citizens for an extended period" :-)

Complete junk, all of it !

All options, STILL open .


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Hmmm...Just got in and it's 14.5 degrees in here, I think it may be time to put the heating on without being a massive wuss or irresponsible waster of Gaia's resources.

My awesome cardigan is no match for this kind of temperature.

Anyway woke up this morning to sounds of Corbyn being forced to accept the fact that 97% of his fanbase wanted a 'people's vote', so I lay back in bed and waited for the inevitable backlash from his mates and within half an hour we had Len McCluskey poo pooing the whole thing then a bunch of other Labour non entities trying to claim it would be a gift to the far right.

What the fuck? Brexit has already been a fucking gift to the far right, and not just them but every other racist idiot who previously would have remained quiet but is now emboldened to express their view in public.

I'd like to take Corbyn around Yorkshire for a day on the bus to hear the kind of shit I hear from the denizens of 'gods own county'.


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"" to hear the kind of shit I hear from the denizens of 'gods own county'.""

Demahcracy, yuh gotta love it :-)


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Democracy is fine as long as half of those voting aren't ignorant morons who refuse to learn anything from anything.

I don't know what to do about this.

Nobody does.

It'll probably be the death of humanity.


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Actually what will be the death of humanity is rich fuckwits in Silicon valley having access to treatments and implants and becoming even bigger dicks than they already are. Then we have the first AI then almost instantly we end.


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All that's left is to get drunk and stoned and hide in music and books or any other form of escapism that tickles your fancy.

Or just carry on regardless.


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I am now programmed to tell you all how wonderful the future will be. It will be like everything you love mixed with a giant mountain of awesome.


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