Fresh Tory war as Philip Hammond mocks Boris Johnson and says he won't be PM
We're leaving the EU in six months and the Tories in charge are just taking pot shots at each other.
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 9:56 am
by Willow904
Recounting a recent discussion on the pros and cons of the Canada option, Mr Hammond then broke into an impression of the former Foreign Secretary.
He said: "Boris sits there and at the end of it he says 'yeah but, er, there must be a way, I mean, if you just, if you, erm, come on, we can do it Phil, we can do it. I know we can get there.' And that's it!"
And much of the Tory voting population will be in agreement with Johnson, of course, and against Hammond for not believing enough in the indefatigable British spirit that can overcome everything, including reality.
Why we have to overcome something we've voluntarily chosen to do to ourselves is never explained. Must be one of those pesky details people like Boris Johnson don't need to bother themselves with.
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 10:10 am
by frog222
Good morning
There is much Tory talk right now about defending "Capitalism", but against exactly who or what ? I 'd heard reports of this famous John McD "Overthrow" phrase, so finally looked it up . " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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EDIT PS 9.25 ---- and of course what is this particular "Capitalism" they are so ardent about ?
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 10:25 am
by gilsey
McVile, Grayling & Raab this am at the CPC, no wonder there's nobody there.
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 10:30 am
by frog222
She is well-named
Tho her boss hasn't shown any remorse about her Hostile Environment either ...
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 10:55 am
by gilsey
Re the conservative MEPs being expelled, per yesterday's thread.
Cameron ceded too much ground, she says, to the “the monster that is the Eurosceptic party … He got that completely wrong because the more you chuck (at) them the more they grow.”
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 11:36 am
by AnatolyKasparov
gilsey wrote:Re the conservative MEPs being expelled, per yesterday's thread.
Cameron ceded too much ground, she says, to the “the monster that is the Eurosceptic party … He got that completely wrong because the more you chuck (at) them the more they grow.”
Yes, let's not forget that ultimately this is all CAMERON'S doing.
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 12:25 pm
by PorFavor
Good morfternoon. Have I got this right? Under the Conservatives, we're all going to live forever (according to Philip Hammond). Oh, and he's going to change Capitalism (there then follows the obligatory demonisation of John McDonnell).
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 12:32 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
My nickname of Rhyming Slang was pretty spot on wasn't it
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 12:42 pm
by PorFavor
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Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 12:55 pm
by PorFavor
Even some of the Conference audience members are rolling their eyes as Esther McVey delivers her speech.
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 12:56 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
RIP Geoffrey Hayes.
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 1:50 pm
by PorFavor
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Striking, rather Corbynite passage from Philip Hammond about the gap between theory of capitalism, and reality: "too many people feel that they have lost control; that they are working for the system; but the system isn’t working for them." (Politics Live, Guardian)
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 1:51 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
RIP Charles Aznavour.
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 3:57 pm
by GetYou
RIP Carlos Ezquerra.
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 4:15 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Moving from real to metaphorical death, anything happening at the Tory conference?
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 4:15 pm
by frog222
Laughs from the Live Thread-
" Only a handful of journalists attended despite the offer of free alcohol from pub chain Wetherspoon’s “non-EU drinks menu” and the promise of a short bus tour around the city of Birmingham, although that was not helped by the fact that PR agency involved only came on board at the last minute.
Nor was there any sign of Tim Martin, the Wetherspoon boss, who had billed as attending but in fact was not able to turn up until 4pm."
Journos turning down free drinks, what is the world coming to ?
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 4:18 pm
by frog222
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Moving from real to metaphorical death, anything happening at the Tory conference?
Labour saboteurs at work on the signage !
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Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 4:23 pm
by citizenJA
good-afternoon, everyone
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 5:04 pm
by PorFavor
I've just seen a recording of Jacob Rees Mogg's Conference Fringe speech. I didn't know (until I watched it) that he had used the "supercalifragilistic . . ." thing. Sorry. I feel grubby now. Or did he nick it from me?
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 5:18 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Not that surprising tbh, given that growing up with a nanny is one of the best known things about him.
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 5:40 pm
by refitman
GetYou wrote:RIP Carlos Ezquerra.
I'm really bummed about that. No more strips by him (unless there are any waiting to be published). Still get my 2000AD and Megazine delivered.
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 5:55 pm
by tinyclanger2
@Sky on humanity - sadly can't help but agree overall.
Obviously there are exceptions, but either there aren't enough of us or we just aren't effective enough.
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 5:57 pm
by tinyclanger2
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
gilsey wrote:Re the conservative MEPs being expelled, per yesterday's thread.
Cameron ceded too much ground, she says, to the “the monster that is the Eurosceptic party … He got that completely wrong because the more you chuck (at) them the more they grow.”
Yes, let's not forget that ultimately this is all CAMERON'S doing.
Am v unlikely to do so.
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 6:24 pm
by refitman
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Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 6:44 pm
by RogerOThornhill
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Reed Mogg says he wants to stop migrants driving down wages and help the poor worker. Without immigrants, he continues, employers will invest in automation ... which will, er, throw workers out of their. jobs
I hope that at some point soon JRM will be seen by more people than now to be the complete charlatan that he clearly is and simply ignored.
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 7:25 pm
by PorFavor
@tinyclanger2
But be fair - his real aim wasn't to get us out of the EU, but to heal the rifts in the Conservative Party. So, on that level he's been a total . . .
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 7:30 pm
by PorFavor
Brussels rejects Theresa May's plea to break Brexit deadlock
EU response comes as Jean-Claude Juncker claims people in UK are only now finding out about scale of Brexit problems (Guardian)
Conference or crack den? Tories fight over what's left of their stash
Re: Monday 1st October 2018
Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2018 9:01 pm
by frog222
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Jacob Rees-Mogg’s “jam jar” comment is nothing more than “Bongo Bongo Land” bigotry
Racist language at its most basic. –” this is precisely what Jacob Rees-Mogg, the hard-right Brexiteer with a reputation as one of the politest men in politics – all double-breasted jackets, immaculate partings, and genteel vowels – was doing when he called Libya the “People’s Republic of Jam Jar” at Conservative party conference:”
Jacob Rees-Mogg’s “jam jar” comment is nothing more than “Bongo Bongo Land” bigotry
Racist language at its most basic. –” this is precisely what Jacob Rees-Mogg, the hard-right Brexiteer with a reputation as one of the politest men in politics – all double-breasted jackets, immaculate partings, and genteel vowels – was doing when he called Libya the “People’s Republic of Jam Jar” at Conservative party conference:”
