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Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 7:03 am
by refitman
Morning all.

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 7:54 am
by HindleA
Carers UK response to article in Guardian.
On first (failed) application I had to take time off work to attend an interview about work,this stupidity was stopped shortly afterwards.
FWIW I sent my wage slips by post,ten years in the DWP requested wage slips five years preceding they already had,I presume a "cleansing" operation.

https://www.carersuk.org/news-and-campa ... -allowance" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 8:08 am
by HindleA
I am fundamentally opposed to a single payment for a variety of reasons,not least State recognition in own right.The obvious,to me,inevitable consequence ,regardless of intent is withering on the vine at best,disappearing/transformed into "services" most likely.

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 8:14 am
by HindleA
IE some of the perniciousness of UC is inevitable,in any such like combined attempt

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 8:24 am
by HindleA
You repeat information but they are for varying purposes,not keeping it separate is playing with fire IMHO.

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 8:28 am
by HindleA
Sky took some of my tomatoes and survived

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 8:33 am
by frog222
Our old CiF friend Golemxiv (David Malone) is back for a flying visit —

Danske Bank – Who helped them Launder?

” All of which amounts to what? There is nothing criminal or even unusual in various banks having relations with Danske. All banks have relations with each other. But is there a pattern? There is a close connection between Dankse and all three of Austria’s largest banks and both of Italy’s largest , in countries that we might not wholly unfairly suspect of being a possible source of dirty money Is this something regulators might think important? ”

http://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2018/10/dansk ... m-launder/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

David is a great researcher, with contacts . At the height of the GFC his blog-traffic included banks, journos, central banks . He joined up a lot of dots which 'should' have led to prosecutions, but of course did not .

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 8:34 am
by HindleA
We saw a flag which upon investigation was one of "Derbyshire",I had no idea.

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 9:15 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
Bloody hell A I'd just concocted a reply to your latest disappearing post ;-)

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 9:15 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
Morning everyone :-)

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 9:18 am
by HindleA
Morning.

Disappearing post,moi? ;)

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 9:24 am
by HindleA
I say the same bleeding thing in a (different )awy.

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 9:26 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
From last night

https://www.theguardian.com/global/comm ... dent-trump" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

brazilians-bolsonaro-far-right-president-trump

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 9:27 am
by HindleA
Mere mortals write(type),Paul concocts.

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 9:28 am
by HindleA
Every since he stood next to Yoko Ono...

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 9:52 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
HindleA wrote:Every since he stood next to Yoko Ono...
:lol:

It's more that it's a struggle to write per se at 9 in the morning.

Hence it's more of a concoction requiring extreme effort and concentration!

Which makes it all the more galling when original post disappears :twisted:

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 9:57 am
by adam
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
HindleA wrote:Every since he stood next to Yoko Ono...
:lol:

It's more that it's a struggle to write per se at 9 in the morning.

Hence it's more of a concoction requiring extreme effort and concentration!

Which makes it all the more galling when original post disappears :twisted:
We've come to expect your 9 in the morning to not be the same as our 9 in the morning :)

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 10:18 am
by HindleA
Apologies then,but I largely repeat the same thing or variations of,I am sure your response would stand on its own.

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 12:01 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:From last night

https://www.theguardian.com/global/comm ... dent-trump" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

brazilians-bolsonaro-far-right-president-trump
Quite a few Brazilians have been quoted as saying they voted for him because they "wanted a change" and that there is no way he will act on all his extreme statements if he is elected because there will be others around to "moderate" him. Hmmm, without wanting to invoke Godwin's law doesn't that all sound eerily familiar? :?

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 2:18 pm
by adam
But of course

UK fracking rules on earthquakes could be relaxed, says minister
If seismic sensors detect anything above 0.5 magnitude on the Richter scale – far below what people can feel at the surface – the company would have to stop and review its operations. But Perry has told a fellow Tory MP that the monitoring system was “set at an explicitly cautious level … as we gain experience in applying these measures, the trigger levels can be adjusted upwards without compromising the effectiveness of the controls.”
If we set the agreed safety standards we'll have to stop. So let's relax the safety standards.

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 2:24 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Unarguable logic there!

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 2:24 pm
by PorFavor
adam wrote:But of course

UK fracking rules on earthquakes could be relaxed, says minister
If seismic sensors detect anything above 0.5 magnitude on the Richter scale – far below what people can feel at the surface – the company would have to stop and review its operations. But Perry has told a fellow Tory MP that the monitoring system was “set at an explicitly cautious level … as we gain experience in applying these measures, the trigger levels can be adjusted upwards without compromising the effectiveness of the controls.”
If we set the agreed safety standards we'll have to stop. So let's relax the safety standards.

In other words, let's test things to destruction (from a safe distance).

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 3:27 pm
by frog222
from a safe distance = that London :-)

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 4:24 pm
by Willow904
Nicola Strugeon on brexit:
Never has so much been lost by so many to satisfy so few.

Scotland has been treated disgracefully by Tories in government the last few years. All the promises to keep the Union together broken. And taking them out of the EU against their will the biggest betrayal of all. Her anger is palpable and all too justified.

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 4:27 pm
by adam
PorFavor wrote:
adam wrote:But of course

UK fracking rules on earthquakes could be relaxed, says minister
If seismic sensors detect anything above 0.5 magnitude on the Richter scale – far below what people can feel at the surface – the company would have to stop and review its operations. But Perry has told a fellow Tory MP that the monitoring system was “set at an explicitly cautious level … as we gain experience in applying these measures, the trigger levels can be adjusted upwards without compromising the effectiveness of the controls.”
If we set the agreed safety standards we'll have to stop. So let's relax the safety standards.

In other words, let's test things to destruction (from a safe distance).
"These are my standards. If you don't like them I have others."

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 4:56 pm
by frog222
Willow904 wrote:Nicola Strugeon on brexit:
Never has so much been lost by so many to satisfy so few.

Scotland has been treated disgracefully by Tories in government the last few years. All the promises to keep the Union together broken. And taking them out of the EU against their will the biggest betrayal of all. Her anger is palpable and all too justified.
Disenfranchised Brits in Europe are hostages like the EU people in the UK . There is an article about the Landlords Association demanding that those forriners have some sort of ID so that they won't be prosecuted for harbouring "illegals" . Potential 'Windrushing' in sight all round if some cretin gendarme decides I'm not a fit person to be here when I have to renew my carte de séjour next year . After 36 years.

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 6:10 pm
by Willow904
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/arti ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
U.S. Weighs Blocking U.K. From Global Procurement Pact
Looks like we'll find out on Oct 17th if there'll be any WTO rules to "fall back on" or just an abyss come March 29th.

There's a guy on Twitter who's been saying all along that the government have never intended to do a deal, that crashing out has always been the intention. He's quite likeable and was right about some of the Russian interference in Brexit stuff but I'm rather hoping he's off the mark on no deal, because no deal is going to mean no deal with pretty much anyone, anywhere in the world, as far as I can tell. We'll be trade pariahs.

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 6:28 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
That's why I am sceptical, the only people who I think genuinely desire no deal (maybe even no WTO) are asset stripping disaster capitalists.

Who, even now, don't have *that* much sway in our party of government - or at least I very much hope, and believe, not.

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 6:51 pm
by PorFavor
AnatolyKasparov wrote:That's why I am sceptical, the only people who I think genuinely desire no deal (maybe even no WTO) are asset stripping disaster capitalists.
Liam Fox and his American ambitions and contacts? Just popped (uninvited) into my head for some strange reason.

Perhaps not technically asset strippers, but the end result would be the same.

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 9:50 pm
by PorFavor
Kia-ora time?

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Tue 09 Oct, 2018 10:23 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
There has been a LABOUR GAIN in a City Of London byelection 8-)

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Wed 10 Oct, 2018 4:13 am
by citizenJA
Good-morning, everyone

Re: Tuesday 9th October 2018

Posted: Wed 10 Oct, 2018 6:37 am
by frog222
citizenJA wrote:Good-morning, everyone
Someone else calling from China ? :-)