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Remember his saying he wouldn't lose votes even if he shot someone dead on Fifth Avenue ?
There's also yesterday's Nepotism 'Joke' about appointing Ivanka to the UN, when she's already close to the centre of power , through blatant nepotism ...

" Trump’s only true skill is the con; his only fundamental belief is that the United States is the birthright of straight, white, Christian men, and his only real, authentic pleasure is in cruelty. It is that cruelty, and the delight it brings them, that binds his most ardent supporters to him, in shared scorn for those they hate and fear: immigrants, black voters, feminists, and treasonous white men who empathize with any of those who would steal their birthright. The president’s ability to execute that cruelty through word and deed makes them euphoric. It makes them feel good, it makes them feel proud, it makes them feel happy, it makes them feel united. And as long as he makes them feel that way, they will let him get away with anything, no matter what it costs them."

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... nt/572104/

Other countries have their equivalents such as the popular campaigns for 'Strivers' against so-called 'Skivers'. Sarkozy, Macron, and those UK politicians either agreeing with the Daily Mail or plain scared of it .


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Trump's problem is that there aren't enough of those people to guarantee him hegemony. Though the groups opposed to him are often less well organised and motivated.


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PostPosted: Wed 10 Oct, 2018 10:34 am 
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Trump's problem is that there aren't enough of those people to guarantee him hegemony. Though the groups opposed to him are often less well organised and motivated.


There was in interesting point made in one of the articles about all of this recently - that election campaigning in the US at the moment is not about trying to convince people to vote for you, it's about trying to convince your supporters to vote.

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Good morfternoon.

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He [Amyas Morse, head of the National Audit Office] said he thought Chris Grayling’s Department for Transport was being over-confident about its ability to handle the problems posed by Brexit. (Politics Live, Guardian)


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PostPosted: Wed 10 Oct, 2018 11:21 am 
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Now, that's reassuring.


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PM: There are £2.4 billion of unpaid credits under the Labour Party – these are now being made available to people under Universal Credit #PMQs

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DUP apparently threatening to vote against the forthcoming Budget if any of their Brexit "red lines" are crossed.


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Now, that's reassuring.

I wouldn't be reassured even if Morse said he thought Grayling could handle it.

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Oct, 2018 7:39 pm 
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Did anyone else see Sky News around lunchtime (post-PMQs)? Rather a weird outburst by Anna Soubry. She was meant to be answering a question on "Brexit" but insisted on first giving a speech on how terrible was Jeremy Corbyn's performance at PMQs, and wouldn't be stopped. Very strange. Operating under instructions?

By the way, should we now be calling it "Brex" ("Brexit" without end)? Or "Brexi"? "Brex" sounds tough and like the title of an American TV police procedural, but "Brexi" actually sounds quite cuddly.


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adam wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Trump's problem is that there aren't enough of those people to guarantee him hegemony. Though the groups opposed to him are often less well organised and motivated.


There was in interesting point made in one of the articles about all of this recently - that election campaigning in the US at the moment is not about trying to convince people to vote for you, it's about trying to convince your supporters to vote.
Yes; about 58% voter turnout in the last US presidential election


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CCHQ Press Office
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PM: There are £2.4 billion of unpaid credits under the Labour Party – these are now being made available to people under Universal Credit #PMQs

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Did May expand on this? Are accounts credited?


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Did anyone else see Sky News around lunchtime (post-PMQs)? Rather a weird outburst by Anna Soubry. She was meant to be answering a question on "Brexit" but insisted on first giving a speech on how terrible was Jeremy Corbyn's performance at PMQs, and wouldn't be stopped. Very strange. Operating under instructions?

By the way, should we now be calling it "Brex" ("Brexit" without end)? Or "Brexi"? "Brex" sounds tough and like the title of an American TV police procedural, but "Brexi" actually sounds quite cuddly.
Let's call it off


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Senior civil servants are in constant contact with the NAO, and Morse said he had been surprised by the level of secrecy within departments, which may have hindered Brexit preparations.

“Members of the civil service have been using our reports to find out what’s happening on Brexit … if you’re asking people to be behind what you’re doing, you need to make sure they do know what the overall enterprise is,” he said."
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Morse said money spent on no-deal preparations would not have been wasted if the UK secured a Brexit deal. “I think it is very important to not criticise that, unless it has really been careless, because it insured us against a real risk that is still there now.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -nao-chief
You're a master at understatement, Morse


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Hurricane Michael makes landfall: Florida homes fully submerged – live

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It's not a hyperbolic title
I hope Ohso's family is okay


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https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rexit-deal
"Pro-remain Tory MPs will form group to vote down May's Brexit deal"
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A group of remain-backing Tory MPs are plotting to form a rival movement to Jacob Rees-Mogg’s highly effective Eurosceptics, with the aim of voting down Theresa May’s Brexit deal amid concerns that it would wreck the economy.

Which ones are the Jets and which are the Sharks..


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Did we have this?
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GOV.UK Verify overview
GOV.UK Verify is a secure way to prove who you are online.
It makes it safe, quick and easy to access government services like filing your tax or checking the information on your driving licence.
When you use GOV.UK Verify, you don’t need to prove your identity in person or wait for something to arrive in the post.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... vuk-verify
GOV.UK Verify programme: Written statement - HCWS978 - Cabinet Office - 09 October 2018 - Oliver Dowden (Minister for the Implementation )
"I want to update the House on the GOV.UK Verify programme, on the creation of a digital identity market, and the provision of a digital identity service to Government.
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GOV.UK Verify is now sufficiently mature to move to the next phase of its development. The private sector will take responsibility for broadening the usage and application of digital identity in the UK. I can confirm that contracts have been signed with a number of private sector identity providers..."
https://www.parliament.uk/business/publ ... 09/HCWS978
What could possibly go wrong?


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PostPosted: Wed 10 Oct, 2018 9:23 pm 
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PorFavor wrote:
Did anyone else see Sky News around lunchtime (post-PMQs)? Rather a weird outburst by Anna Soubry. She was meant to be answering a question on "Brexit" but insisted on first giving a speech on how terrible was Jeremy Corbyn's performance at PMQs, and wouldn't be stopped. Very strange. Operating under instructions?


Haven't seen it in full, but apparently A Sparrow gave Corbyn a rave review today?


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PostPosted: Wed 10 Oct, 2018 9:28 pm 
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
PorFavor wrote:
Did anyone else see Sky News around lunchtime (post-PMQs)? Rather a weird outburst by Anna Soubry. She was meant to be answering a question on "Brexit" but insisted on first giving a speech on how terrible was Jeremy Corbyn's performance at PMQs, and wouldn't be stopped. Very strange. Operating under instructions?


Haven't seen it in full, but apparently A Sparrow gave Corbyn a rave review today?


Yes - it wasn't half bad. It even appeared as a separate article (distinct from Politics Live) which I stumbled upon, which was a new departure - to me at any rate.


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PostPosted: Wed 10 Oct, 2018 9:33 pm 
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Anyway, thank you cJA for breaking the silence - over seven hours!

(we do get these longeurs notably more often when AH, for whatever reason, isn't about)


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citizenJA wrote:
Did we have this?
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GOV.UK Verify overview
GOV.UK Verify is a secure way to prove who you are online.
It makes it safe, quick and easy to access government services like filing your tax or checking the information on your driving licence.
When you use GOV.UK Verify, you don’t need to prove your identity in person or wait for something to arrive in the post.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... vuk-verify
GOV.UK Verify programme: Written statement - HCWS978 - Cabinet Office - 09 October 2018 - Oliver Dowden (Minister for the Implementation )
"I want to update the House on the GOV.UK Verify programme, on the creation of a digital identity market, and the provision of a digital identity service to Government.
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GOV.UK Verify is now sufficiently mature to move to the next phase of its development. The private sector will take responsibility for broadening the usage and application of digital identity in the UK. I can confirm that contracts have been signed with a number of private sector identity providers..."
https://www.parliament.uk/business/publ ... 09/HCWS978
What could possibly go wrong?


Sounds like it's already gone wrong, and it's next stage of development' is stopping Gvt. funding.

https://www.computerweekly.com/blog/Com ... vuk-Verify
"DCMS plan aims to open up digital identity market - and might kill off Gov.uk Verify"
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The future of Verify is already in question after government watchdog the Infrastructure and Projects Authority recommended it be scrapped, which would mean writing off more than £130m spent so far by GDS rather than throwing more money at a programme that many in Whitehall see as a failure.

https://www.computerweekly.com/blog/Com ... an-for-GDS
"Verify on the verge – what does it mean for GDS?"


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I was beginning to take it personally.

Edited to add - that was a response to AnatolyKasparov.


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What's a "private sector identity provider"?


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Talk of "up to 30" Labour MPs voting for May's "deal" if (as is likely) the party as a whole decides to oppose it. Personally it would surprise me if it was one fifth of that, but we shall see.


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Evening all. Wednesday is always super busy...

Good article by Chris Cook who pointed out that:

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States, debt, nationalisation and money

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45813699

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And Faisal Islam on government gagging road haulage companies from speaking out about the true impact of Brexit.

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/ ... 2808581122

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