Monday 15th October 2018
Posted: Mon 15 Oct, 2018 7:03 am
Morning all.
Child poverty is a major factor, as mentioned in this article, while the G version also mentions chronic respiratory conditions, so air pollution may play a part.Children in England are more likely to die in infancy than their European counterparts and are set to be left further behind on a range of health measures unless the government and NHS act now, a major report warns.
Just saw a clip of Starmer with Victoria Derbyshire earlier, saying choice only between May's deal and no deal was unacceptable.Willow904 wrote:This is interesting.
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It is unacceptable.gilsey wrote:Just saw a clip of Starmer with Victoria Derbyshire earlier, saying choice only between May's deal and no deal was unacceptable.Willow904 wrote:This is interesting.
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Cutting the link between benefits and the cost of living was a hugely damaging move by Osborne but passed by the press with barely a whimper and I still struggle to understand why a much bigger fuss wasn't made over a policy which basically said "we will no longer ensure benefits provide the bare minimum someone needs to live on". It's disgraceful.Josephine Tucker
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The freeze on working-age benefits is the biggest single cut - for years support hasn’t risen with rents or inflation. Over the decade failure to uprate benefits properly will cost the poorest 10% of households over 10% of their income. (link: http://www.cpag.org.uk/sites/default/fi ... 0FINAL.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) cpag.org.uk/sites/default/… (3/18)
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For some people these losses add up to be mind-bendingly large. A disabled single parent with a disabled child, for example, loses on average nearly £10,000 a year in support from tax/benefit reforms this decade. (link: https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/sit ... report.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) equalityhumanrights.com/sites/default/… (8/18)
not necessarily connected, but maybe relevant:Willow904 wrote:This is interesting.
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Probably overwhelmed with emotion over royal baby news.citizenJA wrote:Please wake up, PorFavor.
We are poorly served by our politicians and media.Paul Johnson
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4) None of this is news. We've known about welfare cuts since 2015 (most are implemented) and much about impact of Universal Credit since 2012. Why does it take until now for the flurry of political concern?
Theresa May will make a statement to MPs this afternoon about the Brexit talks. Prime ministers always make Commons statements after EU summits. But to give one two days before a summit is very unusual. Perhaps she intends to lay down some negotiating red lines. The statement will start at 3.30, unless there are urgent questions, in which case it will be delayed for half an hour or more.
I hadn't heard. But now that I have, you're quite right. I'm overwhelmed, etc.tinybgoat wrote:Probably overwhelmed with emotion over royal baby news.citizenJA wrote:Please wake up, PorFavor.
While Labour doesn't want to be seen to be voting for May's brexit, a withdrawal deal agreed by cross-party consensus would be another matter. I doubt May has the ability or authority to achieve this, though, so I suspect it's more a case of "look, we tried".tinybgoat wrote:not necessarily connected, but maybe relevant:Willow904 wrote:This is interesting.
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit- ... today/amp/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Sinn Féin leader to talk Brexit with May and Corbyn today"
Willow904 wrote:While Labour doesn't want to be seen to be voting for May's brexit, a withdrawal deal agreed by cross-party consensus would be another matter. I doubt May has the ability or authority to achieve this, though, so I suspect it's more a case of "look, we tried".tinybgoat wrote:not necessarily connected, but maybe relevant:Willow904 wrote:This is interesting.
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit- ... today/amp/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Sinn Féin leader to talk Brexit with May and Corbyn today"
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... dations-upWhat’s the point of growth if it creates so much misery? (Guardian)
It didn't help that certain "extremely sensible" elements within Labour constantly moaned that it was a waste of time opposing this stuff.gilsey wrote:We are poorly served by our politicians and media.Paul Johnson
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4) None of this is news. We've known about welfare cuts since 2015 (most are implemented) and much about impact of Universal Credit since 2012. Why does it take until now for the flurry of political concern?
edit - better late than never.
Its All Just Going Swimmingly, part 94.adam wrote:Sinn Fein say they will call for a Border Poll immediately if the UK crashes out of the EU without a deal.
It appears to be the rank outsider 'Everything you have read and heard about the weekend is wrong' speech.PorFavor wrote:And she's off . . .
tinybgoat wrote:Probably overwhelmed with emotion over royal baby news.citizenJA wrote:Please wake up, PorFavor.
thank goodness you're herePorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.
Has anyone heard this one before about an Irish sea border being illegal? I thought there were already a small number of border checks between Northern Ireland and mainland Britain, so I assume Rees-Mogg is talking about a more general principle, but is it really a legal problem or just a political issue?Jacob Rees-Mogg, the leading Tory Brexiter, asks why British negotiators ignored the point about having a customs border down the Irish Sea being illegal.
May says her negotiators did not ignore that.
(cJA emphasis)Contingent Liability Notification: Written statement - HCWS1009 - Treasury - 15 October 2018
John Glen (The Economic Secretary to the Treasury)
I can today confirm that I have laid a Treasury Minute informing the House of the contingent liability that HM Treasury has taken on
in authorising the sale of a portfolio of Bradford & Bingley (B&B) and NRAM loans acquired during the financial crisis under the last
Labour Government.
On this occasion, due to the sensitivities surrounding the commercial negotiation of this sale, it has not been possible to notify
Parliament of the particulars of the liability in advance of the sale announcement.
https://www.parliament.uk/business/publ ... 5/HCWS1009" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Well, that would be interesting...Jack Maidment
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Theresa May hints MPs could block no-deal Brexit
“If it were the case at the end of the negotiation process actually it was a no deal... then actually that would come back to this House & then we would see what position this House would take in the circumstances of the time.”
Think it was this:Willow904 wrote:From the G:
Has anyone heard this one before about an Irish sea border being illegal? I thought there were already a small number of border checks between Northern Ireland and mainland Britain, so I assume Rees-Mogg is talking about a more general principle, but is it really a legal problem or just a political issue?Jacob Rees-Mogg, the leading Tory Brexiter, asks why British negotiators ignored the point about having a customs border down the Irish Sea being illegal.
May says her negotiators did not ignore that.
The taxation (cross-border trade) bill, was amended at the behest of Jacob Rees-Mogg’s European Research Group (ERG) to outlaw a customs border in the Irish Sea, and force the government to legislate before it could join a customs union, among other issues.
As the legislation passes through the Lords, peers are unable to amend it, because it has been designated an “aids and supply bill”.
But Smith’s team have received advice from experts in parliamentary procedure that they can help to reopen debate about the amendments, by attaching them to a separate piece of legislation – the trade bill, also currently passing through the Lords.
Quite. Fairly obvious - not to David Cameron, of course.Steve richards @steverichards14
May is twisting and turning in increasingly contorted attempts to keep her government together. Brexit hardliners forced the weak Cameron to hold the referendum when few wanted one. Now May similarly weak. A braver PM wd state there’s only one solution to Irish Question : Remain
3:54 PM - Oct 15, 2018 (Politics Live, Guardian)
She was one of my first year tutors when I was an undergraduate (mumble mumble everyone I know is dying mumble mumble)AnatolyKasparov wrote:Indeed, a sad loss.
tinybgoat wrote:Think it was this:Willow904 wrote:From the G:
Has anyone heard this one before about an Irish sea border being illegal? I thought there were already a small number of border checks between Northern Ireland and mainland Britain, so I assume Rees-Mogg is talking about a more general principle, but is it really a legal problem or just a political issue?Jacob Rees-Mogg, the leading Tory Brexiter, asks why British negotiators ignored the point about having a customs border down the Irish Sea being illegal.
May says her negotiators did not ignore that.
http://belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/nort ... 26116.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
but think there was talk over summer of house of lords finding some way to allow house of commons to reconsider it.
We had one million bags of the best Sligo rags
We had two million barrels of stones
We had three million sides of old blind horses' hides
We had four million barrels of bones
We had five million hogs, had six million dogs
Seven million barrels of porter
We had eight million bales of old nanny goats' tails
On the hold at the Irish Border....
...which is plainly wrong. A backstop is required to ensure there is no hard border in Ireland if an agreement can't be reached that goes far beyond a comprehensive free trade deal, including the kind of absence of product standard and phytosanitary checks that only comes with regulatory alignment and international oversight that in turn only comes with the single market. They're confusing 'free trade' with 'frictionless trade'. Again.A backstop is required to ensure that there is no hard border in Ireland if a comprehensive free trade deal cannot be signed before the end of 2020
Exactly.PorFavor wrote:That sort of laziness\sloppiness helped get us to the position we're in now.