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PostPosted: Sun 21 Oct, 2018 11:39 am 
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Loved this pic from some of our youths …

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We drove up to see uni friends in Durham when the motorway speed limit was 50mph, overtaking everyone in our 2CV .


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PostPosted: Sun 21 Oct, 2018 11:46 am 
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if it's a choice between controlling immigration or staying in the single market to protect the economy the latter should come first. :(


" Immigration" all depends on who they are refering to . This article covers the EU side of it very well

" the biggest deception is this: we could easily have taken back control of our borders already under European Parliament and Council Directive 2004/38/EC, which allows EU member states to repatriate EU nationals after three months if they have not found a job or do not have the means to support themselves. In this month’s debate on the House of Lords EU subcommittee report on EU migration, I challenged the government on why we were not availing ourselves of this directive – and I got no response.

Other countries, such as Belgium, regularly repatriate thousands of individuals based on this directive. If the public knew we had this ability, perhaps the fear that exists would dissipate. Why is the government not using it, and why is the British public not aware of it?
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Remember when TBlair was forcing UK Consulates to dish out visas to all and sundry ?

Must do a snopes check on whether that one-legged Romanian roofer existed :-)


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PostPosted: Sun 21 Oct, 2018 11:51 am 
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Our football cognoscenti should enjoy the thread on today’s extremely good William Keegan —

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... nal-market

THATCHER WOZ RIGHT !

At a recent event at the London School of Economics in honour of the late Peter Sutherland – the man who set up the WTO and whom Pascal Lamy succeeded – the latter could hardly have put it more plainly: “The internal market is the top league. The WTO is the bottom.”

The internal market is usually referred to in the UK as the single market, of which Mrs Thatcher was a passionate supporter, arguing that it would give the UK economy “access to over 300 million of the world’s most prosperous people, bigger than Japan, bigger than the US. It’s not some bureaucrat’s dream – it’s for real.”

The propagation and membership of the internal/single market was considered by former Tory chancellor Kenneth Clarke to be Margaret Thatcher’s greatest achievement.


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PostPosted: Sun 21 Oct, 2018 12:13 pm 
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Still going strong at 80, not totally sold on his line re Brexit but as one of those who called out austerity from the beginning he at least has earned the right to express it :)


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4. And what about the future relationship? Remember that? What Minotaurian solution lurks at the end of this labyrinth? Chequers, the mutant deal liked by the very few? Canada? Norway? Perhaps even the EEA, the narwhal solution?



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Nice. Like a unicorn, only it exists.

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Wedding anniversary today Chesterfield Half past the hospice,one of the beneficiaries,stonking cold but it had to be done.The effort equivalent miniscule comparative on a daily basis for years just to get through the day,sorry the lifestyle choice to be patronised,defamed and misrepresented by politicos.

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Still self debating as to if it was easier or harder given well used routes/familiarity

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And "fuck cobblestones",they aint quaint but a bloody hazard.

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"If you like them so much take the bastards home with you and put a flat surface"

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https://www.gmlaw.org.uk/2018/10/09/we- ... e-year-on/

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... space.html

Former Brexit secretary David Davis launches the 'Battle of Britain' as he threatens No Fly Zone for EU planes in UK airspace

Davis D., Trooper (ret'd), declares War on those EU Forriners .

cont. p92


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" James Cameron, the British consul in Bucharest, was suspended last week for informing Mr Davis that many Romanians were entering Britain on work visas using fake business plans and false documents. Those entering were said to include a one-legged roofer and an electrician with missing fingers. "

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews ... rants.html

Which is not to affirm that he existed, but it is possible !

How many people who limp really have only one leg ?


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frog222 wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6298839/Former-Brexit-secretary-David-Davis-threatens-No-Fly-Zone-EU-planes-UK-airspace.html

Former Brexit secretary David Davis launches the 'Battle of Britain' as he threatens No Fly Zone for EU planes in UK airspace

Davis D., Trooper (ret'd), declares War on those EU Forriners .

cont. p92


Before the referendum, some people actually thought he was one of the more intelligent Tories. I know its a low bar and everything, but still.......


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PostPosted: Sun 21 Oct, 2018 3:10 pm 
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Hehe !

[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1053692855796015105/w-qyZXcE?format=jpg&name=600×314[/img]

Police phalanx, with soft-headed centre ...

https://twitter.com/danhett/status/1053911435565240321


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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... nimum-wage

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Link from Carole Cadwalladr on CLEGG at the G --

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/15/tech ... ocide.html

"" Members of the Myanmar military were the prime operatives behind a systematic campaign on Facebook that stretched back half a decade and that targeted the country’s mostly Muslim Rohingya minority group, the people said. The military exploited Facebook’s wide reach in Myanmar, where it is so broadly used that many of the country’s 18 million internet users confuse the Silicon Valley social media platform with the internet. Human rights groups blame the anti-Rohingya propaganda for inciting murders, rapes and the largest forced human migration in recent history. ""


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Anybody out there?


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Anybody out there?

I'm here, but been watching the rugby and now the F1. Looks like Hamilton will be winning another title today.


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Keir Starmer showed signs of animation in an interview today.


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Keir Starmer showed signs of animation in an interview today.

Good Lord, that's one for SkysGoneOut ! :-)


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Keir Starmer showed signs of animation in an interview today.

Good Lord, that's one for SkysGoneOut ! :-)

Did you see him completely catch Marr off guard? Marr asked if Labour had been speaking to people in Brussels and was obviously unprepared for Sir Keir to say "Yes".

https://twitter.com/Corbynator2/status/ ... 1454578688


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refitman wrote:
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Keir Starmer showed signs of animation in an interview today.

Good Lord, that's one for SkysGoneOut ! :-)

Did you see him completely catch Marr off guard? Marr asked if Labour had been speaking to people in Brussels and was obviously unprepared for Sir Keir to say "Yes".
https://twitter.com/Corbynator2/status/ ... 1454578688

I thought it was common knowledge that Lab were speaking to people in Brussels? It's been in the Press.


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We have a little list of those who voted against having that referendum

https://cf-particle-html.eip.telegraph. ... 913f7.html

Those who voted for it, 'might' not be missed ?

Have any of them expressed regret for their decision ?


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frog222 wrote:
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Good Lord, that's one for SkysGoneOut ! :-)

Did you see him completely catch Marr off guard? Marr asked if Labour had been speaking to people in Brussels and was obviously unprepared for Sir Keir to say "Yes".
https://twitter.com/Corbynator2/status/ ... 1454578688

I thought it was common knowledge that Lab were speaking to people in Brussels? It's been in the Press.


Yes, but we are talking about Marr here - the days when he was up to speed on things are some way in the past. Tbf that is likely in part due to his stroke, but still.


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Mike Gapes currently making a tit of himself on Twitter, attacking Mehdi Hasan.


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Good Lord, that's one for SkysGoneOut ! :-)

Did you see him completely catch Marr off guard? Marr asked if Labour had been speaking to people in Brussels and was obviously unprepared for Sir Keir to say "Yes".
https://twitter.com/Corbynator2/status/ ... 1454578688

I thought it was common knowledge that Lab were speaking to people in Brussels? It's been in the Press.
Yes, but we are talking about Marr here - the days when he was up to speed on things are some way in the past. Tbf that is likely in part due to his stroke, but still. ""
He's on the radio too. Rather obviously trying to do TOO much .


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Been out up that London to a gig and just got back...

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Pro-govt Turkish newspaper Yeni Safak says when Khashoggi entered Saudi consulate, Crown Prince Muhammed bin Salman rang him personally & asked him to go to Riyadh. Khashoggi refused. Within seconds of putting the phone down, his butchering & murder began. Devastating if true.


Yes it would be.

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frog222 wrote:
" James Cameron, the British consul in Bucharest, was suspended last week for informing Mr Davis that many Romanians were entering Britain on work visas using fake business plans and false documents. Those entering were said to include a one-legged roofer and an electrician with missing fingers. "

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews ... rants.html

Which is not to affirm that he existed, but it is possible !

How many people who limp really have only one leg ?


"You're right leg I like, I have nothing against your right leg. Trouble is, neither have you."


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https://sluggerotoole.com/2018/10/21/th ... christmas/
'Slugger' had quote from Sunday Times.
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Frank Field, the Labour veteran, reveals that he will try to force a vote in the Commons. “On Friday I will begin petitioning for a binding motion that would mean if we don’t get a deal the default mode for the government is that we join the EEA and then work towards a Canada trade deal.”

Can't find any other reference to it


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Been out in Hebden Bridge today for a friend's birthday.

What a wonderful place full of really nice and interesting people.

There may be hope for us after all.


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Just us though.

I can't gaurantee the fate of the chavs.


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