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Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 7:04 am
by refitman
Morning all.

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 7:44 am
by citizenJA
Good-morning, everyone

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 7:53 am
by HindleA
A much milder night/morning,no need to go into the freezer to warm up.

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 7:57 am
by HindleA
I suppose I could have gone into one of the microwaves (half a million pounds each) but knowing me I'd probably get stuck in it.

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 8:08 am
by frog222
After two weeks my three-year-old cat has learned to use his cat-flap.

PS Well , not completely ! He came in all by himself this morning, but after breakfast he just went and looked at it, waiting for me to open it and give him a little shove.

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 8:13 am
by frog222
" And when Today presenter John Humphrys intervened to make the government’s case, repeating that an end to arms sales would hit British jobs, the brigadier refused to pander to the ideological tug, though he recognised there would likely be “furious lobbying” by the arms industry."

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/ja ... 10076.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 8:45 am
by HindleA
https://amp.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 9:04 am
by HindleA
https://amp.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 9:06 am
by HindleA
Nearly Legal

I’ve been told that it appears that while legacy benefits will cover ground rent on a lease, Universal Credit expressly excludes it. If this is true, it will be a big problem for some people. Yet another UC housing mess...

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/20 ... aragraph/3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 9:08 am
by HindleA
Simplification is a very bad principle.

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 9:21 am
by PorFavor
HindleA wrote:Simplification is a very bad principle.
Didn't the Conservatives used to criticise anything that smacked of "one size fits all"?

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 9:33 am
by Willow904
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Brexit deal on financial services agreed – report
Tentative agreement reached that would give UK companies access to European markets, Times reports

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 9:34 am
by HindleA
Of course it depends what you mean by it,personally I liked applying for things separately,you could see the purpose and of course under UC one of us would have been denied an existence in own right.

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 9:34 am
by PorFavor
Good morfternoon.

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 9:36 am
by HindleA
"element" tsk

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 9:46 am
by HindleA
Constance demanding a catflap

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 9:47 am
by PorFavor
HindleA wrote:"element" tsk
You missed out a vowel.

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Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 9:48 am
by HindleA
Whole basis is a bag of shite,very much the minority are out of work and expected to work.Barely half,entitled to jobseekers bother.

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 9:54 am
by PorFavor
HindleA wrote:Constance demanding a catflap
I'll have you know that this is a two catflap household. Not that she seems inclined to use either. She's quite capable of using them (in the summer) but, otherwise, demands commissionaire service.

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 9:54 am
by HindleA
Far from trapping people (pensioners trapped?)they attend to differing circumstances,save money and enhance independence,the removal of income under threat increases need of State intervention and otherwise costs.

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 9:55 am
by HindleA
Spare catflap tax now.

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 9:56 am
by HindleA
Sheer profligacy

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 9:58 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
@PF I love Tusk (not Donald)

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 9:58 am
by HindleA
The state Constance gets in I am surprised she remembers what house she lives in.

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 10:01 am
by HindleA
When's her court case?

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 10:02 am
by PorFavor
Tracey Crouch, the sports minister, is not in the Commons for culture question and is reportedly meeting the chief whip, Julian Smith, the Times’ Patrick Kidd reports. According to the Telegraph, she is considering resigning. (Politics Live, Guardian)
I imagine that she's, rightly, pissed off about the fixed odd betting thing.

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 10:03 am
by HindleA
Catflap number two suspiciously gin bottle sized.

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 10:04 am
by PorFavor
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:@PF I love Tusk (not Donald)
Best thing Fleetwood Mac ever did. Not typical of their usual output.

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 10:18 am
by frog222
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... al-cartoon" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Steve Bell, good one ! Norway tells TMay to FO :-)

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 10:26 am
by frog222
PorFavor wrote:
HindleA wrote:Constance demanding a catflap
I'll have you know that this is a two catflap household. Not that she seems inclined to use either. She's quite capable of using them (in the summer) but, otherwise, demands commissionaire service.
After invasion by marauding mogs my eldest now has three cat-flaps. The outside one is a RFID chip-reader and then the cats pass through two more to get to the living quarters and sometimes somebody's nice warm bed . I liked 'commissionaire service' :-)

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 10:51 am
by PorFavor
@frog222

What's the name of your new boss?

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 11:20 am
by AnatolyKasparov
PorFavor wrote:
Tracey Crouch, the sports minister, is not in the Commons for culture question and is reportedly meeting the chief whip, Julian Smith, the Times’ Patrick Kidd reports. According to the Telegraph, she is considering resigning. (Politics Live, Guardian)
I imagine that she's, rightly, pissed off about the fixed odd betting thing.
She has always stuck me as one of the more interesting Tory MPs.

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 11:22 am
by frog222
PorFavor wrote:@frog222 What's the name of your new boss?
After we lost a super much-loved young cat some 25yrs ago, I decided to go for the generic name .
Of course the next one lasted 17 years !

So, a Tory resignation today ? " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 11:53 am
by citizenJA
"Downing Street does not think Tracey Crouch has resigned as a sports minister over fixed odds betting terminals (FOBT)..."

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/bl ... 44d571ece9" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Government isn't sure one of their ministers has resigned

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 12:00 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Well that's reassuring :D

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 12:15 pm
by HindleA
Maybe hedging their bets.

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 12:17 pm
by PorFavor
Arron Banks and other leave campaigners being investigated by National Crime Agency over 'multiple suspected offences' during referendum (Politics Live, Guardian)

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 12:21 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... umbs-table" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 1:19 pm
by Willow904
From the G
Barnier says reports about EU and UK reaching deal on financial services 'misleading'
Michel Barnier, the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator, has taken the unusual step of putting out a statement describing as “misleading” the story that appeared in the print edition of the Times under the headline “May seals Brexit deal on financial services”.

He also makes the point that “equivalence”, which is what the Times says has been negotiated (albeit, it says, in a slightly beefed up form), is a fairly routine EU offer.
Although I must admit when I read the above linked article about this I kind of assumed the so-called "deal" was something that is already available to third countries and thought the story is that we're willing to settle for that, which is why I thought it significant! :)

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 2:03 pm
by PorFavor
Brexit: EU fishing row threatens to snag May’s customs union plan

Key countries unwilling to cede tariff-free access to EU without deal on fishing in British waters (Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... union-plan

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 2:33 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
PorFavor wrote:
Arron Banks and other leave campaigners being investigated by National Crime Agency over 'multiple suspected offences' during referendum (Politics Live, Guardian)
Couldn't happer to a nicer fellow.

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 2:34 pm
by PorFavor
'More and more' Tories turning against fracking, says MP

Lee Rowley says many colleagues have concerns as opposition builds to loosening of planning rules (Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... lee-rowley

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 3:16 pm
by citizenJA
PorFavor wrote:
'More and more' Tories turning against fracking, says MP

Lee Rowley says many colleagues have concerns as opposition builds to loosening of planning rules (Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... lee-rowley
They've discovered it threatens property values

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 3:25 pm
by citizenJA
NCA initiates investigation following Electoral Commission referral

The NCA has initiated an investigation concerning the entities Better for the Country (BFTC) and Leave.EU; as well as Arron Banks, Elizabeth Bilney and other individuals. This follows our acceptance of a referral of material from the Electoral Commission.

Our investigation relates to suspected electoral law offences covered by that referral, as well as any associated offences.

While electoral law offences would not routinely fall within the NCA’s remit, the nature of the necessary inquiries and the potential for offences to have been committed other than under electoral law lead us to consider an NCA investigation appropriate in this instance.

This is now a live investigation, and we are unable to discuss any operational detail.

http://www.nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/n ... n-referral" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(cJA emphasis)

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 3:41 pm
by tinybgoat
frog222 wrote:After two weeks my three-year-old cat has learned to use his cat-flap.

PS Well , not completely ! He came in all by himself this morning, but after breakfast he just went and looked at it, waiting for me to open it and give him a little shove.
I think that's normal behaviour (for cats that is, not me personally) Mrs tbg. says he might be afraid of being ambushed, so will be ok coming in, but going out is more risky, especially if there's a lack of cover.
Our resident princess (the cat) has been happier since some shrubs/flower pots were positioned to the side of the doorway.
Also found same advice on web, so it must be true.
https://www.surepetcare.com/en-gb/advic ... a-cat-flap" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 4:24 pm
by frog222
tinybgoat wrote:
frog222 wrote:After two weeks my three-year-old cat has learned to use his cat-flap.PS Well , not completely ! He came in all by himself this morning, but after breakfast he just went and looked at it, waiting for me to open it and give him a little shove.
I think that's normal behaviour (for cats that is, not me personally) Mrs tbg. says he might be afraid of being ambushed, so will be ok coming in, but going out is more risky, especially if there's a lack of cover.Our resident princess (the cat) has been happier since some shrubs/flower pots were positioned to the side of the doorway. Also found same advice on web, so it must be true. !!
https://www.surepetcare.com/en-gb/advic ... a-cat-flap" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I introduced it to him when he was hungry, so a partially opened flap plus the sight of his biscuits inside, with a bit of a shove, took two weeks . I caught him yesterday looking for a cosy corner to pee, but gave him a talking-to and then he went to the flap, by himself . Opened on demand . He was out for six hours, then came in for lunch and a sleep before nighttime action.
There are fewer farm cats around at the moment but I will think about protecting the exit . Just hoping now that no-one else finds their way in, or it'll be exit-only for nights on this flap, or splashing out £80 for the microchip version.

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 4:34 pm
by frog222
CJA 3.25 " ... the potential for offences to have been committed other than under electoral law "

and there was I wondering WTH was nobody taking a forensic look at his accounts .

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 4:37 pm
by frog222
It must be end of term, he's early !

CRACE : Jeremy Wright turns his inconsiderable mind to defending the indefensible
Culture secretary’s excuses over FOBT reform delays prove too much even for his own party

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... bts-delays" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 5:14 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
PorFavor wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:@PF I love Tusk (not Donald)
Best thing Fleetwood Mac ever did. Not typical of their usual output.
Yes. I guess Buckingham was in the ascendancy. He's a very gifted musician. Sadly Tusk largely bombed and his star started to wane I think and they drifted into more anodyne, though often charming, McVie territory.

I guess it was always going to be hard to follow Rumours.

Re: Thursday 1st November 2018

Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2018 5:16 pm
by frog222
PTO