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Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 7:04 am
by refitman
Morning all.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 7:35 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
Don't read this Por Favor (it's about Brexit)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... heresa-may" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

brexit-talks-remaining-sticking-points-facing-theresa-may

In brief, the EU have said OK if you don't want a NI only backstop that's fine, but if you want a UK-wide backstop you'll have to comply with [insert every EU arrangement that Brexiteers hate]

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 7:56 am
by HindleA
She has gone to Liverpool to buy a cake.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 8:01 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
HindleA wrote:She has gone to Liverpool to buy a cake.
Presumably travelling westbound along the M62 then.*

*Sorry cross-platform in joke ;-)

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 8:05 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
This is a few days old but scroll down and you will be howling with laughter I promise ;-)

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Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 8:08 am
by HindleA
Got joke,anyway it is northbound.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 8:52 am
by HindleA
Still get a "see me after class" feeling on sight of red name.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 8:56 am
by HindleA
https://amp.theguardian.com/society/sho ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 9:01 am
by HindleA
I miss our friend Mary,her w/c was basically a tank which rearranged seating so we could access cafes etc.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 9:02 am
by HindleA
Sometimes when there weren't people sitting in them.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 9:04 am
by HindleA
https://news.sky.com/story/aung-san-suu ... a-11552683" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 10:23 am
by PorFavor
Unemployment up to 4.1%.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 10:23 am
by PorFavor
Good morfternoon.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 10:45 am
by RogerOThornhill
This might change but click on the "unemployment rose" story and see what happens...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 10:54 am
by RogerOThornhill
Interesting conversation with 'er indoors after she went for a meeting yesterday about the CQC inspection they've had and are currently in the middle of reacting to.

Every member of staff has to be told and sign they understand the fire safety rules. No issue with that you might think but they have to do this every day. Every. Single. Day.

Every hour they have to check with every woman they have in the birth centre that they know who their allocated midwife is. And they have to check the visitors book to check who's in there. Every. Single. Hour.

I signed off our school's heath, safety and welfare policy which all staff have to read and sign to say they've read it. But they do this once a year. They do a fire drill one a term.

Our school has around 670 pupils.
My wife's unit has 10 rooms....

I'm all for safety standards but the CQC seem to going a little OTT here.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 11:36 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
Confused, doting and livid Minister who says Brexit Deal is "possible but not definite" (5,9).

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 11:46 am
by AnatolyKasparov
I think we all owe Rafael Behr our sincere thanks for finally explaining what caused last year's "shock" GE result.

Exactly the sort of truth-telling, fearless journalism that the Graun quite rightly asks us to help fund every day.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 11:54 am
by PorFavor
RogerOThornhill wrote:This might change but click on the "unemployment rose" story and see what happens...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
At 11.52am they were still putting the usual BBC gloss on it - ie headlining a completely different story.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 11:57 am
by adam
AnatolyKasparov wrote:I think we all owe Rafael Behr our sincere thanks for finally explaining what caused last year's "shock" GE result.

Exactly the sort of truth-telling, fearless journalism that the Graun quite rightly asks us to help fund every day.
It was Hugo?

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 12:11 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
PorFavor wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:This might change but click on the "unemployment rose" story and see what happens...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
At 11.52am they were still putting the usual BBC gloss on it - ie headlining a completely different story.
And a headline now is '"cautious optimism" over Brexit talks' - what a relief, we are saved!

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 12:13 pm
by PorFavor
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
PorFavor wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:This might change but click on the "unemployment rose" story and see what happens...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
At 11.52am they were still putting the usual BBC gloss on it - ie headlining a completely different story.
And a headline now is '"cautious optimism" over Brexit talks' - what a relief, we are saved!

Speaking of being saved - apparently, there will be no Bisto shortage.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 12:15 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
adam wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:I think we all owe Rafael Behr our sincere thanks for finally explaining what caused last year's "shock" GE result.

Exactly the sort of truth-telling, fearless journalism that the Graun quite rightly asks us to help fund every day.
It was Hugo?
That is probably less outlandish than what he actually wrote tbf.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 12:17 pm
by RogerOThornhill
I see that Andrew Neil is trending and...oh dear...

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Really not a good look...

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 12:27 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Kyrsten Sinema officially won Arizona's vacant Senate seat this morning - at worst it will be 53-47 now.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 12:40 pm
by citizenJA
Good-afternoon, everyone

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 12:43 pm
by citizenJA
@RogerOThornhill
Some of those requirements seem counterproductive and disruptive

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 12:59 pm
by RogerOThornhill
citizenJA wrote:@RogerOThornhill
Some of those requirements seem counterproductive and disruptive
Yes, I thought so. Couldn't believe that they have to do these so often.

I'm sure the CQC uncover things that do need sorting out but like happened to Ofsted, there needs to be a push back against some of their rules.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 1:18 pm
by citizenJA
AnatolyKasparov wrote:I think we all owe Rafael Behr our sincere thanks for finally explaining what caused last year's "shock" GE result.

Exactly the sort of truth-telling, fearless journalism that the Graun quite rightly asks us to help fund every day.
Behr seems genuinely unaware he's engaging in what he's warning against. He doesn't have evidence; he wouldn't have asked the question. Unbelievable.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 1:29 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
I guess they finished spending that £1 billion

Nigel Dodds @NigelDoddsDUP

We will be voting today for the publication of the legal advice on Brexit and the backstop.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 2:01 pm
by adam
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Kyrsten Sinema officially won Arizona's vacant Senate seat this morning - at worst it will be 53-47 now.
The last thing I've seen about Florida is that whilst it does seem there is a significant 'undervote' in one county for the Senate race that might be because the design of the ballot paper 'hid' the senate election at the bottom of the 'general advice' column. It seems a bit strange that one of the two main headline races in the state could so easily be missed by so many people, but if that's what happened then the undervote in Broward isn't because it hasn't been counted but because it was a genuine undervote.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 2:24 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Hmm...
Andrew Neil Retweeted

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There has been some discussion on here regarding a tweet from Andrew Neil about Carole Cadwalladr. He has deleted the tweet and recognises it was inappropriate.
...but I haven't seen an apology from him to Carole Cadwalladr yet.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 2:55 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
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Labour confirms Brexit legal advice motion will be pushed to a vote. Tories abstaining so it will pass.

The motion's wording could mean disclosure of wide-range of docs, but Labour source confirms the party will not push for publication of anything other than final legal advice.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 3:01 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
"Tories abstaining because they knew it would pass" may be more accurate?

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 3:32 pm
by citizenJA
...the text of the Labour motion.
That an humble address be presented to Her Majesty, that she will be graciously pleased to give directions that the following papers be laid before parliament: any legal advice in full, including that provided by the attorney general, on the proposed withdrawal agreement on the terms of the UK’s departure from the European Union including the Northern Ireland backstop and framework for a future relationship between the UK and the European Union.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/bl ... ce090a413d" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 4:06 pm
by citizenJA
Daytime isn't long these days

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 4:34 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rexit-deal" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 4:35 pm
by Willow904
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Cabinet members called in to sign off May's Brexit deal
Emergency meeting to discuss final text of withdrawal document agreed by UK and EU
Here we go.....

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 4:39 pm
by HindleA
Good for us that live a vampire existence(not literally..always)

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 5:41 pm
by frog222
citizenJA wrote:Daytime isn't long these days
I finished feeding the logsplitter after sunset, and now this one is just in front of the house --
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Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 5:47 pm
by HindleA
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 5:51 pm
by citizenJA
Irish authorities investigate UFO sightings by commercial pilots
At least three pilots are thought to have seen the bright objects flying over Ireland....
What you been up to, PorFavor?

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 5:54 pm
by HindleA
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/about ... the-rules/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 5:57 pm
by citizenJA
frog222 wrote:
citizenJA wrote:Daytime isn't long these days
I finished feeding the logsplitter after sunset, and now this one is just in front of the house --
(cJA edit)
Foxes make an unearthly sound in our urban village very late at night. It's like human keening.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 6:01 pm
by citizenJA
It's an uncivilised remnant of law enforcement that should've been done away with long ago, in my opinion.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 6:10 pm
by Willow904
Alfons López Tena #FBPE
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UK and EU negotiators have agreed a Brexit deal:
•UK-wide "backstop" if they fail to negotiate a trade deal without border checks on Ireland
•UK-wide customs union with the EU
•No fixed end-date but "review clause"
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So, it seems the backstop is Labour's Brexit policy.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 6:26 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
Willow904 wrote:
Alfons López Tena #FBPE
@alfonslopeztena
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4s
UK and EU negotiators have agreed a Brexit deal:
•UK-wide "backstop" if they fail to negotiate a trade deal without border checks on Ireland
•UK-wide customs union with the EU
•No fixed end-date but "review clause"
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So, it seems the backstop is Labour's Brexit policy.
:lol:

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 6:37 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
Jessica Elgot
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Chief whip speaking at Downing St gates. Says he is confident cabinet ministers will back “practical” way to deliver Brexit.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 6:39 pm
by Willow904
More here:

https://www.businessinsider.com/uk-euro ... 18-11?IR=T" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
UK and EU negotiators have agreed on a Brexit deal
Rees-Mogg and the ERG aren't happy.
The DUP aren't happy.

meanwhile Corbyn said this:
"Labour has been clear from the beginning that we need a deal to support jobs and the economy - and that guarantees standards and protections.

"If this deal doesn't meet our six tests and work for the whole country, then we will vote against it."
And it won't meet the 6 tests because no deal can meet the 6 tests including Labour's own Brexit policy.

Which adds up to an awful lot of "no"s from people who insist they are committed to Brexit. Go figure.

Brexit blocked by Brexiters.

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 6:39 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
NEW Nigel Dodds , the DUP’s Westminster leader, is absolutely furious: "Our laws will be made in Brussels –not in Westminster or Belfast. That is the fundamental red line.” #Brexit

Twitter

Re: Tuesday 13th November 2018

Posted: Tue 13 Nov, 2018 6:53 pm
by RogerOThornhill
And Boris just gave the game away...
Patrick Wintour

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Without reading the deal, Boris Johnson "It's vassal state stuff. For the first time in 1000 years, this parliament will not have a say over the laws that govern this country. It is utterly unacceptable and it has a kicker - we will not have protected our precious Union".

9:45 AM - 13 Nov 2018
Oh right but...