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Jo Johnson backs bid to force Treasury to reveal no-Brexit forecasts

Ex-minister expected to make first speech from backbenches to support amendment to the finance bill

Jo Johnson, the Conservative MP who resigned as a minister to back a second Brexit referendum, will on Monday throw his weight behind a bid to force the government to publish economic forecasts that compare its deal with remaining in the European Union. (Guardian)

Boris Johnson's unused £320,000 second hand water cannon sold - for £11,025

Three water cannon bought and refurbished for more than £320,000 while Boris Johnson was London Mayor have been sold for just £11,025. As the Press Association reports, the current mayor Sadiq Khan announced today that “we have managed to finally get rid of them” as it was revealed they had been sold to a firm that will dismantle them and export the parts. The machines were bought by Johnson from Germany in 2014 - crucially before their use had been licensed on the UK mainland. The then home secretary, Theresa May, banned their use - rendering them worthless. (Politics Live, Guardian)

PorFavor wrote:Apparently, the ERG is now aiming for "Super Canada".

“This country has voted,” says Hill definitively, although she says it didn’t know what it was voting for. “You’ll destroy all faith in voting in the future. We have to go through with it, whether we made the right decision or not.” Just as oddly, given her concern about the economic implications of Brexit, she’d prefer a no-deal option to what’s on the table.

After talking at length to Raab’s “neglected silent mainstream majority”, I began to appreciate why they might be neglected. What is most notable are the glaring contradictions: May is not up to the job, but she should stick it out. Brexit has been a disaster – and we should get out of Europe as soon as possible. And my personal favourite, that being in the EU has meant, as Hill claims, that the younger generation, including her children, can’t get on the property ladder, followed by the complaint that “property is dropping like a stone round here”.

AnatolyKasparov wrote:The point is, the argument that "if we don't go through with Brexit it will destroy faith in voting" is a powerful one for many (including lots of remain supporters)

Which is why some of us have said from the start that efforts should be focused on getting the softest possible exit from the EU, not trying to reverse/override the referendum result.

Brexit might still not happen, but if so that will be as a result of events largely out of our control. And the Tories need to be made to own what would be a total humiliation for them.

citizenJA wrote:Sounds like May's speech given to Confederation of British Industry (CBI) about her withdrawal agreement didn't reassure them

Spanish Foreign Minister Josep Borrell said his government will need more clarity on the future status of Gibraltar before it’s ready to support the Brexit agreement.

AnatolyKasparov wrote:At least one LibDem MP looks likely to vote with May. It does depend if there is a major Tory rebellion or not, but tbh I find it pretty hard to imagine one *not* happening.

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:IDS, Peter Lilley and Owen Paterson have just gone into Number 10

[BBC Laura K]

Trouble for PM with Iain Duncan Smith, Owen Paterson, Lord Trimble in No 10 for meeting with PM.

They will spell out how they think Irish border issue can resolved with treaty. Feels inevitable she will reject.

Could we see letter of no confidence announced on steps of No 10?

HindleA wrote:Have got into a strange habit of adding vowels for some reeason.

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:

HindleA wrote:Have got into a strange habit of adding vowels for some reeason.

Irritable vowel syndrome?

Heather Stewart

The government is preparing to accept an amendment to the finance bill, tabled by Labour’s Chuka Umunna and the Conservative Anna Soubry, rather than face defeat tonight.

Signed by 11 Conservatives - enough to wipe out Theresa May’s wafer-thin majority - it would oblige the government to publish economic forecasts comparing the impact of its Brexit deal with remaining in the EU. (Politics Live, Guardian)

HindleA wrote:PfY getting far tooo good.

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Corbyn says government’s Brexit agreement ‘locks in uncertainty’ for four years or more

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The ERG isn’t a happy family. One member tells me the letter-wavers look like bullies. “This is all going to fizzle out and Moggy and Baker will get singed.” They added that they could back the deal: “If Cameron offered what May is offering, I would have snapped his hand off.”
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The DUP’s 10 MPs will be abstaining on pretty much every finance bill vote tonight, I understand. This is to put the government on warning that the party is close to ripping up the “confidence and supply” agreement that allows @theresa_may to govern. This is a serious blow to....the PM’s authority. And is all down to the DUP’s pessimism that the PM will amend in any significant way the EU Withdrawal Agreement that it sees as driving a regulatory wedge between Northern Ireland and Great Britain. And if Tory MPs see their industrial action as......increasing the risk of an imminent general election, they will launch that long-planned and delayed coup against her pronto.

The Welsh town of Llanelli – which voted 56.7 per cent to leave the EU in the referendum – has been left reeling after a major manufacturer upped sticks due to Brexit.

Global firm Schaeffler announced this week that it is to close its plant in Llanelli due to uncertainty over Britain’s departure from the European Union.

The closure was described as the “tremor that will lead to the Brexit earthquake” in the Welsh Assembly, with Juergen Ziegler, the company’s regional CEO, saying that the “need to plan for various complex scenarios” due to Brexit had played a part in their decision to leave Wales.

citizenJA wrote:It's cold here now
West Midlands

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Adam Payne
@adampayne26
The ERG isn’t a happy family. One member tells me the letter-wavers look like bullies. “This is all going to fizzle out and Moggy and Baker will get singed.” They added that they could back the deal: “If Cameron offered what May is offering, I would have snapped his hand off.”
3:19 PM · Nov 19, 2018 from London, England · Twitter for iPhone

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I don't know if this is representative or not but I must admit I did struggle to understand Rees-Mogg's latest move. You'd have thought he'd only have made a big, public deal sending in his letter if he knew it would kick the whole shebang off, yet all he's ended up with is a damp squib. Has he been manouvered into a mistake?