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Friday 30th November 2018

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Morning all.
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7.06

What time do you call this?
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HindleA wrote:7.06

What time do you call this?
I had 2 minute lie-in.
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https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... government" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Tory-run Northamptonshire county council bailed out by government
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Tories excel in financial illiteracy,incompetence and a slice of misanthropy to be fair to them.
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The ones that aren't totally corrupt.
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Ooh
Labour Whips
‏@labourwhips
Breaking: @UKLabour has tabled our Amdt to 1. Reject Theresa May’s Brexit deal because it fails to protect jobs and living standards, workers’ rights and environmental standards 2. Oppose No deal, and 3. Keep all options on the table to protect the UK from a no deal scenario
Retweeted immediately by Starmer.
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Liberating the Dis-UK from the straitjacket of the EU's existing trade agreements is dependent on third countries agreeing to separate the UK's quota portion of those from the 27's .

" The US and several other countries – including Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay – have objected. Then last month, Russia blocked the proposal entirely. There can be no progress until Moscow’s complaint is resolved. Our post-Brexit trading future will now be at the long-drawn-out mercy of foreign judges – if they still exist! "

" if they still exist " -- because in the meanwhile Grumpy is trying to break the WTO .

https://infacts.org/3-big-problems-with ... ules-plan/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Ooh
Labour Whips
‏@labourwhips
Breaking: @UKLabour has tabled our Amdt to 1. Reject Theresa May’s Brexit deal because it fails to protect jobs and living standards, workers’ rights and environmental standards 2. Oppose No deal, and 3. Keep all options on the table to protect the UK from a no deal scenario
Retweeted immediately by Starmer.
But......but.....Labour wants a hard Brexit just as much as the Tories!
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https://www.insidehousing.co.uk/news/un ... hows-59300" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Not much happening, then?
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Not much happening, then?
Brexitfatigue AK :-)
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Quite interesting from Peston. I hope he's right

https://www.itv.com/news/2018-11-30/has ... execution/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

has-prime-minister-just-signed-her-own-warrant-of-execution
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frog222 wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Not much happening, then?
Brexitfatigue AK :-)
Well there were 7 by-elections last night!

Drums fingers on table impatiently....
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frog222 wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Not much happening, then?
Brexitfatigue AK :-)
Tell me about it :sleep:
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PM is in Argentina (3 hours behind us), so things should be hotting up about now!
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
frog222 wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Not much happening, then?
Brexitfatigue AK :-)
Well there were 7 by-elections last night!

Drums fingers on table impatiently....
Only one change, but much of interest nonetheless. Excellent result for Labour in marginal Northampton.
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https://www.gov.uk/government/news/chri ... of-workers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Christmas bonus for millions of workers
Workers can claim a rebate on their expenses and get and an early present from HMRC.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
frog222 wrote:]Not much happening, then?
Brexitfatigue AK :-)
Well there were 7 by-elections last night!
Drums fingers on table impatiently....
Only one change, but much of interest nonetheless. Excellent result for Labour in marginal Northampton.
The Tory County Council is in the news yet again, which must have helped to balance out Labour's stance on Brexit ?
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9m ago 15:07
Bradley: Brexit puts Northern Ireland in "unrivalled" global position (Politics Live, Guardian)
As in, "Oh, hasn't anybody already mentioned this? No? Bit of an oversight. Well, now you know."
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frog222 wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
frog222 wrote:]Not much happening, then?
Brexitfatigue AK :-)
Only one change, but much of interest nonetheless. Excellent result for Labour in marginal Northampton.
The Tory County Council is in the news yet again, which must have helped to balance out Labour's stance on Brexit ?
My impression is that the latter is not usually a decisive factor in local elections, though your mileage may vary ;)
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From the Peston

"Although she keeps saying the "meaningful" vote on her deal is all about the nation, and nothing about her own future, that is not sustainable for as long as she argues that her deal is the only deal.

If she truly means what she says, that she has no plan B, she will be gone as PM within hours of losing the vote - to be replaced by someone whose heart is in finding another route to avoid no-deal mayhem."

What do you think ?
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"While all this was going on, there were on-off reports of plans for a televised debate between Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn. Haven’t people had enough of them at PMQs? There should definitely be a referendum to decide on giving them more airtime."

Crace's week : https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... john-crace" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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LT 16.56 Donald Tusk in Argentina : "" If this deal is rejected in the Commons, we are left with, as was already stressed a few weeks ago by prime minister May, an alternative. No deal or no Brexit at all. I want to reassure you that the EU is prepared for every scenario.” "

" No Brexit" ? Perhaps he could go publicly into more detail , on reversing A50 for example.
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We must get over our historic ambivalence to disabled people’s right to a home
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You are also discriminatory/excluding in not having an accessible home of course.
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Admittedly some wheelchairs are narky bastards bit no excuse not to be friendly.
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https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/d ... nts-death/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

DWP softens ‘threatening’ tone of universal credit agreement after claimant’s death


"All heart"
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Whole literature is replete with criminalised intonation and othering.
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Beholden to the taxpayer which you mysteriously aren't.
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No longer a member of the public.
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HindleA wrote:No longer a member of the public.
What's it like?
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The real burdens on the State continue to take the money, regardless of repeatedly failing their commitments.
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"protecting the public purse"
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... egislation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


A ban on combustibles is welcome, but Grenfell families deserve more
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... egislation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


A ban on combustibles is welcome, but Grenfell families deserve more
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Constance doing the tango.
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I keep doubling up(as well as deleting)
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BUSY tonight ! :-)

I'm just hoping that Clive Lewis made a good showing on Any Questions .

I like him, and don't envy the political gymnastics of riding two horses at the same time ....

Ouch !
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Garden ornaments in shed for the winter.The usual arguments of who gets to sit on the rocking chair.
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https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ish-pastim" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Bingo for hipsters? The modern revival of a great British pastime
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Martin Rowson on Theresa May's charm offensive
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I'm really upset by the snow leopard story.
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HS2 rail chief Terry Morgan faces sack over spiralling costs

Morgan, who Chris Grayling described as ‘world class’, set to go after four months in job


The chairman of HS2 is facing the sack less than five months after his appointment because of fears that costs are spiralling out of control.

Sir Terry Morgan is also set to be removed as the chairman of Crossrail, the ambitious line linking east and west London, relieving him of leadership of two of the UK’s highest-profile infrastructure projects, according to a report.

The move would represent an embarrassing setback for the transport secretary, Chris Grayling (Guardian, my emphasis)
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ling-costs

Edited to add link
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Shockingly his gay mam resigns from Cabinet (3,6).
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PorFavor wrote:
9m ago 15:07
Bradley: Brexit puts Northern Ireland in "unrivalled" global position (Politics Live, Guardian)
As in, "Oh, hasn't anybody already mentioned this? No? Bit of an oversight. Well, now you know."
"Bradley mocks Scotland's inferior position post-EU". Possibly not the best idea the government's ever had.
I still believe in a town called Hope
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What the L?
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Further to the Sam Gyimah resignation story -
UK plans sat-nav system to rival EU's Galileo

Britain is planning to build its own space satellite-navigation system after pulling out of the EU's Galileo project, the prime minister has said.

The UK had wanted to stay part of Galileo after Brexit, but the EU said it would be banned from the extra-secure elements of the programme.

UK science minister Sam Gyimah has quit over the row saying it exposed the flaws with Theresa May's Brexit deal. (BBC News website)
I saw some feature on this the other day. Apparently, it's well-nigh an impossible dream.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46407249
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