FlyTheNest

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 7:03 am**

Morning all.

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 9:22 am**

Managed payments to mortgage lenders – information for lenders

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... rs#history" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 9:26 am**

"Available for sponsorship"

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 9:32 am**

https://techcrunch.com/2018/12/04/rudy- ... ernet/amp/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Rudy Giuliani, a Trump cybersecurity adviser, doesn’t understand the internet"
Basically he mistyped a tweet making it appear as an hypertext link, someone noticed, saw the resulting website address wasn't registered, so nabbed it & put an anti trump message on it....

I probably shouldn't mock others struggles with technology. The other day I asked 'Alexa' (aka Amazon Web device thingy) to play a song, which it heard wrongly, resulting in me forgetting 'Alexa''s name & unable to stop resulting racket (apart from pulling plug out).

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 10:20 am**

tinybgoat wrote:https://techcrunch.com/2018/12/04/rudy- ... ernet/amp/
"Rudy Giuliani, a Trump cybersecurity adviser, doesn’t understand the internet"
Basically he mistyped a tweet making it appear as an hypertext link, someone noticed, saw the resulting website address wasn't registered, so nabbed it & put an anti trump message on it....

I probably shouldn't mock others struggles with technology. The other day I asked 'Alexa' (aka Amazon Web device thingy) to play a song, which it heard wrongly, resulting in me forgetting 'Alexa''s name & unable to stop resulting racket (apart from pulling plug out).

I still open cupboard doors and wait for the light to come on (as it does with the 'frig').

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 10:25 am**

HindleA wrote:Relieving the State is presented as taking from the State.

Although I don't agree with it, spending less money on welfare is at least a genuine political choice. Spending more money on providing less welfare, as we are currently seeing, propped up by spurious claims such as less money helps people more than more money and very dubious claims of "fairness" is just pure evil. And the excuses people invent to absolve themselves of this evil get more unconvincing and convoluted the more the holes in their idea of "fairness" grow. Tory voters have no problem with socialism when it's a case of everyone's taxes being used to build flood defences to protect the houses they knowingly bought on flood plains but when a person has the misfortune to become ill their claiming the sickness benefits they thought they were entitled to via their many years of NI contributions is somehow unacceptable. We all vote in our own interests, of course, but wanting more of our taxes spent than would be otherwise on endless assessments to deny extremely ill and disabled people benefits our politicians have already deemed they qualify for doesn't seem to be in anyone's interests but those pocketing the cash for doing the assessments. Seeing how self-evidently obvious this is, it can only be assumed that Tory voters are either very spiteful, very stupid or all work for Atos, Capita, G4S, Maximus etc.

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 11:32 am**

I suppose it will be a bit "after the mayor's show" in the Commons today - anything notable happening (apart from PMQs of course)?

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 11:51 am**

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I declare shenanigans!

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 12:19 pm**

General Election talk at PMQs?

Dreadful woman. Dreadful Party.

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 12:36 pm**

#FBPE types predictably whining that Corbyn went on something other than Brexit at PMQs today.

Its not like parliament isn't discussing the latter non-stop into next week or anything?

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 2:35 pm**

Diane Abbott, the shadow home secretary, is speaking now. She started her speech with a tribute to Tony Benn. (Politics Live, Guardian)

I didn't hear the speech, so know know no more about it than the above. Can anyone else here shed any light, please?

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 3:02 pm**

@Willow

Did I not suggest yesterday that there may not have been any legal advice?!

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 3:10 pm**

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:@Willow

Did I not suggest yesterday that there may not have been any legal advice?!

I'm unashamedly eavesdropping and butting in here.

Yes, you did.

(Well, I am a bit ashamed . . . )

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 3:43 pm**

Grant Shapps is in (at least) two minds . . .

40s ago 15:41

In the Commons Grant Shapps, the former Conservative chairman, told MPs that he was still “contemplating” how to vote on Tuesday and that he was “currently minded to vote against”.
Politics Live, Guardian)

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 4:02 pm**

I've just looked up to find that Sky TV news has gone from covering Theresa May's "Brexit" deal, and is now covering a funeral (George HW Bush's).

No wonder I'm confused.

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 4:17 pm**

Pants graph deconvoluted reveals indecisive pseudonym-using former Minister.

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 4:20 pm**

As usual I didn't watch Newsnight yesterday (same as almost everybody else, then) but from what I have gathered it was something of a new low even for them?

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 4:23 pm**

AnatolyKasparov wrote:As usual I didn't watch Newsnight yesterday (same as almost everybody else, then) but from what I have gathered it was something of a new low even for them?

Why?

(I didn't watch it, either.)

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 4:34 pm**

A combination of dumbed down gimmicks and an underlying narrative close to "actually, the PM had something of a triumph today"

(if you want to know more, social media is your friend)

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 4:40 pm**

HindleA wrote:"Available for sponsorship"

this ad on a sign stuck on the village green
yes, I'm serious

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 4:40 pm**

Good-afternoon, everyone

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 4:51 pm**

I'm unable to to give you information regarding Abbott's speech today, PorFavor. I didn't watch or see it.

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 5:11 pm**

Mr citizen and I saw Peterloo recently
It's an important film; it's timely

Leigh's films are exceptionally fine and Peterloo is good. It's not Mike Leigh's best work, in my opinion.

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 5:17 pm**

Looked like more than eighteen or twenty dead on the ground following the carnage scene

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 5:35 pm**

The film didn't seem historical to me. The divide between rich and not rich remains. That hasn't changed. The desperation of regular working class people living through bad government legislation and policy remains.

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 6:22 pm**

PorFavor wrote:
Diane Abbott, the shadow home secretary, is speaking now. She started her speech with a tribute to Tony Benn. (Politics Live, Guardian)
I didn't hear the speech, so know know no more about it than the above. Can anyone else here shed any light, please?

The link below has Abbott's contributions, she's regularly interrupted and the Hansard thread is an interesting read. I attempted to form a summary but couldn't do it justice.

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2 ... opeanUnion(Withdrawal" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 7:04 pm**

Unite leader warns Labour against backing second EU referendum

The Unite general secretary, Len McCluskey, has privately told Labour MPs the party should have severe reservations about backing a second referendum on leaving the European Union, write the Guardian’s Jessica Elgot and Rajeev Syal (Politics Live, Guardian)

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 7:29 pm**

AnatolyKasparov wrote:A combination of dumbed down gimmicks and an underlying narrative close to "actually, the PM had something of a triumph today"

(if you want to know more, social media is your friend)

Apparently, according to (t)Watt, it was a "rather good day in the office".

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Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 8:44 pm**

'Parliamentary elections every year'
Yes, please. It'll concentrate representatives' hearts and minds. Any government doing right by the electorate gets returned.

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 8:48 pm**

Mr citizen expressed concern about possible disruption caused by high annual representative turnover
Said it like it's a bad thing
Disruption by unaccountable entrenched bastards causes greater worries

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 9:13 pm**

I disagree with the Chartists ,I am with Mr Citizen on this one for numerous reasons.

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 9:20 pm**

Diane Abbott's contributions in the House today emphasised decades of security infrastructure cooperatively integrated will leave UK security compromised by the act of leaving the EU. She didn't say it like that. The UK's treaties with EU nations as an EU nation will be gone; there's nothing in May's EU Withdrawal notes about this and more. J Hunt just assured the House the UK will be secure. I'm not reassured.

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 9:21 pm**

HindleA wrote:I disagree with the Chartists ,I am with Mr Citizen on this one for numerous reasons.

Please explain why.

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 10:15 pm**

I've thought about it. Annual Parliamentary elections. Other electoral and press reform would have to exist. A string of bastards in every year otherwise.

Posted: **Wed 05 Dec, 2018 10:49 pm**

Goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA

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