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Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 7:05 am
by refitman
Morning all.

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 7:09 am
by citizenJA
Good-morning, everyone

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 7:33 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/ ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Guardian’s Amelia Gentleman named journalist of the year

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 7:34 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... d-migrants" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Cyprus is saturated' - burgeoning migrant crisis grips island

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 7:38 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... aid-carers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


"This is absolutely not a replacement for any care provision."


Hmm

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 7:40 am
by HindleA
They relentless endeavoured such things always with the same response,second word,off.

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 7:40 am
by tinybgoat
"The BBC and Jeremy Corbyn"
https://waitingfortax.com/2018/03/19/th ... my-corbyn/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
b:1/Just remembered I have a written message from a senior BBC bod explaining (unambiguously) that the BBC does code negative messages about Corbyn into its imagery.2,93111:38 AM - Mar 18, 2018
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The Editor of Live Political Programmes at the BBC, @RobBurl , is now trolling me by suggesting I made up my assertion I have messages from a senior BBC journalist saying they do code negative imagery about Corbyn into their broadcasts. 1/3
7:34 AM - 10 Dec 2018
May get interesting.

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 7:51 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
Sour banyan shockingly prefers leaving the EU to a Corbyn premiership (4,6).

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 7:54 am
by HindleA
Easily decipherable code.In verbal terms the Today business bod was trying to get a business guy to agree with May about Corbyn repeatedly,all he got was "don't like uncertainty"

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 7:56 am
by HindleA
A round of applause for PfY.

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 8:00 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
HindleA wrote:Easily decipherable code.In verbal terms the Today business bod was trying to get a business guy to agree with May about Corbyn repeatedly,all he got was "don't like uncertainty"
Yes I noticed the CBI were distinctly unimpressed yesterday. And no surprise. Having been dragged (unwillingly I imagine) into supporting May's deal because it offered much needed stability....

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 8:52 am
by HindleA
Press release

£40 million personalised support package for long-term unemployed disabled people launched

Tailored support to help them overcome any personal barriers

"Personal Independence Payment covers some of the extra costs caused by long term disability or ill-health.

New guidance will ensure that people who are awarded the highest level of support under Personal Independence Payment will receive an ongoing award, with a ‘light touch’ review every 10 years so they no longer have to have their conditions re-examined."

" party of benefits"

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 8:54 am
by citizenJA
HindleA wrote:A round of applause for PfY.
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
:rock:

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 8:57 am
by HindleA
Where the image created by anagram is apt.

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 9:00 am
by HindleA
What happened to the body healing?

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 9:02 am
by HindleA
Certainly would have to be light touch.

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 9:02 am
by Willow904
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... heresa-may" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A no-deal Brexit would be the deranged action of a rogue state

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 9:03 am
by HindleA
I have a tendency to (bad) black humour,apologies for levity.

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 9:03 am
by citizenJA
HindleA wrote:Easily decipherable code.In verbal terms the Today business bod was trying to get a business guy to agree with May about Corbyn repeatedly,all he got was "don't like uncertainty"
Thank you for pointing this out. I get sick to death of this manipulating crap.

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 9:08 am
by HindleA
The juxtaposition,no wonder they get confused.

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 9:10 am
by HindleA
675 million to gradually return

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 9:13 am
by PorFavor
Good morfternoon.

Andrea Leadsom on Sky TV news saying that Theresa May has gone to Europe to seek assurances and "will return once she has got those assurances". Does that mean she's not coming back, then?




Edited - typo

(Off to a flying start . . .)




Edited (again) - typo, which was drawn to my attention by a well-wisher . . .

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 9:15 am
by citizenJA
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Sour banyan shockingly prefers leaving the EU to a Corbyn premiership (4,6).
Corbyn's contributions in the House yesterday were good. Reading it over in Hansard, I found him coherent; many other opposition MPs were too. May was a catastrophe. So were her Tory colleagues. I don't watch or listen to these debates, not usually. Corbyn said simply and forcefully said government needed stepping aside as they are too dysfunctional.

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 9:24 am
by HindleA
Removal of accounting of extra costs not accounted for otherwise(ie.PIP is not an out of work benefit-the "some" is necessary in any case)They've revealed themselves in utilising the (not) double accounting ruse.

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 9:29 am
by HindleA
Eurpoe?

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 9:31 am
by HindleA
Even I can work than one out.It's catching.

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 9:36 am
by PorFavor
HindleA wrote:Eurpoe?
Missed that one! Will attend to it immediately.

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 9:38 am
by HindleA
Constance doing her circuit training.

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 9:47 am
by HindleA
Actually more lax,previously all reviewable at any time.

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 10:20 am
by HindleA
[youtube]g3UVR50WEBM[/youtube]

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 10:34 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/society/sho ... SApp_Other" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Disabled saviour’ videos aren’t heartwarming – they’re patronising and disturbing

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 10:38 am
by HindleA
The DWP should be nowhere near employment support

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 10:41 am
by HindleA
That's the fundamental problem,the basics "contingent"

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 10:44 am
by HindleA
IMHO

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 10:44 am
by Lost Soul
Willow904 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... heresa-may
A no-deal Brexit would be the deranged action of a rogue state
Hi Willow

Ashcroft's latest Poll is interesting too ( not just the usually presented edited highlights ) :

http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2018/12/wh ... deal-poll/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 10:55 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... SApp_Other" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Bohemian private school in area of child poverty divides residents

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 10:56 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
Lost Soul wrote:
Willow904 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... heresa-may
A no-deal Brexit would be the deranged action of a rogue state
Hi Willow

Ashcroft's latest Poll is interesting too ( not just the usually presented edited highlights ) :

http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2018/12/wh ... deal-poll/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks

With nosepeg on, well worth a read.

The 40% who feel no better or worse informed than 2016 is quite a shocker!

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 11:03 am
by HindleA
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/li ... e-15533039" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


This derelict part of Liverpool could get one of the UK's LARGEST WATER PARKS


Remember the international.garden festival(s)?

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 11:05 am
by HindleA
I went,living there at the time,I was a baby of course.

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 11:19 am
by Lost Soul
Paul Mason

'Labour’s conference left “all options on the table”, including a second referendum and a remain vote. Nowhere in its conference motion on Brexit did it say a second referendum would be a “betrayal”. That’s the language of our opponents. We should counter it with a narrative of hope.'

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... paul-mason" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 11:27 am
by adam
A lot of people seem furious with Labour for not making a pointless grandstanding gesture that would certainly fail.

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 11:33 am
by PorFavor
Labour Whips

@labourwhips

Breaking: Very Important UQ granted at 1230 to @YvetteCooperMP to ask Geoffrey Cox QC to make a statement on the Government's duty under section 13 of the European Union (withdrawal) act 2018 if no deal is reached by 21 January 2019.
10:53 AM - Dec 11, 2018 (Politics Live, Guardian)

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 11:54 am
by AnatolyKasparov
adam wrote:A lot of people seem furious with Labour for not making a pointless grandstanding gesture that would certainly fail.
Normal day, then?

Special booby prize for the likes of Chuka for openly admitting that a VONC right now would fail, and that they actually *want* that to happen.

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 12:11 pm
by PorFavor
Ashley Cowburn
‏Verified account @ashcowburn

Ouch. Philip Hammond tells John McDonnell to vote for Brexit deal on the table at the moment. Speaker Bercow interrupts: "It's quite difficult to vote for something if there isn't a vote"
3:49 am - 11 Dec 2018 (Politics Live, Guardian)

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 12:16 pm
by Willow904
Lost Soul wrote:
Willow904 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... heresa-may
A no-deal Brexit would be the deranged action of a rogue state
Hi Willow

Ashcroft's latest Poll is interesting too ( not just the usually presented edited highlights ) :

http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2018/12/wh ... deal-poll/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks Lost Soul. It's interesting and worrying in equal measure. I'd type more but I'm actually in town doing Christmas shopping - a rarity for me, doing real shops rather than online!

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 12:33 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
PorFavor wrote:
Ashley Cowburn
‏Verified account @ashcowburn

Ouch. Philip Hammond tells John McDonnell to vote for Brexit deal on the table at the moment. Speaker Bercow interrupts: "It's quite difficult to vote for something if there isn't a vote"
3:49 am - 11 Dec 2018 (Politics Live, Guardian)
Nice one!

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 12:43 pm
by PorFavor
I think that the Parliamentary Christmas recess really should be shortened. Even if only for the look of the thing.

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 12:45 pm
by PorFavor
32s ago 12:43
John Major calls for article 50 to be revoked immediately

Lisa O'Carroll (Politics Live, Guardian)

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 1:30 pm
by Lost Soul
If you can bear it...

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Brexit: MPs hold emergency debate on meaningful vote – watch live Guardian News

Re: Tuesday 11th December 2018

Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2018 1:34 pm
by PorFavor
4m ago 13:28

Labour’s Karen Buck asks why MPs should believe him about there being a vote before 21 January when the government did not keep its word on the vote this week.

Walker says the government wants to abide by the spirit and the letter of the law.
"Wants to" or makes a binding undertaking to do so?


Edited to add -

PTO