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Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sat 29 Dec, 2018 7:59 pm
by tinyclanger2
Evening.

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sat 29 Dec, 2018 8:33 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
tinyclanger2 wrote:Evening.
Evening :-)

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sat 29 Dec, 2018 11:13 pm
by gilsey
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:This has really annoyed me, from Matthew Parris, praised by Ian Birrell and Steve Richards.
MPs must be brave and tell us we were wrong
It's in the Times so I can't read it.

Misinformed and manipulated perhaps, but to say the electorate was wrong shows these guys understand nothing at all.
MPs must be brave and tell us they were wrong would be more like it.

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sat 29 Dec, 2018 11:22 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Well this place has been a bit busier than yesterday, good to see ;)

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sat 29 Dec, 2018 11:29 pm
by gilsey
I’m increasingly convinced that there will be a second referendum. The Sherlock Holmes principle is always a good one: you eliminate the impossible and whatever remains, however improbable, must be the solution. The second referendum has always been highly improbable but everything else is looking impossible. There’s just no deal that the Europeans can do that can get through the House of Commons. And no deal is so catastrophic that you have to hope that no sane parliament would allow it. So the one thing left is a second referendum.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/ ... ationalism" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 1:56 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/201 ... es-aged-93" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radi ... d-obituary" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radi ... medy-giant" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 4:19 am
by HindleA
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/comm ... ocal-trees" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


News story

Communities to have greater say in protecting local trees

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 4:20 am
by HindleA
"local"

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 4:21 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... iversities" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



Exam reforms boost private pupils in race for universities

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 4:22 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... y-violence" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Bangladesh election: polls open after campaign marred by violence

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 7:31 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... protesters" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 7:35 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... in-in-2019" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 7:39 am
by HindleA
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... e-together" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8281168.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(Usual not just elderly/nonsense about charging regime caveat applies)

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 7:50 am
by HindleA
[youtube]bW5M5xljdCI[/youtube]

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 8:22 am
by RogerOThornhill
HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... iversities



Exam reforms boost private pupils in race for universities
Policy incoherence? I'm shocked etc...

The irony is of course that the DfE and its cheerleaders are all for schools having more freedom as it is supposed to make schools better...but let them choose what exams their pupils sit? No way...

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 9:18 am
by citizenJA
The furore over the Queen’s Christmas message was so much and fury
Queen Elizabeth II poses with the offending instrument in the background after recording her Christmas message at Buckingham Palace.

- Catherine Bennett
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... of-windsor" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Anyone make anything out of Bennett's article? I had little success figuring out the point of her piece.

A wealthy and powerful individual lecturing the nation on unity while seated in opulence while others scramble for a living on a daily basis
We are rudderless, without sane leadership from democratically accountable representation

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 9:24 am
by citizenJA
The quote at the end of her piece wasn't made regarding the article's topic and she's fundamentally misunderstood its meaning

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 9:57 am
by HindleA
I'm outraged that Republicans,regardless of Corbyn sympathies or not watched and she wasn't dressed in rags,toothless and in a cave.

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 10:05 am
by HindleA
Farts like a trooper,I am reliably informed

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 10:06 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
Mix loaf mixed says Brexit may not happen (4,3).

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 10:15 am
by tinyclanger2
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... exit-views" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
New BBC Radio 4 series shows bewilderment at Brexit outside the UK
From Friday - sorry if we've already had it

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 10:16 am
by tinyclanger2
Neil MacGregor wrote:“Because the rest of the world sees the EU as such a positive force, our language about it as the enemy, our comparing it with Nazi Germany, is not only seen as incomprehensible but also unacceptable,” he said.

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 10:19 am
by tinyclanger2
“Following the debate from Germany, it became so obvious that what was being said in the UK was incomprehensible. Either it was historically untrue or else it was a misreading of the EU as it actually is,” he said.

“There is growing bewilderment at the language used, at the desire to cast the EU as the enemy, which brave little Britain alone was resisting.”
"we" are collectively somewhat deluded. it's the island at the edge of the world thing I suppose.

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 10:22 am
by tinyclanger2
will be a bit sad on Wednesday when I have to put the festive antlers away for a year.
still time goes so fast these days that I'll be getting them out again in what feels like a week or so.

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 10:25 am
by tinyclanger2
The decision to hold a referendum on EU membership was seen as a perversion of parliamentary democracy, said MacGregor, especially in Germany.
Quite

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 10:27 am
by tinyclanger2
“One of the things that bewilders them is that a democracy that had so invested in being absolutely clear that authority rests in parliament should surrender and confuse that in a referendum. That seemed to them to be an abandonment of the most important political achievement of the United Kingdom.”

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 10:27 am
by HindleA
Golden antlers

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 10:28 am
by tinyclanger2
i think of them more as beige.

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 10:29 am
by HindleA
Won't take me long to put the three cards away(to be recycled next year)

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 10:30 am
by HindleA
The fact that a lawnmowing tortoise gets more xmas cards than me,may be indicative

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 10:31 am
by tinyclanger2
Comments from our experts please:
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... iversities" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Tory education reforms are giving private school pupils a huge additional advantage in the hunt for university places and jobs by allowing them to sit easier GCSEs than the more rigorous exams that are being forced upon state schools, new official figures suggest.

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 10:33 am
by HindleA
See above or below

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 10:33 am
by HindleA
RogerOThornhill wrote:
HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... iversities



Exam reforms boost private pupils in race for universities
Policy incoherence? I'm shocked etc...

The irony is of course that the DfE and its cheerleaders are all for schools having more freedom as it is supposed to make schools better...but let them choose what exams their pupils sit? No way...

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 10:36 am
by HindleA
[youtube]KXMOURHEMpY[/youtube]

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 10:42 am
by AnatolyKasparov
citizenJA wrote:
The furore over the Queen’s Christmas message was so much and fury
Queen Elizabeth II poses with the offending instrument in the background after recording her Christmas message at Buckingham Palace.

- Catherine Bennett
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... of-windsor" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Anyone make anything out of Bennett's article? I had little success figuring out the point of her piece.
The point was to sneer at those not as "clever" and knowing as her. As is usual with her output.

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 10:44 am
by tinyclanger2
Ah thanks HA - missed that.

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 10:49 am
by tinyclanger2
Too much speed reading. I can hardly read properly now.

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 10:50 am
by tinyclanger2
Like typing eradicating my ability to write legibly by hand.

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 11:27 am
by AnatolyKasparov
As somebody whose handwriting has always been hideously bad (*) this is one respect in which online communication has been a genuine godsend.

(* a "high" point being when I was asked to dictate my answers to one of my degree papers onto a tape, as the examiners couldn't actually read it)

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 11:46 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... ars-rising" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Congolese finally go to the polls amid fears over fraud

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 12:09 pm
by citizenJA
That family lets people die homeless
It's a choice they make
Hypocritical, spoiled and willingly perpetuating a sick, dysfunctional hierarchical class system

The monarch and her family could use their resources preventing homelessness and early mortality, giving every one of their compatriots the finest education, healthcare and housing. They could choose helping create a society where everyone fulfills their potential and contributes as equals regardless of ability variation. No human being is more or less than another human being. People like working, participating, contributing their best.

There is nothing stopping powerful people from giving power to everyone
Cooperate, share, love, help, get helped, teach and learn from others
It's wasteful, shameful and wicked letting people fall and pass away when preventing tragedy is available but withheld

The word comrade means people sharing room

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 12:34 pm
by citizenJA
...£40,668-per year Eton College...
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... iversities" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Price tags on education, access to justice, healthcare, all the things necessary sustaining life got a price tag
if people can't pay they don't get what they need
we can do better than this

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 12:43 pm
by citizenJA
If we have to pay for justice, none of us is getting any

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 2:43 pm
by HindleA
I preferred Stanley Baxter as Queen

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 2:53 pm
by HindleA
Still doing his "playhouse" occasionally on R4/4xtra.

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 3:02 pm
by HindleA
I once literally (sorry PF) bumped into him in Glasgow.

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 3:27 pm
by HindleA
Yes paying for just ice is ridiculous.

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 3:32 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
HindleA wrote:I preferred Stanley Baxter as Queen
Still alive at age 92 according to Wikipedia, which did slightly surprise me.

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 3:44 pm
by HindleA
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 04081.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Saturday 29th & Sunday 30th December 2018

Posted: Sun 30 Dec, 2018 3:52 pm
by HindleA
After Miss Marple (with June Whitfield) mention yesterday,not knowing she had died,I hope this hasn't been repeated.



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